The Stock Market Manipulator in Chief?

[essentialsaltes]

I'm going to fire Jerome Powell -900 points
I'm not going to fire Jerome Powell +1000 points

President Donald Trump said he had “no intention of firing” Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell on Tuesday.

The message is a stark change from just a day earlier, when Trump called Powell a “major loser” in a Truth Social post and hinted that he would fire him.

 

[Laodicean60]

I would say Jay Powell is the real manipulator-in-chief. Those who cried about people's 401 Ks aren't crying as much today because markets go up and down. But I've said that global economies are slowing for some time now, and you'll have another chance to bash Trump with the stock market in the future.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Stock market rallies after Treasury Secretary Bessent tells a closed-door investor summit that the tariff standoff with China is unsustainable​

The rally was triggered in part by remarks that Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent delivered at a closed-door investor summit hosted by J.P. Morgan in Washington, D.C. As first reported by Bloomberg, Bessent told the audience that he expected the tariff situation with China to de-escalate while characterizing the ongoing standoff as unsustainable.

 

[Richard T]

Only time will tell. For now, all we can do is speculate. Would like to know what everyone's idea of success looks like when this policy comes to fruition.

This policy will never come to fruition. The goalposts for success are not even well described. It is just ad hoc economic policy with an idea to gain more from USA trade that changes often in its implementation. The tariff revenues thus far too are well below estimates too.

I too think that most people do not get it. At 125% or even 30% tariff rates there is going to be very little trade with China. Even 10% with the rest of the world will cause trouble. I imagine too that many want Trump to fail. The depth and width of free trade and the world system is likely to bounce back with a vengeance, perhaps even helping to set up the end times. I am doubtful Trump can gain any traction that will last even during his own term and certainly not beyond.

 

[Postvieww]

This headline is interestingL

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-09/billionaires-score-best-ever-day-as-tariff-pause-jolts-market

I won't pay to read it. There is this:

Trump's tariff flip-flopping may have been to manipulate markets, Senator Elizabeth Warren calls for probe

Senator Elizabeth Warren has demanded a formal investigation into whether President Donald Trump manipulated the stock market to benefit his Wall Street donors, while working Americans and small businesses bore the brunt of the costs. Her call for scrutiny comes after a series of controversial...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

As US stocks were fluctuating on Wednesday morning, President Trump posted on Truth Social at 9:37 a.m.: "THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!! DJT."​

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Less than four hours later, he announced a 90-day pause on nearly all tariffs, a move that immediately sent the market soaring. By the end of trading, the S&P 500 had surged by 9.5%, recouping around $4 trillion in market value—roughly 70% of the losses sustained in the previous four days.​

I think it was manipulation. Those that gained probably lost some today because the market went back down some.

More liberal nonsense based in hatred of Trump.

 

[Pommer]

I would say Jay Powell is the real manipulator-in-chief.

That’s his actual job, though.

Those who cried about people's 401 Ks aren't crying as much today because markets go up and down.

Markets went down because President Trump threatened to add massive costs for doing business with America.

But I've said that global economies are slowing for some time now, and you'll have another chance to bash Trump with the stock market in the future.

Opining that President Trump seemingly made a boo-boo isn’t “bashing”.

 

[Laodicean60]

That’s his actual job, though.

No, his job is to manage monetary policy, but what he says can with spook, especially if he says something unexpected.

Markets went down because President Trump threatened to add massive costs for doing business with America.

Yes, markets went down because of uncertainty, and where is the doom and gloom today that everyone was talking about since April 9 and the crash? The market is down 2%. Oh, the world's falling apart! Did you give Trump kudos for bringing the market up?

Opining that President Trump seemingly made a boo-boo isn’t “bashing”.

The market has been going down since Feb 20, the OP is a mental manipulation that ignorant people believe, who opine that it's market manipulation, was on Apr 9. Do I have to show you guys a stock chart?

President Donald Trump on Monday ratcheted up his pressure campaign on Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell, calling him a “major loser” and warning that the U.S. economy could slow down unless interest rates are lowered immediately.

Powell knows economics.

Notice that prior to every recession (gray bars), the 2-year treasury investors are ahead of the Federal Reserve, sometimes by months, in lowering interest rates. The same thing is happening now. Trump is correct.

 

[wing2000]

No, his job is to manage monetary policy, but what he says can with spook, especially if he says something unexpected.

Yes, markets went down because of uncertainty, and where is the doom and gloom today that everyone was talking about since April 9 and the crash? The market is down 2%. Oh, the world's falling apart! Did you give Trump kudos for bringing the market up?


The market has been going down since Feb 20, the OP is a mental manipulation that ignorant people believe, who opine that it's market manipulation, was on Apr 9. Do I have to show you guys a stock chart?




Notice that prior to every recession (gray bars), the 2-year treasury investors are ahead of the Federal Reserve, sometimes by months, in lowering interest rates. The same thing is happening now. Trump is correct.
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LOL...recession is likely due to Trump's actions.

