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Trump Claiming that He will Solve All Problems, So Christians Won't Have to Vote

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This is a HUGE problem!

Trump is a convicted felon.
He still has many open indictments for more felonies.
Trump speaks in terms of vague slogans (such as "I will fix everything..."), but does not seem to have any real policies.

Some topics that immediately come to mind to me, are...

1 Why would he be addressing "Christians"?
Why not address ALL American citizens who are eligible to vote?

2 Why does Trump not understand, that his lifestyle and choices disqualify him
from being some representative of orthodox Christians, in the government?
Trump is not a Protestant Christian. He has threatened judges and their families,
and suggested that the lynching of Nancy Pelosi and Mike Pence (outside the due
process of law) was the right thing to do. This is not Christian behavior.
Biden was not a Catholic Christian (not given how he supported abortion).

3 Would any local Christian congregation hire Trump to be their pastor?
This is a ridiculous concept. Who would trust Trump to even be their financial
advisor?

4 Why does Trump continue to NOT HAVE any specific policies, that he is running on?
Why this continual reference to "solving everything"?
Trump denied that the 2025 Plan was his outline of his policies,
even though this 900 page document fills out in quite a bit of detail how Trump
would seek to use legislation and the presidential powers to carry out his "slogans".

Why does Trump continue to deny that this 2025 Plan, written by his close former advisors
and friends, does not really flesh out his policies? This Plan includes the topics that Trump
has repeatedly asserted in past speeches.

If Trump has no specific policies, then he should be honest and say that.

If Trump's specific policies are different than the 2025 Plan,
then he should lay them out in more detail before voters, instead of
asking Christians to "trust him". After all, Trump is rich enough to have
hired a thousand managers to write specific policies to carry out his
"slogans". By now, he should have had detailed policies to present
to American voters.
---------- ----------

It is disturbing to see this candidate for president, who has been convicted
of 34 felonies for financial fraud and trying to deceive American voters
as to his bad character, appealing to "Christians" to trust him, to "fix everything".
Trump's history, says that he is untrustable, and is not at all concerned with
building up America.

Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, because in her overweening arrogance
near the end of the campaign, when she had a substantial lead over Trump, she
started to mock religious conservatives. She seem to think that all religious
conservatives are anti-intellectual hillbillies.

Now, Trump, with his 34 felony convictions, and his Tucker Carlson conspiracy
theories, and his vague slogans about "fixing everything", also seems to think
that religious conservatives in America are anti-intellectul hillbillies.

The Republican Party has no credible candidate for president of the United States.
 

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You do not get it yet politics is a game and illusion. Do you really think either one of these clowns or parties actually care about you. It is all about the power.
 
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You do not get it yet politics is a game and illusion. Do you really think either one of these clowns or parties actually care about you. It is all about the power.​
Do you think that was true with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Ted Roosevelt also? I think there have been altruistic presidents. I am not sure who they have been. I know it must take a huge ego to seek the position. But I do think they all seek to mold the U.S. into their vison of what they think it should be. The key is, how willing are they to listen to expert advice and collaborate with both sides of the isle. What we need now more than ever is someone who is willing to work with both sides, at least the moderates. The extremes are too far out there to be reasonable.
 
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It is well over the top, the boldness that politicians tell "mostly fantasies" to the voters. Usually who is President makes almost no difference in most people's life's. Sure there are a few things that get done, but just like Biden is trying to change the Supreme Court with term limits. Most of the promises are just wishful thinking. IF anything there should be an amendment that limits the age of office holders. It is fair, because there are limits on age already as you have to be 35. The Federal Government has age limits on certain other jobs so it is not unprecedented.

Laying aside the Trump fantasies, he will help with allowing oil and gas wells to be drilled. Trump did do what he said too with the Supreme Court choices last term and his policies toward Israel are good as well. I think Trump will be better in foreign affairs too.
On the negative for Trump, I do not like tax deferment schemes, as Trump and the GOP never cut taxes, they just shifted, the collections from one generation to another. (I would argue we all paid for them in inflation as well) Those Trump era tax deferments will possibly become law, btu the next administration and Congress will change them again.
 
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Do you think that was true with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Ted Roosevelt also? I think there have been altruistic presidents. I am not sure who they have been. I know it must take a huge ego to seek the position. But I do think they all seek to mold the U.S. into their vison of what they think it should be. The key is, how willing are they to listen to expert advice and collaborate with both sides of the isle. What we need now more than ever is someone who is willing to work with both sides, at least the moderates. The extremes are too far out there to be reasonable.
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I am not a student of history, so as for way back in the past i am not sure.

