Trump secretly sent covid tests to Putin during 2020 shortage

[wing2000]

Then perhaps this will help mitigate the bewilderment. It is beneficial to engage our enemies. I understand sometimes they can be bought off. Doesn't seem to had much of a positive result on Iran. Oh well.

Engaging our enemies in an official capacity....certainly. Putin understand Trump is a transactional man....I can only imagine the favors exchanged. Oh well, I guess we'll never know unless the Kremlin releases the recordings of their conversations...

 

[Palmfever]

Engaging our enemies in an official capacity....certainly. Putin understand Trump is a transactional man....I can only imagine the favors exchanged. Oh well, I guess we'll never know unless the Kremlin releases the recordings of their conversations...

Sounds to me like "Vain imagination."
Monsters ithe closet.

 

[essentialsaltes]

It is beneficial to engage our enemies.

The Logan Act, which "makes it illegal for American citizens to negotiate with foreign governments in dispute with the United States without prior approval, was introduced in 1799 and is meant to prevent unauthorized diplomacy from undermining the current administration’s position."

 

[Palmfever]

The Logan Act, which "makes it illegal for American citizens to negotiate with foreign governments in dispute with the United States without prior approval, was introduced in 1799 and is meant to prevent unauthorized diplomacy from undermining the current administration’s position."

I could call Putin. so what. He would not answer. Now if I called with information on sensitive gov info that may not be a windmill, but rather an issue. anyone can write a book and many these days do and publish online. Again So what?
Woodward is a joke.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/08/woodward-book-trump-putin-calls-00182840

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

No no, it doesn't work THAT way.

If you make a claim that woodward is "disparaging" Trump, I don't know if you are saying that the content of his books are true or not. IF he is representing and writing about Trump's actions, it's totally reasonable for me to ask you whether any content currently in the book HAS been proven as false. In fact, has Woodward EVER had issues with truthfulness? For any president? Also, it's not disparaging if you are reporting his actions.

Those things are easily proven false. Trump

I'm asking you to prove you have a basis to question his credibility.

You seem perplexed about this. Woodward is NOT saying complimentary things about Trump. I hope we can agree on that. We know he is a rabid Trump hater because he just wrote an...unflattering trilogy of books - THREE - books about him. I cited all this above.

He is using an anonymous source here to say the quote in the original quote. He doesn't even know if Trump spoke to Putin. He just "may have." But pay attention to how all the propagandist media is running with it as if it is established as true, when it is not. It's just "somebody said it may have happened". Nope.

"..and may have spoken with Putin seven times since Trump left the White House in 2020. This, according to an unnamed Trump aide in Bob Wooward's upcoming book:

"Trump denied the reporting, telling ABC News' Jonathan Karl that Woodward is “a storyteller. A bad one. And he’s lost his marbles.”

Trump had previously spoken to Woodward for the journalist's 2021 book, “Rage.” Trump later sued over it, claiming Woodward never had permission to publicly release recordings of their interviews for the book. The publisher and Woodward denied his allegations."

Steven Cheung, Trump’s communications director, said none of the stories in Woodward’s books are true."

AP

Trump sued Woodward over the tapes, alleging:

This case centers on Mr. Woodward’s systematic usurpation, manipulation, and exploitation of audio of President Trump gathered in connection with a series of interviews conducted by Mr. Woodward," the lawsuit says.

• Paramount Global is also named in the lawsuit, which claims that Trump consented to Woodward recording conversations "for the sole purpose of a book," but did not grant permission to use those recordings for an audiobook.

I am not seeing any resolution of this case which dragged through the last couple of years. Will update if I do.

Sounds like it may be ongoing, as this Hill article is from two days ago:

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"Former President Trump’s campaign is rejecting accounts in journalist Bob Woodward’s new book that the Republican presidential nominee has held multiple phone calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin since leaving office in January 2021.

Woodward also wrote in his book, “War,” that Trump agreed to secretly send Putin COVID-19 testing equipment.

Steven Cheung, the communications director for the Trump campaign, told The Hill in a statement that “None of these made up stories by Bob Woodward are true” and said Trump gave no access to the journalist for the latest book, as Trump had for past books.

Cheung said Woodward “suffers from a debilitating case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.”

The spokesperson further pointed to Trump’s lawsuit against Woodward, in which the former president is seeking $50 million from the veteran journalist over his publication of tapes of interviews he conducted with Trump while he was in office between December 2019 and August 2020, which featured in the 2020 book “Rage.”

Woodward and his publisher filed to get the case dismissed in September 2023. The Hill has reached out to Woodward for comment on the Trump campaign’s latest criticism."

 

[Postvieww]

Indeed. Those of us who recall a Republican Party of Regan that detested leaders such as Kim and Putin are a bit puzzled by the party's apparent turn.

How Gorbachev and Reagan's Friendship Helped Thaw the Cold War | HISTORY Reagan met with and had a friendship with Gorbachev. There is far more to worry about with the Democrat party.

 

[wing2000]

How Gorbachev and Reagan's Friendship Helped Thaw the Cold War | HISTORY Reagan met with and had a friendship with Gorbachev. There is far more to worry about with the Democrat party.

First of all, Gorbachev is not Putin. Putin dispises the fall of the Soviet Empire and likely, Gorbachev's role in it.
Secondly, your article makes no mention of Regan calling Gorbachev after Regan left office.

