Was Noah's Flood 15 cubits above the mountains, or just 15 cubits & above the hills?

[Herman Hedning]

Dear Herman, God tells us that Adam was formed on the 3rd Day (Gen. 2:4-7) and that every other living creature was made the 5th Day. (Gen. 1:21) This means that Adam did NOT evolve from any other living creature since there were NONE. Humans are FIRST made. That is WHY we are destined to have dominion over EVERY other living creature. Gen. 1:28

Can you give us a better reference than God? Go ahead and try. We need a good laugh.

Plenty of creation myths around. Have a look at this partial list: List of creation myths - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Note that Genesis is included among these myths. There is nothing that sets it apart from, for instance, the Zulu myth of Unkulunkulu.

Always ready spread some mirth around.

 

[Loudmouth]

Dear Cab, Can you tell us WHY scientists haven't noticed that there was NO human agriculture, homebuilding, city building, nor ANY other human traits demonstrated until some 10k years ago? Have they all been asleep? Why have they claimed we've been human for hundreds of thousands of years, but we didn't have enough intelligence to grow some food? Adam farmed with NO evolution.

Most of these men have been too busy trying to prove God wrong, so they have forgotten who they are, in comparison to God. They THINK they are smarter than God, but one of the best things about God is that He is so patient, and so smart.

God set a Trap, a Snare, which totally destroys the False TOE. He set this trap 10k years ago with the Flood. The "know it all" scientists have been caught in this trap by force feeding their false views to our children in Public Schools. Get ready for the coming battle between Christians and those who would poison the minds of our children.

In Love,
Aman

Do you really think repeating the same bare assertions is going to be convincing?

 

[Aman777]

Old:>>It's stlll here, in the oceans.

Dear Old, The oceans have been here much longer than 4k years ago, when the supposed Global Flood took place. The answer is that our world was not destroyed in the Flood. It was Adam's world. Noah appeared in the mountains of Ararat when the firmament of the First Earth was "clean dissolved" in the Flood. Isaiah 24:17-20

I didn't say the ark was above Mt. Everest. It was above the highest mountains mentioned; the mountains of Ararat (however, all the 'high hills' under the heaven were covered). I'm guessing that was all the water needed to drown all the air breathing critters.

Not quite. Here's the Scripture:

Gen. 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

The above verse tells us that the mountains were covered with 22 1/2 feet of water. IOW, The first Earth was NOT like our Earth. It did NOT have mountains 29k feet high. The mountains of the first Earth were covered with 22 1/2 feet of water. Amen?

The account says that it took 5 months for the water to abate from the time Noah landed on the mountains. This indicates that that was roughly the depth of the flood.

Not so. The Ark "rested" on the mountains of Ararat on the 150th Day AFTER the Flood began. Noah could have left then, but he was afraid. He had floated around for 5 months or 150 days. He waited another 5 months after he had landed, before he went outside and saw that the Earth was dry. He went back into the Ark for another 2 months, and only came out when God commanded him to come out.

Gimme dat old time religion.

Depends. Religion is man's attempt to know God. Christianity is God in you. Religion called for the Crucifixion of Jesus.

When that truth is revealed I'll believe it. Until then the flood story stands.

The Flood story is God's Truth. Not a jot nor tittle of that story will ever be refuted. It is just that most people have NO idea what it is teaching.

In Love,
Aman

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Oh, so plants and fish didn't die? Was the flood water salty or fresh?

Every 'living substance' perished.

 

[CabVet]

Every 'living substance' perished.

But that's not what you said before, is it?

I didn't say the ark was above Mt. Everest. It was above the highest mountains mentioned; the mountains of Ararat (however, all the 'high hills' under the heaven were covered). I'm guessing that was all the water needed to drown all the air breathing critters.

So, which is it? Every "living substance" or "all the air breathing critters"?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Dear Old, The oceans have been here much longer than 4k years ago, when the supposed Global Flood took place. The answer is that our world was not destroyed in the Flood. It was Adam's world. Noah appeared in the mountains of Ararat when the firmament of the First Earth was "clean dissolved" in the Flood. Isaiah 24:17-20

Isaiah 24 describes a future destruction.

Not quite. Here's the Scripture:

Gen. 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

But it doesn't say 'all' the mountains as it does the 'high hills', it says 'the' mountains.

The above verse tells us that the mountains were covered with 22 1/2 feet of water. IOW, The first Earth was NOT like our Earth. It did NOT have mountains 29k feet high. The mountains of the first Earth were covered with 22 1/2 feet of water. Amen?