 

[Laodicean60]

LOL...recession is likely due to Trump's actions.

Lol, yes! The long-awaited recession was caused by the policies of the previous administration. Did we already forget the last year and a half of talks about the economy? Short memory in politics?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-01/6-reasons-why-a-us-recession-is-likely-and-coming-soon

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-12-22/recession-in-2024-there-was-no-downturn-in-2023-so-don-t-count-on-it-lqgz6cy9

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/25/recession-is-coming-pessimistic-corporate-cfos-say-cnbc-survey.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/25/recession-is-coming-pessimistic-corporate-cfos-say-cnbc-survey.html

 

[essentialsaltes]

Lol, yes! The long-awaited recession was caused by the policies of the previous administration. Did we already forget the last year and a half of talks about the economy? Short memory in politics?

There was a lot of talk of recession in the post-pandemic hangover, but the Triumph of Bidenomics was that the Fed skillfully navigated the US to a 'soft landing' bringing down inflation without a recession. You'll see your relevant stories are from 2023, not 'last year'. Last year, that recession forecast in 2023 didn't happen.

Inflation was caused largely by the spending-like-a-drunken-sailor stimulus that Trump and Biden had to do to keep the country afloat through the pandemic. The hard part is to stick the landing after cutting off the money.

America’s economy just achieved the rare feat of a soft landing​

“I think we should declare a soft landing now,” said James Bullard, former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, in an interview with CNN earlier this month.

He’s one of several economists and officials who told CNN the economy has finally pulled off that scenario, in which inflation is tamed without a recession — an exceptionally rare achievement.

US growth outpaces that of other advanced economies​

The International Monetary Fund expects US GDP to expand at an annualized 2.5% rate in the fourth quarter, higher than the IMF’s July forecast. That would be the strongest among the Group of Seven major advanced economies.

 

[Laodicean60]

There was a lot of talk of recession in the post-pandemic hangover, but the Triumph of Bidenomics was that the Fed skillfully navigated the US to a 'soft landing' bringing down inflation without a recession. You'll see your relevant stories are from 2023, not 'last year'. Last year, that recession forecast in 2023 didn't happen.

Did you forget the triumph of Bidenomics was part of the reason we have this guy?

 

[trophy33]

There was a lot of talk of recession in the post-pandemic hangover, but the Triumph of Bidenomics was that the Fed skillfully navigated the US to a 'soft landing' bringing down inflation without a recession. You'll see your relevant stories are from 2023, not 'last year'. Last year, that recession forecast in 2023 didn't happen.

Can the politically independent Fed policies be associated with "Bidenomics", though?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Did you forget the triumph of Bidenomics was part of the reason we have this guy?

I'm well aware of the perception many Americans had. We will see what they perceive under this guy.

 

[Laodicean60]

I'm well aware of the perception many Americans had. We will see what they perceive under this guy.

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Don't blame Trump, blame the DNC for allowing this to happen.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Can the politically independent Fed policies be associated with "Bidenomics", though?

Probably not, but sleepy Joe's sleepy hand on the tiller didn't harm the Fed's work, in contrast to the erratic tacking back and forth we see now.

 

[Laodicean60]

Can the politically independent Fed policies be associated with "Bidenomics", though?

Yes, the Fed had to step in because of fiscal policy-created inflation.

 

[wing2000]

Lol, yes! The long-awaited recession was caused by the policies of the previous administration. Did we already forget the last year and a half of talks about the economy? Short memory in politics?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-01/6-reasons-why-a-us-recession-is-likely-and-coming-soon

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-12-22/recession-in-2024-there-was-no-downturn-in-2023-so-don-t-count-on-it-lqgz6cy9

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/25/recession-is-coming-pessimistic-corporate-cfos-say-cnbc-survey.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/25/recession-is-coming-pessimistic-corporate-cfos-say-cnbc-survey.html

I have a very good memory. And I clearly remember everyone expected a recession in 2024....and we avoided it (largely due to the Federal Reserve's management).
Trump was handed a very healthy economy.
And what has he done?

1) Started a Trade War
2) Attached the Federal reserve
3) 10% decline in the Stock Market YTD
4) US Dollar in decline
5) Capital is exiting the US - Investors no longer trust the US

 

[Laodicean60]

I have a very good memory. And I clearly remember everyone expected a recession in 2024....and we avoided it (largely due to the Federal Reserve's management).

Really? The economy isn't a stock that goes up and down on a whim. There are a lot of economic indicators that point to weakening conditions, and those conditions don't magically change; and they have persisted into 2025.

Tell me how monetary policy prevented a recession.

 

[wing2000]

Really? The economy isn't a stock that goes up and down on a whim. There are a lot of economic indicators that point to weakening conditions, and those conditions don't magically change; and they have persisted into 2025.

Tell me how monetary policy prevented a recession.

Are you acknowledging a recession was averted in 2024?

 

[Laodicean60]

Are you acknowledging a recession was averted in 2024?

You answer my question first.