My gauge i use, is the time Ron Paul ran and made great sense, but was rejected. So my conclusion is most people actually do not want in office, actual people who will work to right the ship. They just want in people who will either promise them something or who they like or who they think is like them. But what they do not realize, no politician is like the people they are seeking a vote from. That is their talent, these politicians can appear and appeal to the voter on the bases they are just like them, but they are not.
 
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I think that it's a part of the conservative mindset that people expect their leaders to work literal miracles and solve everything by simple means. It's the non-intuitive consequence of conservative people viewing society as fundamentally flawed and beyond repair by incremental improvements and progressivism. This is why so many conservatives flock to populists who promise them the moon. If the impossible is the only thing you believe to be able to help, might as well vote for the guy who promises the impossible instead of the guy who promises the possible, but ultimately futile.
 
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Why should he lay policies when folks will elect him without them? If he lists policy, there might be accountability, and he avoids that.

Most do not object at all to his:

Cheating on every wife he has had
Bragging about sexually assaulting women
Committing fraud (on several fronts, then bankrupting most these businesses to avoid consequences)


And repeatedly committing:

Avarice
Adultery
Pride
Disrespectfulness
Lust, then bragging about it
Wrath

All while not repenting. Pick your source: trump ask for forgiveness - Google Search)

He needs neither policy nor personal growth to be elected by the masses. He can be as blatantly and as boastfully sinful as he wants, and the masses cheer him on and proclaim him a wonderful Christian (Isaiah 5:20). He will be elected just as he is, and he knows it. We (as a nation) will deserve what we get as we do not demand/expect better.

 
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So my conclusion is most people actually do not want in office, actual people who will work to right the ship. They just want in people who will either promise them something or who they like or who they think is like them.
That is a tough pill to swallow but I think you are right. As if we try to elect ourselves..or projections of ourselves.
 
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This is a HUGE problem!

Trump is a convicted felon.
He still has many open indictments for more felonies.
Trump speaks in terms of vague slogans (such as "I will fix everything..."), but does not seem to have any real policies.

Some topics that immediately come to mind to me, are...

1 Why would he be addressing "Christians"?
Why not address ALL American citizens who are eligible to vote?

2 Why does Trump not understand, that his lifestyle and choices disqualify him
from being some representative of orthodox Christians, in the government?
Trump is not a Protestant Christian. He has threatened judges and their families,
and suggested that the lynching of Nancy Pelosi and Mike Pence (outside the due
process of law) was the right thing to do. This is not Christian behavior.
Biden was not a Catholic Christian (not given how he supported abortion).

3 Would any local Christian congregation hire Trump to be their pastor?
This is a ridiculous concept. Who would trust Trump to even be their financial
advisor?

4 Why does Trump continue to NOT HAVE any specific policies, that he is running on?
Why this continual reference to "solving everything"?
Trump denied that the 2025 Plan was his outline of his policies,
even though this 900 page document fills out in quite a bit of detail how Trump
would seek to use legislation and the presidential powers to carry out his "slogans".

Why does Trump continue to deny that this 2025 Plan, written by his close former advisors
and friends, does not really flesh out his policies? This Plan includes the topics that Trump
has repeatedly asserted in past speeches.

If Trump has no specific policies, then he should be honest and say that.

If Trump's specific policies are different than the 2025 Plan,
then he should lay them out in more detail before voters, instead of
asking Christians to "trust him". After all, Trump is rich enough to have
hired a thousand managers to write specific policies to carry out his
"slogans". By now, he should have had detailed policies to present
to American voters.
---------- ----------

It is disturbing to see this candidate for president, who has been convicted
of 34 felonies for financial fraud and trying to deceive American voters
as to his bad character, appealing to "Christians" to trust him, to "fix everything".
Trump's history, says that he is untrustable, and is not at all concerned with
building up America.

Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, because in her overweening arrogance
near the end of the campaign, when she had a substantial lead over Trump, she
started to mock religious conservatives. She seem to think that all religious
conservatives are anti-intellectual hillbillies.

Now, Trump, with his 34 felony convictions, and his Tucker Carlson conspiracy
theories, and his vague slogans about "fixing everything", also seems to think
that religious conservatives in America are anti-intellectul hillbillies.

The Republican Party has no credible candidate for president of the United States.
Trump claimed with pride that because he is so popular, he could shoot someone in the open and not lose a vote. This is how he thinks about the blindness of his supporters. He prides himself on the power of his silver tongue to manipulate their weak minds. When Trump says it'll be fixed so good that you won't have to vote anymore, he's talking about HIS vision of what fixed looks like, and he's conveying to HIS Christians, "Trust in me".

