Preacher Beat At Funeral for "Fire & Brimstone" Message

[prophetess Glynis Bethel]

My name is Glynis Bethel, the wife of the fire-and-brimstone preacher
who got beat at a funeral by a mob for telling them that the man in the
casket (Lish Devan Taylor), my profane uncle, was in hell and if they
didn't repent, they would go to hell too because they were fornicators
and a lesbian was on the program to sing.

On November 21, 2002 the 3 men who beat the preacher (broke his nose diagnosed by a medical doctor) have been summoned to court on assault and battery charges.

Now certain local assembies are condeming us by saying what my husband did at a funeral was NOT in love.

Please give us your comments (with scripture references from the King James Version).

We have gotten calls from all over the world, had other ministers thanking us for being so BOLD, been featured on national radio programs, and local
television news. Also the producers of a national popular talk-show have contacted us to speak about "religion" on their program.

I love you and may GOD bless you.

(If you are a sinner, please pray:
Father GOD in the name of Jesus, I repent for my sins. I believe that
Jesus died and rose again. Please fill me with the gift of the Holy
Ghost with the sign of speaking with "new" tongues. In Jesus' name I
pray Amen. Acts 19)

 

[Inspired]

Can I ask where this happened at? I am trying to read up more on the story, but as of yet none of the news sites have anything about it.

 

[Brimshack]

That's the wonderful thing about the believe or burn proposition. It trumps any and all other ethical concerns. How could common decency and respect for the deceased possibly compete with the fires of Hell? And how could any of the concerns that others have expressed possibly compete with those flames? You have your excuse to show contempt and call it love, but feign surprise when a stunt calculated to arouse anger and outrage did just that. I hope your husband recovers nicely, but if that is what Christianity is all about, then I really must be more strenuous in my opposition to it.

 

[Lynn]

Originally posted by prophetess Glynis Bethel
My name is Glynis Bethel, the wife of the fire-and-brimstone preacher
who got beat at a funeral by a mob for telling them that the man in the
casket (Lish Devan Taylor), my profane uncle, was in hell and if they
didn't repent, they would go to hell too because they were fornicators
and a lesbian was on the program to sing.

On November 21, 2002 the 3 men who beat the preacher (broke his nose diagnosed by a medical doctor) have been summoned to court on assault and battery charges.

Now certain local assembies are condeming us by saying what my husband did at a funeral was NOT in love.

Please give us your comments (with scripture references from the King James Version).

We have gotten calls from all over the world, had other ministers thanking us for being so BOLD, been featured on national radio programs, and local
television news. Also the producers of a national popular talk-show have contacted us to speak about "religion" on their program.

I love you and may GOD bless you.

(If you are a sinner, please pray:
Father GOD in the name of Jesus, I repent for my sins. I believe that
Jesus died and rose again. Please fill me with the gift of the Holy
Ghost with the sign of speaking with "new" tongues. In Jesus' name I
pray Amen. Acts 19)

I did a Google search and came up with some interesting articles about this sad display.

I agree with those "certain local assemblies"....this was certainly not an expression of love

lynn

 

[Susan]

Originally posted by prophetess Glynis Bethel
My name is Glynis Bethel, the wife of the fire-and-brimstone preacher
who got beat at a funeral by a mob for telling them that the man in the
casket (Lish Devan Taylor), my profane uncle, was in hell and if they
didn't repent, they would go to hell too because they were fornicators
and a lesbian was on the program to sing.

We have gotten calls from all over the world, had other ministers thanking us for being so BOLD, been featured on national radio programs, and local
television news. Also the producers of a national popular talk-show have contacted us to speak about "religion" on their program.

I love you and may GOD bless you.

(If you are a sinner, please pray:
Father GOD in the name of Jesus, I repent for my sins. I believe that Jesus died and rose again. Please fill me with the gift of the Holy Ghost with the sign of speaking with "new" tongues. In Jesus' name I pray Amen. Acts 19)

 

Praise God for your boldness (although it needed to be a little more tempered with caring and compassion).

It was good that you took a stand.

 

[Extirpated Wildlife]

The problem lies in the fact that this doesn't reach the lost. So no, it wasn't in love. To reach the lost and blind you have to let them know you care about them first. Spend time with them. Give of yourself to them. If you do this there will be a time for you to share.

Now, I don't think its wrong to share your thoughts about whether you thought he might be in hell or not. then go on to share the love of Christ and what Christ came to do. But to basically point fingers when they probably feel like they are being ambushed is not the way to do it.

 

[Inspired]

Originally posted by Lynn
I did a Google search and came up with some interesting articles about this sad display.

I agree with those "certain local assemblies"....this was certainly not an expression of love

lynn

I did a search at google too but all I came up with was several posts about this at other Christians forums, but they didn't have links to the nws sites either, i was just wondering were it happened so I could check the local news station's website, surely they would have it.

