so acording to trump everyone is now female.

[Larniavc]

hehe I didn't see a topic here for it, kind of the typtcal gaff by trump, but acording to him I'm now a female. Relevant section, see if you can notice the blooper.

(b) "Women" or "woman" and "girls" or "girl" shall mean adult and juvenile human females, respectively.

(c) "Men" or "man" and "boys" or "boy" shall mean adult and juvenile human males, respectively.

(d) "Female" means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.

(e) "Male" means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the small reproductive cell.

Crikey. I’m glad I live in the UK and can continue to be a fella.

 

[rjs330]

Crikey. I’m glad I live in the UK and can continue to be a fella.

I'm going start wearing dresses today. I'm so glad Trump clarified that for me.

 

[Belk]

I'm going start wearing dresses today. I'm so glad Trump clarified that for me.

Heck. I've been wearing skirts for decades.

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[Belk]

You know for all history of mankind we operated just fine with two sexes and no idea that chromosomes actually existed. Somehow we manged separating males from females. But now that we know chromosomal defects exist, now we are so confused. If you just leave it alone somehow we will be just fine, like we've always been.

Society also managed fine without making allowances for disabilities. We just got shoved into a legal grey zone. That we managed does not negate the very real issues people faced.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Do we have a link for this supposed action by our illustrious President?

Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism And Restoring Biological Truth To The Federal Government – The White House

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 7301 of title 5, United

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[SimplyMe]

Can people without legs use public restrooms?

-CryptoLutheran

That would depend on the restroom and what type of aids it has to help the person without legs. Typically they need extra handholds and supports, ones specifically built to hold their body weight and, a few decades ago before the accommodation laws requiring bathrooms to be handicapped accessible, it wasn't possible for a person without legs to use many, or likely most, public bathrooms.

So while the answer is largely yes today, or at least there are bathrooms that they can use in most buildings, it is because of the specialized laws that required buildings to be retrofitted (both entrances and bathrooms) to make it easy for the handicapped to access.

 

[DaisyDay]

How should Bostock vd Clayton County, Georgia, mentioned in the order, be interpreted now?

 

[BCP1928]

You know for all history of mankind we operated just fine with two sexes and no idea that chromosomes actually existed. Somehow we manged separating males from females. But now that we know chromosomal defects exist, now we are so confused. If you just leave it alone somehow we will be just fine, like we've always been.

Yes, and trans people have always existed and various cultures have dealt with them in various ways. Chromosomal defects, whether known about or not, have never come into it much.

 

[loveofourlord]

Wouldn't it be more accurate to label the sex of the developing person as "indeterminate"?

no because the female development does nothing, only the male development changes due to Y chromosone kicking in.

 

[essentialsaltes]

How should Bostock vd Clayton County, Georgia, mentioned in the order, be interpreted now?

IANAL, but it seems Bostock must be held strictly to only widen "discrimination on the basis of sex" to include gay and trans people for the purposes of Title VII on employment, but not Title IX on education.

(f) The prior Administration argued that the Supreme Court’s decision in Bostock v. Clayton County (2020), which addressed Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, requires gender identity-based access to single-sex spaces under, for example, Title IX of the Educational Amendments Act. This position is legally untenable and has harmed women. The Attorney General shall therefore immediately issue guidance to agencies to correct the misapplication of the Supreme Court’s decision in Bostock v. Clayton County (2020) to sex-based distinctions in agency activities. In addition, the Attorney General shall issue guidance and assist agencies in protecting sex-based distinctions, which are explicitly permitted under Constitutional and statutory precedent.

 

[BCP1928]

All in all, this is just one more small example of what happens when politicians try to legislate technical issues beyond their understanding..

 

[rjs330]

Heck. I've been wearing skirts for decades.

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The Scotts have been wearing those a lot longer.

 

[rjs330]

Society also managed fine without making allowances for disabilities. We just got shoved into a legal grey zone. That we managed does not negate the very real issues people faced.

I would argue that society didn't do just fine. Those with disabilities were left to begging in the streets and we missed out on some talented workers.

The recognition of male and female sexes up until 2016 hasn't really caused millions of people to beg in the streets or wander around with the inability to get a job etc. Heck, most of them didn't even know until they were teens or older. I'm sure there are still those out there who are adults and still don't know.

This isnt remotely the same thing as having missing limbs or being blind or deaf.

Are you calling it a disability?

 

[rjs330]

All in all, this is just one more small example of what happens when politicians try to legislate technical issues beyond their understanding..

Nah. They understand all right. After all it's the left who has been pushing this through rules and regulations and using political means to do so. We are just putting a stop to the silliness.

And returning to basic biology instead of some amorphous identity nonsense rhat isn't based upon anything but a feeling. Or even more heinous a ROGD, or autistic or a coping mechanism based upon other comorbities. Especially when dealing with children.

 

[Pommer]

To treat an actual physical condition or birth defect? Sure. But to mutilate a physically healthy human being to encourage their delusion? No.

No “religious circumcision”, got it.

 

[Belk]

I would argue that society didn't do just fine. Those with disabilities were left to begging in the streets and we missed out on some talented workers.

The recognition of male and female sexes up until 2016 hasn't really caused millions of people to beg in the streets or wander around with the inability to get a job etc. Heck, most of them didn't even know until they were teens or older. I'm sure there are still those out there who are adults and still don't know.

This isnt remotely the same thing as having missing limbs or being blind or deaf.

Are you calling it a disability?

No. I'm not calling it a disability. I'm saying that creating distinctions that do not take all cases or posable scenarios into account will lead to legal issues down the road.

Take as an example a person who is xx but presents as male. Can they sue a woman's only university for discrimination if they are bared entry?

 

[Belk]

The Scotts have been wearing those a lot longer.

Scots. But yes.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

No “religious circumcision”, got it.

Circumcision is necessary for health reasons. Like pulling out wisdom teeth.

 

[Pommer]

Circumcision is necessary for health reasons. Like pulling out wisdom teeth.

Mutilation is “okay” if there can be reasons you agree with?

Great, I think being transgender is a good reason..

 

[Chesterton]

no because the female development does nothing, only the male development changes due to Y chromosone kicking in.

The embryo shares characteristics with fish and birds. By your thinking, it would make sense to say a human is a fish until it becomes a human.