Is Trump playing the stockmarket?

[mindlight]

Trump’s Encouragement of Stock Investors Draws Scrutiny

Was the president manipulating the market with his comments, as his critics say, or reassuring Americans, as the White House maintains?

www.nytimes.com

At a time of intense deal negotiations with major world leaders - many of whom do not play by the book - who is profiting from the turmoil?

We all know that it is Trump making the final decision on the various national deals whatever the size of the team behind him, ironing out the details. What sweeteners have been thrown into the mix for Trump to agree to deals? What is he throwing his pals way? The potential for corruption here at this crucial moment in global trade history is enormous.

Why am I worried?

1) Look at the link above where Trump told his people to buy stocks hours before announcing the 90 day pause on sanctions. The stock market rose in response.
2) This president was convicted of Fraud, so we know how he plays the lines between righteous and unrighteous trading and regards the legal system as a tool, not a guide to right and wrong. He has also made very clear his contempt for the international rule book. His Art of the Deal has little to do with honesty and is all about results.
3) A volatile market in which rises and falls occur frequently can be immensely profitable if you have the inside track on what is going to happen. Trump is driving the markets here not the other way around.

Who is getting rich from these troubles? What is their connection to Trump?

 

[Goonie]

Exactly.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

If the President tells people to buy stock when his actions caused the prices to drop and then the markets recovered and stock prices rose also because of his actions, then as long as he was fulfilling his duties and responsibilities as the overwhelming landslide elected President of the United States, no laws can be broken and no insider trading can take place. That is the benefit of living in a Democracy where the rule of law is followed and respected. Other countries can learn from our example.

 

[Jermayn]

Trump’s Encouragement of Stock Investors Draws Scrutiny

Was the president manipulating the market with his comments, as his critics say, or reassuring Americans, as the White House maintains?

www.nytimes.com

At a time of intense deal negotiations with major world leaders - many of whom do not play by the book - who is profiting from the turmoil?

We all know that it is Trump making the final decision on the various national deals whatever the size of the team behind him, ironing out the details. What sweeteners have been thrown into the mix for Trump to agree to deals? What is he throwing his pals way? The potential for corruption here at this crucial moment in global trade history is enormous.

Why am I worried?

1) Look at the link above where Trump told his people to buy stocks hours before announcing the 90 day pause on sanctions. The stock market rose in response.
2) This president was convicted of Fraud, so we know how he plays the lines between righteous and unrighteous trading and regards the legal system as a tool, not a guide to right and wrong. He has also made very clear his contempt for the international rule book. His Art of the Deal has little to do with honesty and is all about results.
3) A volatile market in which rises and falls occur frequently can be immensely profitable if you have the inside track on what is going to happen. Trump is driving the markets here not the other way around.

Who is getting rich from these troubles? What is their connection to Trump?

Well, he told everyone to buy stocks, not just his friends, so I guess that's not really against the law. If he was making some backroom deals or something then yes, that would be unlawful. We can only speculate about that part. During and right after COVID lockdowns we saw Demcrat and Republicans playing the system. Personally, I think elected leaders should be barred from purchasing stocks while they are serving.

 

[mindlight]

If the President tells people to buy stock when his actions caused the prices to drop and then the markets recovered and stock prices rose also because of his actions, then as long as he was fulfilling his duties and responsibilities as the overwhelming landslide elected President of the United States, no laws can be broken and no insider trading can take place. That is the benefit of living in a Democracy where the rule of law is followed and respected. Other countries can learn from our example.

How many Democrats have a Truth Social subscription? Who profits from people buying one or being on the platform?

Trump supporters are suggesting that this 90 day pause was part of a deliberate strategy all along. However that contradicts his comments which suggests that he climbed down in reaction to people getting yippy and to give time to deal with the negotiations that the rest of the world were now asking for.

Whether his decision was a reactive or planned one though he announced it only hours before he officially made it.

 

[mindlight]

Well, he told everyone to buy stocks, not just his friends, so I guess that's not really against the law. If he was making some backroom deals or something then yes, that would be unlawful. We can only speculate about that part. During and right after COVID lockdowns we saw Demcrat and Republicans playing the system. Personally, I think elected leaders should be barred from purchasing stocks while they are serving.

Time will tell what backroom deals will be made. Many of them have not been made yet. But there needs to be some transparency about this. In the meantime Trump has slipped in a 10% standard tariff on everyone while backing down from the larger numbers that he was threatening for everyone but China.

 

[Durham Cicero]

If the President tells people to buy stock when his actions caused the prices to drop and then the markets recovered and stock prices rose also because of his actions, then as long as he was fulfilling his duties and responsibilities as the overwhelming landslide elected President of the United States, no laws can be broken and no insider trading can take place. That is the benefit of living in a Democracy where the rule of law is followed and respected. Other countries can learn from our example.