 

[Morat]

Yes indeed. It was nice to see someone take a stand. Did your husband take the chance, while he was at the doctor, to tell dying AIDS patients they were hell bound? Perhaps find a gay funeral to picket at?

 

[PastorFreud]

While all of you are capable of finding this information on your own, I thought I would post one account of the incident below.

98% of the Christians out there are making the rest of us look bad.

Not only do I agree that this is not an expression of love, I believe this type of behaviour is against Christian faith and principles. Would some of you who like to tell others they are not Christians because of some point of disagreement about belief please come and comment on this behaviour?


06/26/02
By Gary McElroy
Staff Reporter
The Mobile Register
Mobile, Alabama

While Orlando Bethel vowed his battle against evil has only begun, one relative at the service said he believes Bethel set out to incite the grievers because he was bitter over a family land squabble.

The incident occurred June 14 at the Pine Grove Baptist Church in Loxley at the funeral of Lish Taylor, an uncle of Bethel's wife, Glynis.

Bethel claims Loxley police did nothing after "a mob" beat him.

"They said it was attempted murder," Loxley Police Chief Cliff Yetter said Tuesday. "It was a little scratch on his shoulder."

Yetter said Bethel's verbal assault "slandered the family of the deceased. ... He told them the man in the coffin was going to hell, calling them whoremongers."

Neither of the Bethels disagreed with claims that Orlando Bethel screamed out during the solemn gathering, condemning all to "a lake of fire."

He was only supposed to sing, Orlando Bethel admitted, "but the Holy Ghost told me to really speak the truth -- I said this man was no longer with us because he is in hell, that they needed to repent of their sins, there was a lesbian scheduled to sing, and there were fornicators.

"That was when I was dragged to the back of the church by several men," he said.

"He almost got killed," Glynis Bethel said. She said her husband was seriously injured and she later found him "balled up in an embryo position."

The Bethels said Tuesday that after getting nowhere with Loxley police, they went to the Baldwin County Sheriff's Department, where a warrant was issued for Glynis Bethel's brother, Lemuel Molden, one of the alleged attackers.

According to a sheriff's spokesman, no warrant had been issued by late Tuesday.

Molden said Tuesday his sister had been away from Alabama for years and returned to Loxley from Miami about a year ago to claim part of a 50-acre home site left to family members when their grandmother died.

The Bethels ended up with about an acre, Molden said.

"They wanted to acquire all of the property and make it some kind of retreat," Molden said. "It didn't pan out like they thought it would, and I guess they are a little bitter."

Molden said that after his uncle died, Orlando Bethel called and asked to sing at the funeral.

Molden now says he believes the request was "premeditated."

"My uncle didn't like Orlando," Molden said. He said Bethel would often "go down and pray for my uncle," only to be ordered out of the house.

"I think he was being revengeful," Molden said of Bethel.

Molden said that when Bethel began his harangue at the church, mourners froze in shock.

"After he sings, he grabs the mike and yells that Lish is burning in hell. He just screamed it out."

Molden said that when someone cut off the microphone, Bethel gestured to a young man to bring a bag down front.

It was then, Molden said, that people began leaving, fearing there were weapons in the bag.

"He pulls out a megaphone," Molden said. "We tried to get him out of the church. I asked him, 'Orlando, why are you doing this?'" Molden said.

Molden said that later the Bethels drove up to his home. Orlando Bethel began screaming about hell, and Glynis Bethel, while "speaking in tongues," sprinkled olive oil on Molden.

"I thought it was gasoline," Molden said.

Molden, although frustrated at his sister and her husband, expressed respect for their "persistence."

As if to confirm this, the couple said Tuesday the battle for the souls of relatives and other Loxley sinners was only beginning.

"We are going to get a parade permit," Glynis Bethel said.

 

[Susan]

Well, the secular media always misinterprets things. . .

 

[Extirpated Wildlife]

Glynis.....

 

[PastorFreud]

Susan....

 

 

[Susan]

I am not saying I agreed with the tactics or ideas. I am saying I admire such boldness in ANYONE.

 

[Inspired]

Originally posted by PastorFreud
While all of you are capable of finding this information on your own, I thought I would post one account of the incident below.

98% of the Christians out there are making the rest of us look bad.

Not only do I agree that this is not an expression of love, I believe this type of behaviour is against Christian faith and principles. Would some of you who like to tell others they are not Christians because of some point of disagreement about belief please come and comment on this behaviour?


06/26/02
By Gary McElroy
Staff Reporter
The Mobile Register
Mobile, Alabama

While Orlando Bethel vowed his battle against evil has only begun, one relative at the service said he believes Bethel set out to incite the grievers because he was bitter over a family land squabble.

The incident occurred June 14 at the Pine Grove Baptist Church in Loxley at the funeral of Lish Taylor, an uncle of Bethel's wife, Glynis.

Bethel claims Loxley police did nothing after "a mob" beat him.