Just like when he tried to "fix" an election that wasn't even broken. There too he counted on slander to deceive people into believing that whatever he says is true regardless of all the evidence to the contrary. When Trump says, "My beautiful Christians", he is implying ownership of gullible stooges. When he says vote this one last time, he means he won't need them anymore after this time.
 
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That is a tough pill to swallow but I think you are right. As if we try to elect ourselves..or projections of ourselves.
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That is why i believe the ship will never be righted. Because as the morality of society degrades so will the people they elect.
 
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I am not a student of history, so as for way back in the past i am not sure.

My gauge i use, is the time Ron Paul ran and made great sense, but was rejected. So my conclusion is most people actually do not want in office, actual people who will work to right the ship. They just want in people who will either promise them something or who they like or who they think is like them. But what they do not realize, no politician is like the people they are seeking a vote from. That is their talent, these politicians can appear and appeal to the voter on the bases they are just like them, but they are not.
To serve in office is servitude if we stay true to the meanings of words. Cynicism is counterproductive and populism is not trustworthy. There is a such thing as altruistic servitude. We can see it in Paternal and Maternal instinct.

It's true that a portion of the electorate is presently short on the capacity to see the differences in politicians who seek power and those who see it as a heavy burden of responsibility, but who also would wield it responsibly. Get the money out of politics and the greedy who seek power to line their pockets will diminish.
 
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To serve in office is servitude. Cynicism is counterproductive and populism is not trustworthy. There is a such thing as altruistic servitude. We can see it in Paternal and Maternal instinct. It's true that a portion of the electorate is presently short on the capacity to see the differences in politicians who seek power and those who would wield it responsibly. Get the money out of politics and the greedy who seek power to line their pockets will diminish.
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Corporations have their claws too dug in, for money to get out of politics.
 
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Corporations have their claws to dug in, for money to get out of politics.
You can't buy Love/God. That's why the greedy power-hungry corporate entities are still trying to deceive people into voting for the wrong person, using slander. Trump is claiming he only needs the gullible Christian vote this one last time.
 
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This is a HUGE problem!

Trump is a convicted felon.
He still has many open indictments for more felonies.
Trump speaks in terms of vague slogans (such as "I will fix everything..."), but does not seem to have any real policies.

Some topics that immediately come to mind to me, are...

1 Why would he be addressing "Christians"?
Why not address ALL American citizens who are eligible to vote?

2 Why does Trump not understand, that his lifestyle and choices disqualify him
from being some representative of orthodox Christians, in the government?
Trump is not a Protestant Christian. He has threatened judges and their families,
and suggested that the lynching of Nancy Pelosi and Mike Pence (outside the due
process of law) was the right thing to do. This is not Christian behavior.
Biden was not a Catholic Christian (not given how he supported abortion).

3 Would any local Christian congregation hire Trump to be their pastor?
This is a ridiculous concept. Who would trust Trump to even be their financial
advisor?

4 Why does Trump continue to NOT HAVE any specific policies, that he is running on?
Why this continual reference to "solving everything"?
Trump denied that the 2025 Plan was his outline of his policies,
even though this 900 page document fills out in quite a bit of detail how Trump
would seek to use legislation and the presidential powers to carry out his "slogans".

Why does Trump continue to deny that this 2025 Plan, written by his close former advisors
and friends, does not really flesh out his policies? This Plan includes the topics that Trump
has repeatedly asserted in past speeches.

If Trump has no specific policies, then he should be honest and say that.

If Trump's specific policies are different than the 2025 Plan,
then he should lay them out in more detail before voters, instead of
asking Christians to "trust him". After all, Trump is rich enough to have
hired a thousand managers to write specific policies to carry out his
"slogans". By now, he should have had detailed policies to present
to American voters.
---------- ----------

It is disturbing to see this candidate for president, who has been convicted
of 34 felonies for financial fraud and trying to deceive American voters
as to his bad character, appealing to "Christians" to trust him, to "fix everything".
Trump's history, says that he is untrustable, and is not at all concerned with
building up America.

Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, because in her overweening arrogance
near the end of the campaign, when she had a substantial lead over Trump, she
started to mock religious conservatives. She seem to think that all religious
conservatives are anti-intellectual hillbillies.

Now, Trump, with his 34 felony convictions, and his Tucker Carlson conspiracy
theories, and his vague slogans about "fixing everything", also seems to think
that religious conservatives in America are anti-intellectul hillbillies.

The Republican Party has no credible candidate for president of the United States.
Our government is corrupt on both sides .... the two parties ideas about how to "fix things" are very far apart. Really it's about communism verses capitalism. Do you want more government control or less? We do have a comparison ...

Under Trump

No mass migration
No wars
Stable economy
Near energy independence

These are pretty important issues.

Again ... there is corruption on both sides .. and if you don't think so you are deceiving yourself. Pick your poison.

