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That was based on hearsay from an officer who was fired and not available for questioning by Garcia’s lawyer. That hearsay named him as a gang member in Long Island, a place where he never lived.An immigration judge disagrees. The judge found him to be a MS‐13 gang member based on the preponderance of the evidence provided.
This coming from the people who voted to elect a serial adulterer who hung out with Jeffry Epstein to the office of president.
I didn’t vote for him but your whataboutism is notedThis coming from the people who voted to elect a serial adulterer who hung out with Jeffry Epstein to the office of president.
That was based on hearsay from an officer who was fired and not available for questioning by Garcia’s lawyer. That hearsay named him as a gang member in Long Island, a place where he never lived.
Not whataboutism, hypocrisy. <Points at Title of thread>I didn’t vote for him but your whataboutism is noted
Yes you would and you would think we elected HitlerNot whataboutism, hypocrisy. <Points at Title of thread>
'You would think we deported a candidate for father of the year'
If only we could prevent all gang members from going to prison. Heaven forbid they are in fear of rival gangs. All gang members should be released now!
During a full evidentiary hearing, Abrego Garcia offered his own sworn testimony, that of his wife, Vasquez Sura, and voluminous evidence showing he was not a gang member and was eligible for protection under federal law. The immigration judge ordered withholding of removal on October 10, 2019. The judge found Abrego Garcia “credible,” observing that his “testimony was internally consistent, externally consistent” with the “substantial documentation,” and “appeared free of embellishment.”I haven't followed this case closely, but I'm just posting an excerpt from the PDF posted a few posts up.
Regardless, the determination that the Respondent is a gang member appears to be trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely, information contained in the Gang Field Interview Sheet. Although the Court is reluctant to give evidentiary weight to the Respondent's clothing as an indication of gang affiliation, the fact that a "past, proven, and reliable source of information" verified the Respondent's gang membership, rank, and gang name is sufficient to support that the Respondent is a gang member, and the Respondent has failed to present evidence to rebut that assertion.Is there new evidence that rebuts that assertion?
During a full evidentiary hearing, Abrego Garcia offered his own sworn testimony, that of his wife, Vasquez Sura, and voluminous evidence showing he was not a gang member and was eligible for protection under federal law. The immigration judge ordered withholding of removal on October 10, 2019. The judge found Abrego Garcia “credible,” observing that his “testimony was internally consistent, externally consistent” with the “substantial documentation,” and “appeared free of embellishment.”
People have defended this wife beater because he was afraid of rival gangs in prison? Should we also release the child molesters and pedophiles because of their fear of being killed in prison also? My point is that a criminals concern for their safety in prison is a weak defense.Perhaps I missed where anyone has stated that gang members should be released. What I've seen is some people stating that some individuals need to be returned to the US from the El Salvador prison, so they can receive due process in accordance to the rights granted in the US Constitution.
No. Not that I am aware of. But for some strange reason, people still tell me that it is a lie.I haven't followed this case closely, but I'm just posting an excerpt from the PDF posted a few posts up.
Regardless, the determination that the Respondent is a gang member appears to be trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely, information contained in the Gang Field Interview Sheet. Although the Court is reluctant to give evidentiary weight to the Respondent's clothing as an indication of gang affiliation, the fact that a "past, proven, and reliable source of information" verified the Respondent's gang membership, rank, and gang name is sufficient to support that the Respondent is a gang member, and the Respondent has failed to present evidence to rebut that assertion.Is there new evidence that rebuts that assertion?
Isn't that statement from the the wife beaters lawyer? And you believe that?During a full evidentiary hearing, Abrego Garcia offered his own sworn testimony, that of his wife, Vasquez Sura, and voluminous evidence showing he was not a gang member and was eligible for protection under federal law. The immigration judge ordered withholding of removal on October 10, 2019. The judge found Abrego Garcia “credible,” observing that his “testimony was internally consistent, externally consistent” with the “substantial documentation,” and “appeared free of embellishment.”
During an interview with Terry Moran of ABC, Trump insists Garcia literally had MS13 tattooed on his knuckles.But look at this completely real and totally not photoshopped tattoo of MS13 that Garcia totally got on his knuckles but was never mentioned in any arrest or court document finding he was a gang member:
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And I just want to clarify that if this is what everyone pretty much agrees it is, that is a photoshopped image of MS13 on Garcia's knuckles, that's absolute lies and depravity on the part of this absolutely corrupt, criminal government.
And I'll state ONCE AGAIN that the President of the United States is himself a CONVICTED FELON!!!! Conservative concern over criminals in our country are completely flaccid.
Ultimately irrelevant - he still is entitled to due process.Court Docs Reveal Ex-Husband of MS-13 Member's Wife Fears for His Children’s Lives — Warned Authorities She’s Dating a “Gang Member” | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft
Newly unearthed court documents reveal that the ex-husband of a "U.S. citizen," now married to a deported illegal immigrant linked to the notorious MS-13 gang, warned in 2018 that his children’s lives were at risk. Yet despite mounting evidence tying Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the brutal criminal...www.thegatewaypundit.com
Court Docs Reveal Ex-Husband of MS-13 Member’s Wife Fears for His Children’s Lives — Warned Authorities She’s Dating a “Gang Member”
People have defended this wife beater because he was afraid of rival gangs in prison? Should we also release the child molesters and pedophiles because of their fear of being killed in prison also? My point is that a criminals concern for their safety in prison is a weak defense.
So all this back and forth about whether or not he was a gang member is irrelevant? All the accusations I received are irrelevant? Me being called a liar and I am deceived is irrelevant? Let's face it, it is only "irrelevant" to those who have lost the argument and cannot say, "I was wrong."Ultimately irrelevant - he still is entitled to due process.
Not really, as it reflects public opinion of the individual. At this point though, I've recognized that the well is...er...well and truly poisoned, and there's no point in trying to change your personal opinion of the man. In then end though, what you think of him is meaningless as far as the justice system goes. He could be literally Hitler, and it wouldn't change my position on this - he deserves due process under the law. If the courts said that he couldn't be deported, and he was deported anyway, then the government broke the law. Full stop. Nothing else matters at that point. They should be doing everything in their power to correct their mistake, no matter who he is or how good or bad a person he is. If, once the mistake is corrected, they want to go to court and ask that his protection from deportation be revoked, they can do that. And if their request is granted, they can deport him again, and I won't raise a fuss - due process will have been followed.So all this back and forth about whether or not he was a gang member is irrelevant?
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