All the mountains on earth are a result of the rebellion of Lucifer, perhaps billions of years before Genesis One.

 

[CabVet]

All the mountains on earth are a result of the rebellion of Lucifer, perhaps billions of years before Genesis One.

Let me see if I got this right, the mountains on earth are a result of something that happened billions of years before the earth was created?

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

 

[Aman777]

Isaiah 24 describes a future destruction.

Dear old, Not quite. You probably missed the Fact that Genesis 24 speaks of the "Snare." The "future" destruction was when God destroyed the world of Adam.

17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth. 18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare:

Did you see the snare? It describes what the Snare or trap is:

for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake. 19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. 20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

Also, the Flood cannot be a future happening since God told Noah:

Gen. 9:11 And I will establish my covenant with you, neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

Remember that NEVER AGAIN will a Flood destroy the Earth.

The Flood is the Snare which catches men and traps them in their own foolish words. In the last days, Scoffers (Evols) will be caught in the biggest mistake in scientific history. They have falsely assumed that the present Earth is the first, when in fact, it's the second world which God made. The first world was made the 2nd Day. Genesis 1:6-8

Our world and the third heaven were made at the beginning of the 3rd day, the SAME day the Earth was made, but before the plants grew. The 3rd Day is the Day the Earth was made and the Day the plants grew.

But it doesn't say 'all' the mountains as it does the 'high hills', it says 'the' mountains.

What difference does it make? When the Flood reached 15 cubits, the mountains or high hills were covered in water. This reveals that the Earth of Adam was NOT like our Earth, and it was much, much, smaller. The entire first heaven later showed up in the mountains of Ararat, in the largest Lake in Turkey.

All the mountains on earth are a result of the rebellion of Lucifer, perhaps billions of years before Genesis One.

Sure, and Batman is sitting there talking to you. Isn't he? Thanks for the humor. I've heard the Gap Theory before. It's not true, Scripturally.

In Love,
Aman

 

[OldWiseGuy]

But that's not what you said before, is it?



So, which is it? Every "living substance" or "all the air breathing critters"?

Both.

Genesis 7:22
"All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died."

Genesis 7:23
"And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark."

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Let me see if I got this right, the mountains on earth are a result of something that happened billions of years before the earth was created?

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Check out GAP theory.

 

[Lethe]

Check out GAP theory.

Check out geology, physics, biology, astronomy.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Dear old, Not quite. You probably missed the Fact that (Isaiah) 24 speaks of the "Snare." The "future" destruction was when God destroyed the world of Adam.

You really have to read the whole chapter (Isaiah 24). It refers to the end time.

The observable age of the earth supports GAP theory.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Check out geology, physics, biology, astronomy.

 

[CabVet]

The observable age of the earth supports GAP theory.

The observable age of the earth supports.... the age of the earth.

GAP "theory" was built around the observable age of the earth, it is not supported by it.

 

[Aman777]

You really have to read the whole chapter (Isaiah 24). It refers to the end time.

The observable age of the earth supports GAP theory.

Dear Old, Not so. Our Earth is some 4.53 Billion years old. How does that support the UnScriptural Gap theory? What it supports is the FACT that the traditional religious theory of how old the Earth is, is WRONG.

In your reading of Isaiah 24, you missed the fact that the SNARE is what God is telling us about. It is the Flood. Would you like MORE Scripture which supports this?

17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.
18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare:

Your time, Please tell us what the SNARE is, and show us how the snare is a trap. Notice that it catches those who come up out of the midst of the pit (Hell). This event is future to our time. Correct? Or do you think the inhabitants of the earth come up out of the pit all the time?

In Love,
Aman

 

[OldWiseGuy]

The observable age of the earth supports.... the age of the earth.

GAP "theory" was built around the observable age of the earth, it is not supported by it.

A distinction without a difference as I apply it.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Dear Old, Not so. Our Earth is some 4.53 Billion years old. How does that support the UnScriptural Gap theory? What it supports is the FACT that the traditional religious theory of how old the Earth is, is WRONG.

GAP theory asserts that the earth is older than Genesis 1:1 is believed to state. This assertion is supported by geology.

In your reading of Isaiah 24, you missed the fact that the SNARE is what God is telling us about. It is the Flood. Would you like MORE Scripture which supports this?


17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.
18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare:

Your time, Please tell us what the SNARE is, and show us how the snare is a trap. Notice that it catches those who come up out of the midst of the pit (Hell). This event is future to our time. Correct? Or do you think the inhabitants of the earth come up out of the pit all the time?

I have read the whole chapter and believe it to be end time prophecy.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

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