Trump's border czar schools Obama-appointed judge on the ‘right’ to use Alien Enemies Act

[ozso]

So you claim. Or rather some source you tune into claims.

Aiding and abetting and obstruction what it amounts to.

Trump doing what Republicans want him to do through the authority and cooperation of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is a component of U.S. Department of Homeland Security, which is a U.S. federal executive department.

 

[ozso]

There was a chance for Immigration reform but Trump had Republicans to kill their own law. Any problems is Trump fault, not Democrats.

You have to be violating a law to be guilty of aiding and abetting or obstruction. Democrats haven't done that.

Trump is violating US law and the Constitution. He is the guilty party but you and Republicans support that criminal.

So you claim. Or rather some source you tune into claims.

Aiding and abetting and obstruction is what it amounts to.

Trump is doing what Republicans voted for him to do through the authority and cooperation of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Which is a component of U.S. Department of Homeland Security, which is a U.S. federal executive department.

 

[Yarddog]

So you claim. Or rather some source you tune into claims.

Nope, it's all proven facts.

Aiding and abetting and obstruction is what it amounts to.

Name a law which they are violating. You can't.

Trump is doing what Republicans voted for him to do

That matters little just as more Americans voted against him him and for him matter.

through the authority and cooperation of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

That doesn't allow him to deport people without due process. It is up the the courts to say if they are deported.

Which is a component of U.S. Department of Homeland Security, which is a U.S. federal executive department.

Nope.

 

[ozso]

Nope, it's all proven facts.

Name a law which they are violating. You can't.

That matters little just as more Americans voted against him him and for him matter.


That doesn't allow him to deport people without due process. It is up the the courts to say if they are deported.


Nope.

According to whom?

I said any law that enables illegal immigration, amounts to aiding and abetting and obstruction. Just like many who disagree with the SCOTUS ruling of presidential immunity, I disagree with any ruling that stands in the way of deporting illegal aliens.

Judges aren't in charge of ICE and DHS.

 

[Yarddog]

According to whom?

1. Where were you a year ago when Republicans were talking about their immigration bill?
2. Don't you understand the law enough to know that someone has to violate one to aid and abet those violating the law.
3. The law that Trump invoked does not give him the authority to deport immigrants without going through the courts. He also hasn't given the immigrants due process, which violates the Constitution.l

I said any law that enables illegal immigration, amounts to aiding and abetting and obstruction.

If it's a law then it's illegal to violate that law.
It Trump doesn't follow that law he is the one in obstruction of justice and violates his oath of office.

Just like many who disagree with the SCOTUS ruling of presidential immunity, I disagree with any ruling that stands in the way of deporting illegal aliens.

Then you are obstructing justice.

Judges aren't in charge of ICE and DHS.

They are if ICE or DHS violates US Law. The Constitution grants them that authority.

 

[ozso]

1. Where were you a year ago when Republicans were talking about their immigration bill?
2. Don't you understand the law enough to know that someone has to violate one to aid and abet those violating the law.
3. The law that Trump invoked does not give him the authority to deport immigrants without going through the courts. He also hasn't given the immigrants due process, which violates the Constitution.


If it's a law then it's illegal to violate that law.
It Trump doesn't follow that law he is the one in obstruction of justice and violates his oath of office.

Then you are obstructing justice.

They are if ICE or DHS violates US Law. The Constitution grants them that authority.

1. Doesn't answer the question.
2. Doesn't follow what I said.
3. The president is acting through ICE and DHS.

If that was the case across the board then law makers and politicians wouldn't be calling for the impeachment of Judge Boasberg.

 

[Yarddog]

1. Doesn't answer the question.
2. Doesn't follow what I said.
3. The president is acting through ICE and DHS

You said, "According to whom?" A very vague question. Point out exactly what you want.
Acting through ICE means nothing. A judge has the Constitutional authority to stop everyone from acting unconstitutionally.

If that was the case across the board then law makers and politicians wouldn't be calling for the impeachment of Judge Boasberg.

Only a few Republicans are wanting to impeach the judge. Most understand it is a smoke screen to try. That won't stop them from being disruptive, just as the impeachment of Mayorkas was ruled unconstitutional.

 

[ozso]

You said, "According to whom?" A very vague question. Point out exactly what you want.
Acting through ICE means nothing. A judge has the Constitutional authority to stop everyone from acting unconstitutionally.

Only a few Republicans are wanting to impeach the judge. Most understand it is a smoke screen to try. That won't stop them from being disruptive, just as the impeachment of Mayorkas was ruled unconstitutional.

