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Noem makes aggressive new move to ramp up arrests, deportations of illegal immigrants

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Are LEOs generally interchangeable like this?
There are multiple areas where help is needed and I'm sure there is a suitable role in which they can provide assistance that they are qualified for.
But generally speaking, yes
I helped the state police, ABC, DEA, FBI, ATF and Secret Service when I was in law enforcement
 
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There are multiple areas where help is needed and I'm sure there is a suitable role in which they can provide assistance that they are qualified for.
But generally speaking, yes
I helped the state police, ABC, DEA, FBI, ATF and Secret Service when I was in law enforcement
Excellent!
 
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How many agents carry guns? The ammo is probably for firearms training and qualifications
Honestly I don't know. What I do know is that article the poster referenced about Biden is from 2019, which means under Trump.
 
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"Under President Trump, the Department of Homeland Security will use every tool and resource available to secure our border and get criminal illegal aliens out of our country," Noem said in a statement. "The safety of American citizens comes first."

Government officials working hard for our country. What a refreshing change.

I understand that President Trump's priority is to deport criminal aliens. Do we know how many criminal alien has been deported in past 34 days?
 
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I understand that President Trump's priority is to deport criminal aliens. Do we know how many criminal alien has been deported in past 34 days?
If they came here illegally they are criminals. Criminal illegal alien is redundant
 
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I understand that President Trump's priority is to deport criminal aliens. Do we know how many criminal alien has been deported in past 34 days?
What we've been able to determine is that, as a proportion, aliens without a criminal conviction make up a larger portion of Trump's recent arrests than under Biden. [Or vice versa, that Biden's immigration arrests were 'more criminal' than Trump's.]

The Trump administration said it would focus on criminal migrants in its deportation efforts, but current figures challenge the assertion


[D]uring the fiscal year 2024, the Biden administration made 113,431 immigration arrests, and, of those, 28% were of people who had no criminal convictions or pending criminal charges.

According to new data analyzed by NBC News, 4,422 new migrants have been taken into custody in the first two weeks of February. From that number, the portion with no criminal conviction or pending criminal charges increased by more than 1,800 people, representing 41% of the total detainees.
 
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I understand that President Trump's priority is to deport criminal aliens. Do we know how many criminal alien has been deported in past 34 days?
We may hear at the end of the quarter.
 
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There are multiple areas where help is needed and I'm sure there is a suitable role in which they can provide assistance that they are qualified for.
But generally speaking, yes
I helped the state police, ABC, DEA, FBI, ATF and Secret Service when I was in law enforcement
Did you have to be deputized as part of a task force or was it a cooperative thing?
 
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Did you have to be deputized as part of a task force or was it a cooperative thing?
I was deputized in 5 counties when I was on the drug task force but to help the other agencies no.
I also made a lot of cases and turned them over to DEA and ATF.
You pretty much do all the work and if it's a solid case that they can't lose they will take it
 
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What we've been able to determine is that, as a proportion, aliens without a criminal conviction make up a larger portion of Trump's recent arrests than under Biden. [Or vice versa, that Biden's immigration arrests were 'more criminal' than Trump's.]
I posted a story earlier just this morning about NBC:#1 One should carefully consider the veracity of their commentary.
I also previously posted about the current policy, just as Tom Homan has elaborated in public many times, of arresting those who are with gang and cartel members. If a gang or cartel local headquarters is raided, and they arrest 8 young illegal men, but they can only find criminal convictions on five of them, they deport all eight. When they go into sanctuary cities, such as Boston, where they released child rapists into the population instead of turning them over to ICE, without local intelligence pinpointing the perpetrators ICE will have to make large sweeps of areas. It is extremely likely that in these situations an even high number of illegals with no convictions will be arrested and deported. ICE agents are sworn to uphold the Constitution and the law.
 
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We may hear at the end of the quarter.

There's no point in celebrating or criticizing the Trump administration's deportation efforts until we have the numbers. I'll wait until the end of the quarter.
 
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That never happened.
I'm afraid it did

The Essex County Superior Court ignored the immigration detainer against Fernando and released him on pre-trial conditions Oct. 6, 2022.


Local jurisdiction ignored ICE notification request and released the noncitizen from custody


ICE officials said that De Paz-Munoz was released on bail for the local charges despite the issuance of a detainer. ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations officers rearrested him on Nov. 12 in Great Barrington.
 
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I'm afraid it did

The Essex County Superior Court ignored the immigration detainer against Fernando and released him on pre-trial conditions Oct. 6, 2022.
That's not Boston. Not to mention that the SJC found a few years back that there is no law authorizing law enforcement to execute a civil arrest for removal proceedings. So as of now honoring a detained is illegal. Nothing to do with sanctuary policies.
 
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That's not Boston. Not to mention that the SJC found a few years back that there is no law authorizing law enforcement to execute a civil arrest for removal proceedings. So as of now honoring a detained is illegal. Nothing to do with sanctuary policies.
It is Boston and they were not asked to arrest anyone for removal, they asked them to hold them on ICE detainers, they had been arrested on other charges.
And they can hold prisoners with detainers it's just like holding someone who has a warrant in another county or state
This request that ICE makes to the local jail is known as an “immigration detainer” or “ICE hold.” Rather than releasing the person on bail or at the end of serving their sentence, the police will often continue to hold them so that ICE agents can come pick them up and take them to immigration detention.
They are not mandatory and police departments can ignore them which is what happened in Boston, but they are not illegal
 
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It is Boston
I must have missed when Boston annexed Essex county.
and they were not asked to arrest anyone for removal, they asked them to hold them on ICE detainers, they had been arrested on other charges.
They had been arrested for other things, but the whole point of a detainer is to continue detaining somebody once they are being released from the main reason they were being detained. That's still an arrest.
And they can hold prisoners with detainers it's just like holding someone who has a warrant in another county or state
No it's not. Detainers aren't warrants, so holding somebody at the request of one would be treated as a warrantless arrest, which are extremely limited under MA law.
This request that ICE makes to the local jail is known as an “immigration detainer” or “ICE hold.” Rather than releasing the person on bail or at the end of serving their sentence, the police will often continue to hold them so that ICE agents can come pick them up and take them to immigration detention.

They are not mandatory and police departments can ignore them which is what happened in Boston, but they are not illegal
No, they are indeed illegal in MA. I can even provide the case if you want.
 
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That's not Boston. Not to mention that the SJC found a few years back that there is no law authorizing law enforcement to execute a civil arrest for removal proceedings. So as of now honoring a detained is illegal. Nothing to do with sanctuary policies.
Here's a Newsweek story from last October:

He was arraigned in Middlesex County Superior Court on charges of aggravated rape of a child by force and rape of a child by force on September 4.
According to Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) Boston, officials at Middlesex County Superior Court "ignored ERO Boston's immigration detainer and released Hernandez-Rodas from custody on an unknown date."
 
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I must have missed when Boston annexed Essex county.

They had been arrested for other things, but the whole point of a detainer is to continue detaining somebody once they are being released from the main reason they were being detained. That's still an arrest.

No it's not. Detainers aren't warrants, so holding somebody at the request of one would be treated as a warrantless arrest, which are extremely limited under MA law.



No, they are indeed illegal in MA. I can even provide the case if you want.
That's great. So they just let child rapists go in MA. Good job by the MA SC
I don't understand people who think it's a good idea to release dangerous criminals into the public
Departments are worried about being sued by the criminals, their victims should sue
 
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