"They said it was attempted murder," Loxley Police Chief Cliff Yetter said Tuesday. "It was a little scratch on his shoulder."

Yetter said Bethel's verbal assault "slandered the family of the deceased. ... He told them the man in the coffin was going to hell, calling them whoremongers."

Neither of the Bethels disagreed with claims that Orlando Bethel screamed out during the solemn gathering, condemning all to "a lake of fire."

He was only supposed to sing, Orlando Bethel admitted, "but the Holy Ghost told me to really speak the truth -- I said this man was no longer with us because he is in hell, that they needed to repent of their sins, there was a lesbian scheduled to sing, and there were fornicators.

"That was when I was dragged to the back of the church by several men," he said.

"He almost got killed," Glynis Bethel said. She said her husband was seriously injured and she later found him "balled up in an embryo position."

The Bethels said Tuesday that after getting nowhere with Loxley police, they went to the Baldwin County Sheriff's Department, where a warrant was issued for Glynis Bethel's brother, Lemuel Molden, one of the alleged attackers.

According to a sheriff's spokesman, no warrant had been issued by late Tuesday.

Molden said Tuesday his sister had been away from Alabama for years and returned to Loxley from Miami about a year ago to claim part of a 50-acre home site left to family members when their grandmother died.

The Bethels ended up with about an acre, Molden said.

"They wanted to acquire all of the property and make it some kind of retreat," Molden said. "It didn't pan out like they thought it would, and I guess they are a little bitter."

Molden said that after his uncle died, Orlando Bethel called and asked to sing at the funeral.

Molden now says he believes the request was "premeditated."

"My uncle didn't like Orlando," Molden said. He said Bethel would often "go down and pray for my uncle," only to be ordered out of the house.

"I think he was being revengeful," Molden said of Bethel.

Molden said that when Bethel began his harangue at the church, mourners froze in shock.

"After he sings, he grabs the mike and yells that Lish is burning in hell. He just screamed it out."

Molden said that when someone cut off the microphone, Bethel gestured to a young man to bring a bag down front.

It was then, Molden said, that people began leaving, fearing there were weapons in the bag.

"He pulls out a megaphone," Molden said. "We tried to get him out of the church. I asked him, 'Orlando, why are you doing this?'" Molden said.

Molden said that later the Bethels drove up to his home. Orlando Bethel began screaming about hell, and Glynis Bethel, while "speaking in tongues," sprinkled olive oil on Molden.

"I thought it was gasoline," Molden said.

Molden, although frustrated at his sister and her husband, expressed respect for their "persistence."

As if to confirm this, the couple said Tuesday the battle for the souls of relatives and other Loxley sinners was only beginning.

"We are going to get a parade permit," Glynis Bethel said.

Thanks Pastor that's why I was wondering if it was the same incident I am from Foley, 20 mins from Loxely. I just found out my friend who is an investigator in GulfShores is helping Loxely P.D. out on the case, so i guess I won't comment any further except to say from what I have heard of the case, the people feared for their lives.
Spuing hate and yelling at a crowd of morons, does not qualify as praying.
As of a week ago there was to be no media coverage of the trail for fear of more violence.

 

[PastorFreud]

Originally posted by Susan
I am not saying I agreed with the tactics or ideas. I am saying I admire such boldness in ANYONE.

Ok, I'll add you to the list of Ted Bundy admirers.

I DO NOT admire people who express hatred, jealousy, and bitterness (the whole land thing--follow the money) disguised as a "Christian" message of repentance.  And I DO NOT admire people who applaud such actions.  Being molded into the image of Christ precludes actions such as these.

 

[Inspired]

Originally posted by Susan
I am not saying I agreed with the tactics or ideas. I am saying I admire such boldness in ANYONE.

Jerry Falwell was pretty bold himself,but I don't go around supporting people who attends funerals with
"God hates ***s" picket signs either.

edited for profanity

 

[Susan]

I do NOT admire murderers. I admire people who boldly preach the Gospel. Although these persons tactics smelled worse than a skunk farm, they at least preached the Gospel, something few of us will ever do!

 

[Inspired]

Originally posted by Susan
I do NOT admire murderers. I admire people who boldly preach the Gospel. Although these persons tactics smelled worse than a skunk farm, they at least preached the Gospel, something few of us will ever do!

What part of the gospel tells you to go to a furneral and call someone a whoremonger?

 

[Susan]

I'm sorry everyone. I just thought this was another story distorted by the secular media, but after a little investigation (going to the website listed in prophetess's profile and looking at the profile itself) I now see that these are some very abberant people.

Sorry

 

[hraedisc]

The dead man is not in a burning place. He is dead in the grave. He awaits his resurrection, either "to live" or to "be condemned."

  Was it Jesus who said this?

LUKE 13:1-3 Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. Jesus answered, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.


REV 2:16, 21-23 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come, to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling... So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead.