The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

[BCsenior]

Most churches today teach false doctrines for several reasons:
ignorance, unbelief, for popularity, for financial benefit, etc.
Only a few churches are teaching correct doctrine these days.
There is more to correct doctrine than “Jesus is Lord and Savior”.
Many Spirit-filled Christians are warning, “The church is fast asleep!”

Grace-only, cheap-grace, hyper-grace, easy-believism …
are all called antinomianism! This is the notion that a one-time
justification saves … apart from sanctification. But, this is an
incomplete understanding of God’s wonderful free gift of grace!

The problem with easy-believism is that it allows
those who are living in hypocrisy, disobedience, and sin
(i.e. those who are NOT walking in obedience)
to live comfortably with a false assurance of salvation!
This leads to the tragedy described in Matthew 7:21-23 (for example).

“… some ungodly people have wormed their way into your churches,
saying that God’s marvelous grace allows us to live immoral lives.
… they have denied our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” (Jude 4-5, NLT)

NOTE: We are talking here about believers who have received the Holy Spirit.

There are at least 10 NT verses for each of the following truths

Believers prove they have true saving faith:
1 -- by their obedience
2 -- by practicing righteousness
3 -- by living holy lives
4 -- by having a healthy fear of God
5 -- by repenting of their occasional sins
6 –- by overcoming sin, the world, Satan, persecution
7 –- by enduring in the faith to the end of their lives

Re: #4 … If people are believing and trusting in grace-only, cheap-grace,
hyper-grace, easy-believism, etc., HOW can they be fearing God?

So, all of these verses PROVE the road to eternal life is indeed narrow,
and believers are responsible for playing their part in their salvation!

Or, shall we view these verses as merely bluffs, exaggerations, lies even?

Initially, through His grace, God gives to new believers:
Jesus’ righteousness, redemption, reconciliation, etc. and salvation.
However, this grace/salvation is NOT guaranteed to last forever!
Because ONLY their old-past-former sins have been forgiven (2 Peter 1:9).
And because NT verses warn about the possibility of losing salvation.

Some believers became “estranged from Christ”
… they had “fallen from grace” (Galatians 5:4).

Some believers are “of those who draw back to perdition” (Hebrews 10:39).

And there are many more warning verses.

 

[HTacianas]

Most churches today teach false doctrines for several reasons:
ignorance, unbelief, for popularity, for financial benefit, etc.
Only a few churches are teaching correct doctrine these days.
There is more to correct doctrine than “Jesus is Lord and Savior”.
Many Spirit-filled Christians are warning, “The church is fast asleep!”

Grace-only, cheap-grace, hyper-grace, easy-believism …
are all called antinomianism! This is the notion that a one-time
justification saves … apart from sanctification. But, this is an
incomplete understanding of God’s wonderful free gift of grace!

The problem with easy-believism is that it allows
those who are living in hypocrisy, disobedience, and sin
(i.e. those who are NOT walking in obedience)
to live comfortably with a false assurance of salvation!
This leads to the tragedy described in Matthew 7:21-23 (for example).

“… some ungodly people have wormed their way into your churches,
saying that God’s marvelous grace allows us to live immoral lives.
… they have denied our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” (Jude 4-5, NLT)

NOTE: We are talking here about believers who have received the Holy Spirit.

There are at least 10 NT verses for each of the following truths

Believers prove they have true saving faith:
1 -- by their obedience
2 -- by practicing righteousness
3 -- by living holy lives
4 -- by having a healthy fear of God
5 -- by repenting of their occasional sins
6 –- by overcoming sin, the world, Satan, persecution
7 –- by enduring in the faith to the end of their lives

Re: #4 … If people are believing and trusting in grace-only, cheap-grace,
hyper-grace, easy-believism, etc., HOW can they be fearing God?

So, all of these verses PROVE the road to eternal life is indeed narrow,
and believers are responsible for playing their part in their salvation!

Or, shall we view these verses as merely bluffs, exaggerations, lies even?

Initially, through His grace, God gives to new believers:
Jesus’ righteousness, redemption, reconciliation, etc. and salvation.
However, this grace/salvation is NOT guaranteed to last forever!
Because ONLY their old-past-former sins have been forgiven (2 Peter 1:9).
And because NT verses warn about the possibility of losing salvation.

Some believers became “estranged from Christ”
… they had “fallen from grace” (Galatians 5:4).

Some believers are “of those who draw back to perdition” (Hebrews 10:39).

And there are many more warning verses.

We've been over that recently and far too many people here don't seem to get the message.

 

[BCsenior]

We've been over that recently and far too many people here don't seem to get the message.