Nothing has come close to being more disruptive than the endless failed lawfair attempts to either get Trump out of office or to keep him from being reelected. The Republicans have a long ways to go before coming anywhere close to matching it. And in this case it's Boasberg who's being disruptive, trying to throw a monkey wrench into the operation. Along with other Democrats trying to shield alien criminals. Both President Trump and Secretary of State Rubio have the constitutional authority to order the dedeportation of legal aliens. Along with the authority to revoke visas and green cards.

 

[Yarddog]

Nothing has come close to being more disruptive than the endless failed lawfair attempts to either get Trump out of office or to keep him from being reelected.

You can thank Trump and his criminal practices for the disruption. He loves that style. The court system is exactly how the Founding Fathers set up the handling of disputes

The Republicans have a long ways to go before coming anywhere close to matching it. And in this case it's Boasberg who's being disruptive, trying to throw a monkey wrench into the operation.

That is what happens when someone is acting illegally. The courts stop them to ensure our rights aren't being trampled on. All Trump has to do is obey the law.

Along with other Democrats trying to shield alien criminals.

Shielding people from wrongful acts is their job. It is the immigration courts which decide who gets deported. But Trump stopped Congress from adding more immigration judges to help with the backlog of cases and now he is firing them so we have less to handle this matter.

Trump is fully responsible for the disruption.

Both President Trump and Secretary of State Rubio have the constitutional authority to order the dedeportation of legal aliens. Along with the authority to revoke visas and green cards.

Not without due process. Let the courts handle the matter and help them hear the cases and deport all those which fall of those that fall outside protection of the law.

 

[ozso]

You can thank Trump and his criminal practices for the disruption. He loves that style. The court system is exactly how the Founding Fathers set up the handling of disputes


That is what happens when someone is acting illegally. The courts stop them to ensure our rights aren't being trampled on. All Trump has to do is obey the law.


Shielding people from wrongful acts is their job. It is the immigration courts which decide who gets deported. But Trump stopped Congress from adding more immigration judges to help with the backlog of cases and now he is firing them so we have less to handle this matter.

Trump is fully responsible for the disruption.


Not without due process. Let the courts handle the matter and help them hear the cases and deport all those which fall of those that fall outside protection of the law.

Nope, the illegal aliens need to be deported ASAP so the US can get onto other business. No democrat judge or district congressperson like AOC is going to delay it or stop it from happening.

 

[Yarddog]

Nope, the illegal aliens need to be deported ASAP so the US can get onto other business.

Okay, follow the law. It's easy.

No democrat judge or district congressperson like AOC is going to delay it or stop it from happening.

They have already. Now it's time to see just how far Republicans will go outside the Constitution.

 

[ozso]

Okay, follow the law. It's easy.

How quick and easy is whatever processing system going to be for millions of illegal aliens?

They have already. Now it's time to see just how far Republicans will go outside the Constitution.

That won't last long. They don't need to, they just need to override interference and sabotage.

 

[Yarddog]

How quick and easy is whatever processing system going to be for millions of illegal aliens?

Probably very long but that's Trump's fault. He shouldn't have killed the bill that would have put more immigration judges on the bench. We would have been a lot further along in finding criminals and deporting them. The process will only get worse now because Trump fired many of the judges already hearing cases.

It's Republicans fault.

That won't last long. They don't need to, they just need to override interference and sabotage.

That's not how the law works. Trump can't steamroll his way and expect the government to bow down to his will. It's the judges responsibility and they have the power to make sure that Trump obeys the he law.

Trump has sabotaged the process and continues to interfere in people's rights.

 

[QvQ]

The US has been deporting Mafia members for at least 50 years.
And I believe some of those were actual US citizens
JFK did that so what is the sudden big deal about this?

Before abt 1973, a person could lose their citizenship for fighting in a foreign army or swearing allegiance to a foreign flag.

 

[ozso]

Probably very long but that's Trump's fault. He shouldn't have killed the bill that would have put more immigration judges on the bench. We would have been a lot further along in finding criminals and deporting them. The process will only get worse now because Trump fired many of the judges already hearing cases.

It's Republicans fault.

That's not how the law works. Trump can't steamroll his way and expect the government to bow down to his will. It's the judges responsibility and they have the power to make sure that Trump obeys the he law.

Trump has sabotaged the process and continues to interfere in people's rights.

*sigh* typical.

 

[ozso]

The US has been deporting Mafia members for at least 50 years.
And I believe some of those were actual US citizens
JFK did that so what is the sudden big deal about this?

Before abt 1973, a person could lose their citizenship for fighting in a foreign army or swearing allegiance to a foreign flag.

It wasn't a big deal when it was Obama deporting millions. It's only a big deal when it's Trump. And it's perfectly okay for the law to be broken and due process to be skipped when it comes to illegal immigration. They just don't want to lose their illegal cheap labor voter force.

 

[Yarddog]

*sigh* typical.

Yeah, because it's fact. That's just like Republican lies. Typical.

 

[ozso]