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Trump: States he has every right to interfere in a Presidential Election

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Not buying the liberal propaganda.
Liberal propaganda on Fox News!

There has been no evidence of actual systematic election fraud by either party in American elections - ever. Obama did not claim there had been. He mocked Trump for thinking so.

Show I am wrong by citing actual evidence rather than accusations and innuendo - if you can!
 
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There has been no evidence of actual systematic election fraud by either party in American elections
Maybe you should tell that to the liberals who have publicly claimed some of their elections were stolen. It is shame there are so many election deniers out there. They just seem to be everywhere!
 
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False! Years before Obama "mocked Trump" Obama did say there had been "monkeying around" with elections!
He did not claim there had been systematic electoral fraud. There has been considerable gerrymandering, that is fiddling boundaries to party advantage. The Republicans have been at it recently.

In contrast Trump has said many times the the Democrats stole the election. He has never been able to support the accusation with a scintilla of evidence.
 
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Evidence will not always lead one to the proper conclusion.

Evidence is required for a court of law to reach the proper conclusion.


I guess you have conveniently forgotten a few years ago that democrats were voicing concerns about cheating in elections through the possibility of manipulating voting machines and mail in ballots.

....and if needed, Democrats and Republicans took their case to the courts for resolution.

Do you respect our Court system or not?
 
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Evidence is required for a court of law to reach the proper conclusion.

Some times evidence has lead to an improper conclusion. False convictions are evidence of that.
....and if needed, Democrats and Republicans took their case to the courts for resolution.
Too deep of a rabbit hole for this thread.
Do you respect our Court system or not?
Not always. Merchan, Fanni and Garland are prime examples. Maybe it would be more accurate to say the system is great but many running it are corrupt so that casts a bad light on the system for allowing that to continue.
 
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What kind of excesses would that be?
Goading, flaming other forum members or public figures, calling for crimes to be committed.. same stuff as always, I'd say.
 
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Goading, flaming other forum members or public figures, calling for crimes to be committed.. same stuff as always, I'd say.
And what crimes are promoted by members of this forum. Sounds like an outlandish claim to me!
 
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There was no insurrection at the capitol, a riot yes but no insurrection that is a liberal fantasy and gaslighting.
When groups are convicted of planning their attack, it is not just a riot that spontaneously broke out.
 
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And what crimes are promoted by members of this forum. Sounds like an outlandish claim to me!
Of course crimes are sometimes promoted on this forum, just like other rules are broken. For example, I remember there being a thread about copyright laws and when it's moral to pirate stuff like software or music, but actually endorsing such piracy would be endorsing something that's against the law and thus was moderated.
 
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Of course crimes are sometimes promoted on this forum, just like other rules are broken. For example, I remember there being a thread about copyright laws and when it's moral to pirate stuff like software or music, but actually endorsing such piracy would be endorsing something that's against the law and thus was moderated.
So you were talking about copyright laws in the post I quoted? Seems a little random,
 
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So you were talking about copyright laws in the post I quoted? Seems a little random,
I was talking in general. Since my crystal ball is in the repair shop, I can't tell you which, if any unlawful activities will be promoted by forum members after the coming US election.
 
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When groups are convicted of planning their attack, it is not just a riot that spontaneously broke out.
Tell us how many Jan 6 rioters were charged with insurrection? Since insurrection is a popular liberal talking point someone must have been charged for this heinous crime.
 
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Tell us how many Jan 6 rioters were charged with insurrection? Since insurrection is a popular liberal talking point someone must have been charged for this heinous crime.
Seditious conspiracy and "insurrection" are so close together in the legal code that they are literally adjacent sections. There is no practical difference between them.
 
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Seditious conspiracy and "insurrection" are so close together in the legal code that they are literally adjacent sections. There is no practical difference between them.
Got it! So we were close an insurrection but didn’t actually have one. Thanks for clarifying.
 
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Got it! So we were close an insurrection but didn’t actually have one. Thanks for clarifying.
Don't put words in my mouth! I do not endorse this distortion of what I wrote.
 
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Don't put words in my mouth! I do not endorse this distortion of what I wrote.
It speaks for itself. IMO your post was the distortion by trying to make charges that were not charges of insurrection sound the same as or equal to . The fact is there was no insurrection by those rioters or by Trump and all of this liberal propaganda is just furthering the agenda of the left.
 
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