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So you see the real garbage going on?
I never said that killing an innocent human being was just fine. My wife actually has counseled pregnant teens, and I wanted to point out that they were not superior haughty people.
I've never witnessed that myself.
There are plenty of couples who can't have children and would love to adopt a newborn. However, as I understand it, the maternal instinct doesn't actually kick in until the birthing of the baby, and then these young mothers don't want to let go of their babies.
No. She counsels for carrying to term. She talks with those who are contemplating abortion. She has never failed that I'm aware of. We sometimes have someone come to our house and it turns out to be one of those babies grown up, come to thank her.
You have some bias here. You don't approve of Biden's stance on abortion. But that's not the issue that I brought forward. The issue is what was Biden's intention when he made the sign of the cross. That's the focus. Read this below and take another look at the video with an open mind.
Sometimes, we simply misunderstand people.
I'm not a Lutheran and I'm not slithering around hiding it so cleverly. If you must know, the term Catholic literally means Universal; It's an all-encompassing term. I take that term literally and I didn't want to offend you or anyone else in this forum by implying it's only a label.
No. I can't declare who is in or outside the body of Christ. I just know the Church, his body, is in unity through the Holy Spirit, the True Image of God, His Christ.
I just don't like seeing people being deceived by propaganda and spreading propaganda.
I don't recall ever having been critical of people who don't defend Joe Biden. I've been critical of people who attack Biden unjustly. Bottom line is I defend facts, and when it comes down to prejudice, I defend positive prejudice.
I'm not a Lutheran. I'm a member of the Universal Church, the body of Christ in unity through the Holy Spirit. I believe every woman should carry a pregnancy to term because I truly believe she will be glad she had the baby. But try not to misread me just because I don't want to condemn anyone.
It's an identifiable Catholic practice.
So you concede that Joe makes the sign of the cross at a rally supporting abortion that he attended so as to support the intentions of the rally, mocking Desantis, who was just mentioned as having pushed for limits to abortion. Mocking Desantis and not mocking God. Asking God to what, protect us all from people like Desantis who would try to limit abortion? God protect abortion and God protect us from the likes of Desantis? That's the whole point of your posting in this thread? That and how we shouldn't judge Joe because judging is wrong? And then you judge anyway that Joe is mocking somebody?
We do, don't we.
OK. Not Lutheran. So you are back to being Catholic. Who is your bishop and are you in communion with him? You didn't answer that earlier. Do you accept the office of the papacy? Twice earlier you said you had real problems with that. Do you accept the Catechism of the Catholic Church? You didn't answer that earlier. Do you attend mass at least weekly? You have said you didn't, hanging out with the Lutherans instead. You can play your semantics all you want. It reminds me of an Orthodox guy who said he was really Catholic. But that Catholics were not Catholic because they were not Orthodox. Funny games with words. It's hard to take your words seriously.
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that when Joe makes the sign of the cross, the evidence conclusively shows that Biden is reacting to the statement, 'Where Ron Desantis felt like he needed to run for president'..., which was BEFORE it had been mentioned that Desantis wanted to push back limits to six weeks.
God will judge me according to what measure I use to judge others. Since the change in abortion restrictions had not yet been mentioned when he was motivated to make the sign of the cross, it would be presumptuous to say, but it indicates to me that he's joking.
Let me be clear about this. I believe a woman should carry to term because I truly believe she will be glad she had the baby. So, six weeks or fifteen weeks won't be any different to me according to my belief.
It's certainly not news that Biden has been a supporter of women's abortion rights since the eighties.
I wouldn't think Biden is asking for a blessing. In my opinion I think he's more or less joking.
This is simple, I believe that Jesus is the True Image of God sent by God. He is Lord and He is the head of the body of Christ. He is the True Image of the Father and the knowledge of God indwelling the soul testified to by The Holy Spirit. Those are all objective terms found in scripture and not subjective semantic wordplay. If you're asking me if I'm of Peter or Paul or Luther, I will say I am of Christ as are all who have partaken of the bread from heaven.
That could be a prayer of deprecation, God do ill to my enemies. Such prayers may have some limited application but most of us shouldn’t pray that way.
Good luck.
Then taking the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in vain.
Is that your only reason? That is the only reason you have repeated.
Might make some difference to some particular baby.
He did. Mocked God and the Church, and according to you mocked DeSantis.
As I said above, good luck with that. You have been judgmental so you take your chances.
He is the most rabid president we have had in that regard. Him being a Catholic that is a serious moral disconnect. As pope Francis often says, abortion is like hiring a mafia hit man. Joe is the mafia don of abortion. He is in need of fraternal correction in hopes of saving his soul.
When a Catholic makes the sign of the cross say when coming across an accident on the highway it is to bless the injured. When a Catholic makes the sign of the cross on entering a church it is to be blessed and attentive. When Joe makes the sign of the cross you judge he is joking. That in itself is a serious charge.
I asked if you were in communion with your bishop. No answer. I asked if you accepted the Catechism of the Catholic Church. No answer. You want us to consider you Catholic but by objective standards shared by all sorts of others you either won’t answer or your answers don’t match up. It may work in your own head just like it worked in the head of that Orthodox guy who said he was Catholic but the rest of us Catholics were not because we were not Orthodox. It’s fun with words. YMMV.
I informed you, that I partake of communion at a Lutheran church down the street. It's on the record.
I told you. I had an issue with the infallibility if the pope as the voice of God (The inquisition). It's on the record.
I didn't ask to be considered anything other than a member of the body of Christ, the son of God, in unity through the Holy Spirit. I use the word Catholic as meaning Universal, it's on the record.
I'm also on the record saying it's not my place to say who is in or outside of the body of Christ, so I'm not that guy. This is my last post on this thread.
