Respectful Question on Doctrinal Development

[ArmyMatt]

Greek also.

yep, St Porphyrios refused an audience with the Pope. he said it’d bear no good fruit unless the Pope repents and its better to pray.

 

[RileyG]

except He tells the Apostles they will be led into all truth. not some truth or as much as they can handle, but all of it.

and we do believe in doctrinal development until Pentecost. after Pentecost there is no more doctrinal development since God has perfectly revealed Himself in His Incarnate Son.

are you referring to doctrine ALONE and not liturgy and other traditions? After Pentecost nothing else could be revealed?

In other words, doctrine never changes

Is doctrine and dogma essentially the same?

Blessings

 

[RileyG]

put another way, in his book That They All Shall be Saved, he says that the God of the OT is not the Father of Christ, but actually a pagan storm god. that means he fundamentally disagrees with every Ecumenical Council since Constantinople I.

Nestorians aren’t even that bad.

Oh wow! That almost sounds like Gnosticism and NOT Christian! BIG YIKES!!!

 

[ArmyMatt]

are you referring to doctrine ALONE and not liturgy and other traditions? After Pentecost nothing else could be revealed?

correct. the articulation and praxis develops as the Church deals with heresy, new cultures, etc but the doctrine itself does not change.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Oh wow! That almost sounds like Gnosticism and NOT Christian! BIG YIKES!!!

Marcion 101

 

[RileyG]

Marcion 101

Yup. My thoughts exactly!

 

[RileyG]

correct. the articulation and praxis develops as the Church deals with heresy, new cultures, etc but the doctrine itself does not change.

Thank you, Father

 

[ArmyMatt]

Yup. My thoughts exactly!

yeah, very few Orthodox take him seriously with this stuff. to be fair, his apologetic works against New Atheism and his works on beauty are good, but when he tries to theologize it gets bad.

 

[ArmyMatt]

Thank you, Father

no problem!