Harris is being selected ... not elected ... democratic voters are not being allowed to vote for who they want for their nominee for President .... this should be concerning to them ... doing it this way is not democracy

Democrats accept the Trump verdicts were accurate ... republicans believe they are sham charges (law fare - election interference) ... either can be true.

Lots of things for people to try and discern for themselves and will vote accordingly ... we will see how it all plays out.

Trump does outline his policies here ....

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform
 
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You do not get it yet politics is a game and illusion. Do you really think either one of these clowns or parties actually care about you. It is all about the power.

If you think it'll make a difference vote, but keep in mind that for as long as you have a brain, a faith in God and a passion for something, the power will always belong to you, regardless of the administration.

The mistakes, the successes, the wins the loses, are for you to roll with.

I know you already know this.
 
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This is a HUGE problem!

Trump is a convicted felon.
He still has many open indictments for more felonies.
Trump speaks in terms of vague slogans (such as "I will fix everything..."), but does not seem to have any real policies.

Some topics that immediately come to mind to me, are...

1 Why would he be addressing "Christians"?
Why not address ALL American citizens who are eligible to vote?

2 Why does Trump not understand, that his lifestyle and choices disqualify him
from being some representative of orthodox Christians, in the government?
Trump is not a Protestant Christian. He has threatened judges and their families,
and suggested that the lynching of Nancy Pelosi and Mike Pence (outside the due
process of law) was the right thing to do. This is not Christian behavior.
Biden was not a Catholic Christian (not given how he supported abortion).

3 Would any local Christian congregation hire Trump to be their pastor?
This is a ridiculous concept. Who would trust Trump to even be their financial
advisor?

4 Why does Trump continue to NOT HAVE any specific policies, that he is running on?
Why this continual reference to "solving everything"?
Trump denied that the 2025 Plan was his outline of his policies,
even though this 900 page document fills out in quite a bit of detail how Trump
would seek to use legislation and the presidential powers to carry out his "slogans".

Why does Trump continue to deny that this 2025 Plan, written by his close former advisors
and friends, does not really flesh out his policies? This Plan includes the topics that Trump
has repeatedly asserted in past speeches.

If Trump has no specific policies, then he should be honest and say that.

If Trump's specific policies are different than the 2025 Plan,
then he should lay them out in more detail before voters, instead of
asking Christians to "trust him". After all, Trump is rich enough to have
hired a thousand managers to write specific policies to carry out his
"slogans". By now, he should have had detailed policies to present
to American voters.
---------- ----------

It is disturbing to see this candidate for president, who has been convicted
of 34 felonies for financial fraud and trying to deceive American voters
as to his bad character, appealing to "Christians" to trust him, to "fix everything".
Trump's history, says that he is untrustable, and is not at all concerned with
building up America.

Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, because in her overweening arrogance
near the end of the campaign, when she had a substantial lead over Trump, she
started to mock religious conservatives. She seem to think that all religious
conservatives are anti-intellectual hillbillies.

Now, Trump, with his 34 felony convictions, and his Tucker Carlson conspiracy
theories, and his vague slogans about "fixing everything", also seems to think
that religious conservatives in America are anti-intellectul hillbillies.

The Republican Party has no credible candidate for president of the United States.
There are many Christians who do not vote at all .... this statement was to them.
 
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You can't buy Love/God. That's why the greedy power-hungry corporate entities are still trying to deceive people into voting for the wrong person, using slander. Trump is claiming he only needs the gullible Christian vote this one last time.
Well, there are a lot of people in government who love money and power. How have both parties dealt with the greed of corporate entities? Remember the Occupy Wall Street movement vanished. Why would any politician want to do something they all invest in?
 
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If you think it'll make a difference vote, but keep in mind that for as long as you have a brain, a faith in God and a passion for something, the power will always belong to you, regardless of the administration.

The mistakes, the successes, the wins the loses, are for you to roll with.

I know you already know this.
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Faith in God have that and added extra bonus is landscapes to paint.
 
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Faith in God have that and added extra bonus is landscapes to paint.
That's a point, praying for sunshine at Richmond Upon Thames in a couple of weeks time for a friend's plein air paint out. We're looking to fire up a barbecue afterwards.

This great British summer hasn't been all it's cracked up to be.
 
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That's a point, praying for sunshine at Richmond Upon Thames in a couple of weeks time for a friend's plein air paint out. We're looking to fire up a barbecue afterwards.

This great British summer hasn't been all it's cracked up to be.
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Hope the weather comes through for yall. Here in Mississippi in the town i live in, we are hosting the Mississippi Plein air Paint The Town even in October 4 and 5. So getting ready for this in October

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