Trump secretly sent covid tests to Putin during 2020 shortage

[durangodawood]

...Actually Putin endorsed Kamala.

You believe that Putin actually feels that way just because he said it?

 

[Desk trauma]

You believe that Putin actually feels that way just because he said it?

KGB agents words should always be taken at face value, clearly.

 

[Laodicean60]

If there is value in human life there is nothing wrong with it no matter the country. Now if he sent weapons secrets a different story but how many years has it been of Russia, Russia Russia?

 

[durangodawood]

KGB agents words should always be taken at face value, clearly.

People believe what they prefer to hear.

 

[Postvieww]

You believe that Putin actually feels that way just because he said it?

I think Putin would rather deal with a weak inexperienced Kamala than a strong experienced Trump!

 

[durangodawood]

I think Putin would rather deal with a weak inexperienced Kamala than a strong experienced Trump!

There's good arguments both ways for what Putin "really wants".

But for sure "Putin says...." is not worth anything.

 

[RileyG]

...why would private-citizen Trump have phone calls with Putin?

JUST a private citizen?

Oh, really?

Trump is BIG, HUGE, IMPORTANT

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Why not? I see it ALL over the place here? I mean I can say 2 words: Hunter's Laptop....and we're "off and running" with the "prove an authoritative assertion".

And my question about woodward is not really a deflection. It's a perfectly reasonable question.

No, it's indeed a deflection to a different question. And "what people do here" is irrelevant.

One should have substantive information backed by a legitimate source before making remarks that are not clearly just opinion. "Harris or Trump would be a bad President" = Opinion. "Harris (or Trump) stated this illegal or bad thing." =authoritative assertion which requires proof beyond "Trust me, bro".

But this is just Woodward expanding upon his favorite subject recently, Trump disparagement. He wrote THREE separate rant books about him - not one, as he has done for some other Presidents,

 

[rambot]

No, it's indeed a deflection to a different question. And "what people do here" is irrelevant.

One should have substantive information backed by a legitimate source before making remarks that are not clearly just opinion. "Harris or Trump would be a bad President" = Opinion. "Harris (or Trump) stated this illegal or bad thing." =authoritative assertion which requires proof beyond "Trust me, bro".

But this is just Woodward expanding upon his favorite subject recently, Trump disparagement. He wrote THREE separate rant books about him - not one, as he has done for some other Presidents,

Has anything he's written about trump been ACTIVELY disproven?

And boy, don't you think it's too bad that Trump always insist on NDAs with anyone he interacts with? Wouldn't it be great if all those people could speak freely so they could FINALLY clear Trump's name?

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Has anything he's written about trump been ACTIVELY disproven?

And boy, don't you think it's too bad that Trump always insist on NDAs with anyone he interacts with? Wouldn't it be great if all those people could speak freely so they could FINALLY clear Trump's name?

No, no,....it doesn't work that way. One must be truthful and accurate in representations and the burden is on the one making the representation. The burden does NOT fall on others to prove a negative.

 

[rambot]

Here's another example of something with no proof (due to circumstances created BY Trump):

Anyone else concerned about the high number of deaths of spies during Trump's tenure, REGARDLESS of whether it was Trump's direct fault or not?

I know a lot of security experts said Trump's presidency put America's spy network back decades....

 

[rambot]

No, no,....it doesn't work that way. One must be truthful and accurate in representations and the burden is on the one making the representation. The burden does NOT fall on others to prove a negative.

No no, it doesn't work THAT way.

If you make a claim that woodward is "disparaging" Trump, I don't know if you are saying that the content of his books are true or not. IF he is representing and writing about Trump's actions, it's totally reasonable for me to ask you whether any content currently in the book HAS been proven as false. In fact, has Woodward EVER had issues with truthfulness? For any president? Also, it's not disparaging if you are reporting his actions.

Those things are easily proven false. Trump

I'm asking you to prove you have a basis to question his credibility.

 

[Desk trauma]

JUST a private citizen?

Yes. He currently holds no office.

 

[Palmfever]

....and may have spoken with Putin seven times since Trump left the White House in 2020. This, according to an unnamed Trump aide in Bob Wooward's upcoming book:

Putin, petrified of the virus, accepted the supplies but took pains to prevent political fallout — not for him, but for his American counterpart. He cautioned Trump not to reveal that he had dispatched the scarce medical equipment to Moscow, according to a new book by Washington Post associate editor Bob Woodward.

Putin, according to the book, told Trump, “I don’t want you to tell anybody because people will get mad at you, not me.”

In early 2024, the former president ordered an aide away from his office at Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence in Florida, so he could conduct a private phone call with the Russian leader, according to Woodward’s account.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/08/bob-woodward-new-book-war-trump-putin-biden/

And Bidin gave 6 bil to Iran.
Putin took a covid test. Oh my.
Iran manufactured weapons.
That's ok.

 

[RileyG]

Yes. He currently holds no office.

I know. I was being facetious

 

[wing2000]

And Bidin gave 6 bil to Iran.
Putin took a covid test. Oh my.
Iran manufactured weapons.
That's ok.

It's not the covid test that is concerning (though it's weird), it's the alleged 1:1 conversations that occured.

 

[wing2000]

JUST a private citizen?

Oh, really?

Trump is BIG, HUGE, IMPORTANT

...well yea, he held a top secret security clearance. Mr Putin would find great value in trading information for favors....

 

[Palmfever]

It's not the covid test that is concerning (though it's weird), it's the alleged 1:1 conversations that occured.

He also met with Kim. So many in the democratic party love tilting at the windmills.

 

[wing2000]

He also met with Kim. So many in the democratic party love tilting at the windmills.

Indeed. Those of us who recall a Republican Party of Regan that detested leaders such as Kim and Putin are a bit puzzled by the party's apparent turn.

 

[Palmfever]

Indeed. Those of us who recall a Republican Party of Regan that detested leaders such as Kim and Putin are a bit puzzled by the party's apparent turn.

Then perhaps this will help mitigate the bewilderment. It is beneficial to engage our enemies. I understand sometimes they can be bought off. Doesn't seem to had much of a positive result on Iran. Oh well.