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Perhaps people will suggest a good alternative, as it's annoying to juggle several Bibles in a small study space.

I would love a good, printed parallel Bible... ideally: KJV, NASB, ESV, NKJV.
Yet I've never seen one as such. (And yes, there are many differences between the KJV and NKJV.) Even a Protestant/Catholic KJV/Douay-Rheims would be an incredible one, as the DR carries many similar thoughts to the modern translations. Or perhaps an RSV/KJV.

Often I run across 'four version' editions. Where I am reading the Books included: KJV, yes. NIV, okay. NASB, yes. Message, cringe.

Or replace the Message for the NLT, or some other terribly paraphrased, 'dynamically' useless edition to me.
I'm able to paraphrase the KJV in modern language easily, it doesn't take another pointless copyrighted translation to do that... nor does it take a scholar.
 

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Yeah I understood, but it's really hard to find such a combination. I recommended those parallel Bibles because I have a parallel apocrypha by that editor, Kohlenberger, and it's really good:
I was looking for something preferably without the more modern paraphrases of the Message, New Living, New Century, et cetera.



An option would be that You print the entire Bible in several parts with the desired Bible versions on letter size paper, from a Bible Study software, and then have it bound in covers at lulu.com. The paper will be thick though. You will also have to ask for guidance on the forum of the Bible Study software how to export the parallel Bible to PDF or .docx. That would be the only possibility to get exactly the Bibles You want included and nothing else.



Here are more options:
http://www.amazon.com/New-Testament...qid=1395707510&sr=1-4&keywords=parallel+bible I haven't checked which site sells it at the cheapest price.
Whole Bible: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Pa...id=1395707711&sr=1-20&keywords=parallel+bible ... REB is a really good version.
 
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The Essential Parallel Bible has (for me) two completely unnecessary translations, being the NLT and Message.

I can't take those translations seriously, as I barely have much respect for gender-neutral editions. Anybody without an agenda should be able to read even the supposedly antiquated KJV or DR and interpret the core Biblical theme accordingly, to their specific gender. Instead the newer editions "relate" more and more (condescendingly of course) to what these new scholars consider to be the less intelligent status-quo.

Even unbelieving literary scholars (such as Bloom amongst others) uphold the KJV for it's literary integrity and translation... yet with all of this perpetual "dumbing down" in the newer translations... just what is next? It's too awful to imagine.
There will not be anything of any literary integrity coming from these modern, paraphrased hatchet-jobs; they are disposable, like much our current culture.
 
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... An option would be that You print the entire Bible in several parts with the desired Bible versions on letter size paper, from a Bible Study software, and then have it bound in covers at lulu.com. The paper will be thick though. You will also have to ask for guidance on the forum of the Bible Study software how to export the parallel Bible to PDF or .docx. That would be the only possibility to get exactly the Bibles You want included and nothing else. ...

You know, I have thought about that, and you are quite right.
It's what I was trying to avoid as I have spent much time being extremely finicky about typography, paper weights, and other graphic design paranoia.
Thanks for the suggestion, as it backs up what I was afraid I would have to do on my own.
And now, I guess I'll proceed to printing my own edition of the Bible...
time to withdraw from society in my graphic design "cell".
 
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I am thinking of releasing a parallel bible in the coming years as my own translation grows. It would be offered extremely cheap as either a Kindle book or printed edition through Amazon.

I want to put my translation side-by-side with other good, literal translations so people can see the possible differences in both form and content within several different, but good translations. And it would also be good if I could recoup a small fraction of the cost that I incur creating my own translation from scratch. :thumbsup:

The problem, of course, is that there are not very many translations that are either public domain, literal, or good. Unfortunately, if I want to avoid copyright issues, I have to use translations that are severely outdated. Of all the current possibilities, I've isolated the following as potential candidates:

- Rotherham's Emphasized Bible
- Webster's Revision of the Revised Edition
- the 1913 JPS Tanakh (a revision of the ASV)
- the ASV (an American English version of the Revised Edition)
- Lexham English Bible (free to print and sell if the content is less than 25% of the total work)

For their time, all of these were excellent works that incorporated the latest in scholarship, that were done either by renowned men or those with the kind of education required for the task, and are all quite literal. The Lexham, of course, is a recent translation with some very competent scholars at the helm.

Of course, by the time my translation is at the point where I can begin packaging it with others and offering it as a completed entity, the copyright to other good, literal translations may expire (beginning 2018 - woo-hoo!).
 
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Just go with the paper a provider such as lulu.com provides and be pleased with it:
I have spent much time being extremely finicky about typography, paper weights, and other graphic design paranoia.
... because it's not hard to use a multi-volume parallel Bible.