I think you're missing something. The President aimlessly enacted policies that caused stocks to lose value, made an announcement to his followers that they should buy stocks, and then reversed the policies that caused the stocks to lose value. It would be quite different if Trump announced a plan, acted accordingly, stocks fell in value, and then organically recovered. His announcement to his followers in that scenario would have been a call for hope or faith in his plan. No such plan existed. No such organic changes in the market happened.

Also, on what planet did an "overwhelming landslide" happen? He didn't even get 50% of the votes.

 

[Goonie]

Time will tell what backroom deals will be made. Many of them have not been made yet. But there needs to be some transparency about this. In the meantime Trump has slipped in a 10% standard tariff on everyone while backing down from the larger numbers that he was threatening for everyone but China.

Yep thing to remember even with the climb down these are the worst tariffs since the 1930s. With his constant u-turns he is destroying business investment.

 

[FireDragon76]

I have thought about that, but I think Trump is too demented to engage in the kind of high order thinking capable of carrying out even a simple pump and dump scheme. I think it's more likely he over-leveraged American power and tried to bully other countries into giving him personal concessions, not realizing he's already alienated most of the planet and has no cards left to play.

 

[Say it aint so]

His Truth Social tweet yesterday: THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!! DJT.
Yes, DJT is his stock.

 

[essentialsaltes]

His Truth Social tweet yesterday: THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!! DJT.
Yes, DJT is his stock.

And many of his followers think he's sending secret messages. This one ain't so secret. DJT climbed briefly back above $20 yesterday.

And DJT filed the paperwork that allows him to sell his DJT just a few days ago.

Stepping back, having advance notice of huge swings (either up or down) in the market is a way to make some serious money at the expense of everyone else. With the lax ethics standards of Trump 2.0, we may never know who's getting rich off 'insider trading'.

 

[loveofourlord]

except now the stock market is tanking again.

 

[Say it aint so]

And many of his followers think he's sending secret messages. This one ain't so secret. DJT climbed briefly back above $20 yesterday.

And DJT filed the paperwork that allows him to sell his DJT just a few days ago.

Stepping back, having advance notice of huge swings (either up or down) in the market is a way to make some serious money at the expense of everyone else. With the lax ethics standards of Trump 2.0, we may never know who's getting rich off 'insider trading'.

The Biden Trump crime family.

 

[mindlight]

One named Republican donor who made billions from Trumps tip was Charles Schwab

US senators call for insider trading probe into Trump over tariff pause

WASHINGTON: Several US senators have called for an investigation into whether President Donald Trump engaged in insider trading or market manipulation by encour

www.newindianexpress.com

 

[Say it aint so]

As peoples 401ks get hammered, just like he did last term after the Tax Cut No Jobs Act, Trump brags to millionaires they just got richer.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

I think you're missing something. The President aimlessly enacted policies that caused stocks to lose value, made an announcement to his followers that they should buy stocks, and then reversed the policies that caused the stocks to lose value. It would be quite different if Trump announced a plan, acted accordingly, stocks fell in value, and then organically recovered. His announcement to his followers in that scenario would have been a call for hope or faith in his plan. No such plan existed. No such organic changes in the market happened.

Also, on what planet did an "overwhelming landslide" happen? He didn't even get 50% of the votes.

FYI since you're new here - Aryeh is our resident Poe. Pretty much anything he says should be read with tongue firmly in cheek.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

FYI since you're new here - Aryeh is our resident Poe. Pretty much anything he says should be read with tongue firmly in cheek.

While the views and opinions expressed by this aryeh person may not be held by said person, they are actual views and opinions expressed by others around this aryeh person on a daily basis.

The more you know.

 

[timewerx]

Market manipulation is illegal and is considered a criminal act.

What is Market Manipulation?

Stock market manipulation is a type of activity that is carried out in an attempt to interfere with the normal operation of financial markets.

kkc.com

I mentioned before in some threads that Trump and Elon may be profiting from the increased volatility from the Tariffs and they may be doing it intentionally to cause large price movements on the market.

We could be expecting Elon to be somewhat in a negative disposition from Tesla troubles, downward market trends, extreme volatility (similar trends in crypto) since Elon invests heavily and yet we see him seemingly positive with all the things going on. It only means one thing, he is profiting somehow from all this.

Even if you're doing automated trading, this is still market manipulation (if proven). Automated trading strategies can also make more profits from a highly volatile market with good risk management.

 

[rambot]

Well, he told everyone to buy stocks, not just his friends, so I guess that's not really against the law.

I'm not sure if there is an equivalent but I feel like that argument is akin to a "plausible deniability".


Seems like a DISASTROUS foreign policy to "Use markets to enrich billionaires and toss some pocket change at a lot of people"