I guess that's why the LORD wants it to be repeated ... it is critically important.

 

[HTacianas]

I guess that's why the LORD wants it to be repeated ... it is critically important.

I don't doubt that. But the Church's acceptance of its authority to forgive mortal sin has led nowadays to a repeat of the antinomianism of the first century.

Ecc 1:9 - That which has been is what will be,
That which is done is what will be done,
And there is nothing new under the sun.

 

[BCsenior]

... the Church's acceptance of its authority to forgive mortal sin ...

This is the crux of the problem ...
Scripture MUST be given priority over church doctrine,
and believers MUST "Wake Up" and believe Scripture!

 

[HTacianas]

This is the crux of the problem ...
Scripture MUST be given priority over church doctrine,
and believers MUST wake up and believe Scripture!

Well honestly, scripture teaches that any mortal sin committed after baptism leads to condemnation. But 1 Corinthians 11:29 solves the problem.

 

[jahel]

Well honestly, scripture teaches that any mortal sin committed after baptism leads to condemnation. But 1 Corinthians 11:29 solves the problem.

What is a mortal sin? What future sin will our mediator not cover at the throne of grace?

 

[HTacianas]

What is a mortal sin?

Generally, all those sins punishable by death under the law of Moses. Those a person could not be justified for under the law.

The earliest controversy in the Church involved the sins of murder, adultery, and idolatry.

 

[jahel]

Generally, all those sins punishable by death under the law of Moses. Those a person could not be justified for under the law.

The earliest controversy in the Church involved the sins of murder, adultery, and idolatry.

This is what I found:
However, as God's mercy and forgiveness is not bound by the Sacrament of Penance, under extraordinary circumstances a mortal sin can be remitted through perfect contrition, which is a human act that arises from a person's love of God.
Mortal sin - Wikipedia

 

[BCsenior]

What future sin will our mediator not cover at the throne of grace?

Try to view grace primarily as God's mercy upon SOME of the human race.
NONE deserve His grace because we are all sinners due to our sinful nature.
But, He has determined to save SOME.
SOME is much better than NONE.
The SOME saved will cause (in the future) ...
many to give great GLORY and Thanks to God.

But, man has to co-operate with the LORD's Plan of Salvation!
There's no such thing as an absolutely FREE ticket to heaven.

 

[jahel]

Try to view grace primarily as God's mercy upon SOME of the human race.
None deserve His grace because we are all sinners due to our sinful nature.
But, He has determined to save SOME.
SOME is much better than NONE.
The SOME should cause everyone to give great GLORY and Thanks to God.

But, man has to co-operate with His Plan of Salvation!
There's no such thing as an absolutely FREE ticket to heaven.

I don’t see limited grace taught in the bible, except for human willingness to accept it.

 

[BCsenior]

I don’t see limited grace taught in the bible, except for human willingness to accept it.

I suggest that you read the OP.

 

[BCsenior]

This is what I found:
However, as God's mercy and forgiveness is not bound by the Sacrament of Penance, under extraordinary circumstances a mortal sin can be remitted through perfect contrition, which is a human act that arises from a person's love of God.
Mortal sin - Wikipedia

I suggest that you forget all of the garbage taught in the churches.
They aren't responsible for your ultimate future destiny ... you are!

 

[HTacianas]

This is what I found:
However, as God's mercy and forgiveness is not bound by the Sacrament of Penance, under extraordinary circumstances a mortal sin can be remitted through perfect contrition, which is a human act that arises from a person's love of God.
Mortal sin - Wikipedia

That's "under extraordinary circumstances".

 

[jahel]

I suggest that you read the OP.

There is nothing that reconciliation at the throne of grace does not cover. That is ongoing repentance and why some can be forgiven at their death beds. ( but good luck to them if God is not reconciled because of their lack of love)

 

[jahel]

I suggest that you forget all of the garbage taught in the churches.
They aren't responsible for your ultimate future destiny ... you are!

That’s not what I was taught. But that is common knowledge.

 

[jahel]

That's "under extraordinary circumstances".

Which is between them and God, not the clergy.

 

[HTacianas]

Which is between them and God, not the clergy.

But it's the clergy that told you all of that.

 

[jahel]

But it's the clergy that told you all of that.

No it was Wiki

 

[BCsenior]

There is nothing that reconciliation at the throne of grace does not cover. That is ongoing repentance and why some can be forgiven at their death beds. ( but good luck to them if God is not reconciled because of their lack of love)

Dost thou insist on ignoring and/or rejecting CLEAR SCRIPTURAL WARNINGS?
Or ...
Dost thou insist on being deceived by the Churches' garbage?