I think You should put some thought into which Bible versions to include, and also consider for example the 1971 RSV in the New Testament but some other version in the Old Testament, I would suggest either the 2008 New English Translation of the Septuagint or Robert Alter's translation. But the other versions You were thinking about could put there for the whole 66/(65?)- book Bible.

Also, consider leaving out Esther altogether as it was not found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, not even a tiny fragment.

Another suggestion for a Bible version would be the Comprehensive Bible (crossref). It's available digitally only through Accordance and was recently on a sale for $20 but is unlikely to go that low again as it was the first day of the 20-year anniversary celebration. But Accordance does have a 20% store-wide sale right now until April 9. 2014, but look for the coupon-code.
 
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Anybody without an agenda should be able to read even the supposedly antiquated KJV or DR and interpret the core Biblical theme accordingly, to their specific gender.

Not really.

It's actually quite important to know where the Greek text is being gender-neutral, and where it is not.

I would love a good, printed parallel Bible... ideally: KJV, NASB, ESV, NKJV.

There are lots. The Hendrickson Parallel Bible has KJV/NKJV/NIV/NLT, for example.

However, any good parallel Bible will have at least one more "dynamic" translation, just so that you can compare.

Even "The Message" -- I often wonder what Eugene Peterson was smoking when he translated a particular section, but I'm always interested in his handling of the passage.

As to the NIV -- I take issue with the handling of some verses, but it's in some ways more faithful to the Greek than the KJV, NASB, ESV, or NKJV. It's certainly not "dumbed down"

Of course, comparing versions often raises more questions than it answers, so you might be better off with just one version and a good commentary.

To pick a random verse:

1 Corinthians 6:15: οὐκ οἴδατε (Do you not know) ὅτι (that) τὰ σώματα ὑμῶν (your bodies) μέλη (parts/limbs/organs/members) Χριστοῦ (of Christ) ἐστιν; (are?) ἄρας οὖν ([shall] I take [away] then) τὰ μέλη (the parts/limbs/organs/members) τοῦ Χριστοῦ (of Christ) ποιήσω (do or make -- future or subjunctive) πόρνης (of a prostitute) μέλη; (parts/limbs/organs/members?) μὴ γένοιτο (emphatic negative using optative).

The ESV does a good solid job of translation with Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never!

Given the archaic use of "member," however, the NLT is quite correct to translate Don’t you realize that your bodies are actually parts of Christ? The Revised English Bible perhaps does even better justice to the word with limbs and organs. The NIV attempts to restore some of the colour missing from the English word "members" by translating of Christ himself.

The NIV probably also gains clarity with Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute?, and the use of unite for "make them members of" is justified by the Greek, especially in the context of the following verse.

The NASB may do better justice to ἄρας by translating take away.

However, the NASB is being hopelessly over-literal and clumsy with May it never be! as the emphatic negative. On the other hand, the KJV is too "dynamic" with God forbid. The ESV, NIV, and NLT probably make the right choice with Never! The Message is actually very clever to translate I should hope not, which is forceful, colloquial, and captures some of the literal sense of the optative.

None of the translations is perfect; most of them capture some aspect of the Greek that the others miss. None of them is particularly "dumbed down."
 
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I own the classic comparative parallel Bible. It contains the NIV11, KJV, NASB and Amplified. That's the best one I've come across. Unfortunately a parallel Bible with the main formal translations (NKJV, NASB, ESV) is unlikely to ever happen due to copyright holding issues and the collaboration it would take between publishers. The best alternatives is to use the Olive tree or Logos Bible apps which both have split screen features allowing you to make your own parallel. The Bible gateway website also allows you to read up to 8 translations side by side. As far as print versions go you'll be forced to aquire the versions separately. At least with that though you'll be able to get the features and format you prefer. Parallel Bibles typically contain small print, no cross references and no red letter. Cross references are a must for good exegetical study.
 
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theonlybridge said:
The Essential Parallel Bible has (for me) two completely unnecessary translations, being the NLT and Message. I can't take those translations seriously, as I barely have much respect for gender-neutral editions. Anybody without an agenda should be able to read even the supposedly antiquated KJV or DR and interpret the core Biblical theme accordingly, to their specific gender.
Why bother with the bible at all if you already know what it means?


Instead the newer editions "relate" more and more (condescendingly of course) to what these new scholars consider to be the less intelligent status-quo. Even unbelieving literary scholars (such as Bloom amongst others) uphold the KJV for it's literary integrity and translation... yet with all of this perpetual "dumbing down" in the newer translations... just what is next? It's too awful to imagine. There will not be anything of any literary integrity coming from these modern, paraphrased hatchet-jobs; they are disposable, like much our current culture.
Surely most of the point of a parallel bible is to give you different perspectives on the text.


Anyway, the way to go for customisable parallels is a good electronic version.
 
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