 

[Postvieww]

Secondly, your article makes no mention of Regan calling Gorbachev after Regan left office.

So?

 

[wing2000]

So?

So, that is what Trump allegedly did.

 

[DaisyDay]

No, it's indeed a deflection to a different question. And "what people do here" is irrelevant.

One should have substantive information backed by a legitimate source before making remarks that are not clearly just opinion. "Harris or Trump would be a bad President" = Opinion. "Harris (or Trump) stated this illegal or bad thing." =authoritative assertion which requires proof beyond "Trust me, bro".

But this is just Woodward expanding upon his favorite subject recently, Trump disparagement. He wrote THREE separate rant books about him - not one, as he has done for some other Presidents,

Have you read any of them?

 

[rambot]

You seem perplexed about this. Woodward is NOT saying complimentary things about Trump. I hope we can agree on that. We know he is a rabid Trump hater because he just wrote an...unflattering trilogy of books - THREE - books about him. I cited all this above.

See here's the thing. IT really doesn't MATTER if things are "complimentary" or not.
Why are you hung up on that? I'm happy to agree with you. None of that has any bearing on the TRUTH of what he's writing.

Woodward has found out a lot about him through research and formed an opinion on him.

Why should this be surprising?

He is using an anonymous source here to say the quote in the original quote. He doesn't even know if Trump spoke to Putin. He just "may have." But pay attention to how all the propagandist media is running with it as if it is established as true, when it is not. It's just "somebody said it may have happened". Nope.

Well, it's pretty commonly known that Trump has had 1 to 1 conversations with Putin. This is not a surprise. Several people have confirmed that conversation.

"..and may have spoken with Putin seven times since Trump left the White House in 2020. This, according to an unnamed Trump aide in Bob Wooward's upcoming book:

"Trump denied the reporting, telling ABC News' Jonathan Karl that Woodward is “a storyteller. A bad one. And he’s lost his marbles.”

IF you use a source that is unnamed, is it appropriate to FULLY assert that it did happen? No. OF course not. You can't definitively say that is a third party reporting on the incident.

Trump had previously spoken to Woodward for the journalist's 2021 book, “Rage.” Trump later sued over it, claiming Woodward never had permission to publicly release recordings of their interviews for the book. The publisher and Woodward denied his allegations."

Steven Cheung, Trump’s communications director, said none of the stories in Woodward’s books are true."

LOL!!! What a baby.

That is absolutely hilarious to me! I can picture TRump being interviewed for that book thinking that Woodward is going to make him look stately, competent...better than Obama. Because he's a narcissist and the thought of the most famous presidential biographer would have pumped him up.

Then it came out and now everything is untrue because he likely thinks Woodward "mischaracterized" everything.

LOL! What kind of counter argument is that. "none of the stories". What a load of nonsense!

It's too funny to keep reading about this.
I have to get back to work.

 

[Hans Blaster]

You seem perplexed about this. Woodward is NOT saying complimentary things about Trump. I hope we can agree on that. We know he is a rabid Trump hater because he just wrote an...unflattering trilogy of books - THREE - books about him. I cited all this above.

3 and half books on Trump. The fourth book also covers the Biden campaign and the early months of the Biden administration.

Woodward has also written two books on Obama, two on Clinton, four on GW Bush, one on the first Bush, and five on Nixon/Watergate.

Woodward writes a lot of books about presidents.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

3 and half books on Trump. The fourth book also covers the Biden campaign and the early months of the Biden administration.

Woodward has also written two books on Obama, two on Clinton, four on GW Bush, one on the first Bush, and five on Nixon/Watergate.

Woodward writes a lot of books about presidents.

That's true. I didn't mention the "half book".

But he has not written in such a prolific or demonizing way about any other President. If you read his tweets back during the Old Twitter era, you know he is rabidly anti-Trump. Not exactly an impartial source of information.

 

[essentialsaltes]

On X, journalist Laura Rozen shared an image purported to be from Woodward's book:

In June 2021, Six months into Biden’s term, Trump pressured Mo Brooks to call for a special election to reinstate Trump as president, according to Woodward’s new book. Brooks refused, leading to their split.

 

[Hans Blaster]

That's true. I didn't mention the "half book".

But he has not written in such a prolific or demonizing way about any other President. If you read his tweets back during the Old Twitter era, you know he is rabidly anti-Trump. Not exactly an impartial source of information.

Oddly Trump keeps sitting for interviews with him.

 

[DaisyDay]

That's true. I didn't mention the "half book".

But he has not written in such a prolific or demonizing way about any other President. If you read his tweets back during the Old Twitter era, you know he is rabidly anti-Trump. Not exactly an impartial source of information.

What did he write that was both "demonizing" and false?

 

[The Barbarian]

(As a Russian, he apparently doesn't drink)

I was once told that an Irishman who doesn't drink loses his status as an Irishman. I think it might be that way for Russians, too.

 

[RileyG]

I was once told that an Irishman who doesn't drink loses his status as an Irishman. I think it might be that way for Russians, too.

I’m only 1/4 Irish, but my soul is Russian because of all the vodka I’ve consumed

I’m joking.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Oddly Trump keeps sitting for interviews with him.

He goes into the lion's den regularly. Harris has not done so; she fears questions.

 

[The Barbarian]

He goes into the lion's den regularly.

But he's never going to go back into the lioness's den again, is he?