No English?—No Service!

[Ave Maria]

By show of hands, how many here honestly believe that a cheesesteak restaurant's 'English Only' policy, is really going to motivate people to learn English, especially when they can choose from a ton of other cheesesteak restaurants, all within walking distance from each other, all who do not have such a policy?

I can assure you that I certainly don't believe that.

 

[PETE_]

By show of hands, how many here honestly believe that a cheesesteak restaurant's 'English Only' policy, is really going to motivate people to learn English, especially when they can choose from a ton of other cheesesteak restaurants, all within walking distance from each other, all who do not have such a policy?

It will not but the idea should be adopted by more people if they really are wanting to do what is best for them

 

[TheBear]

IMO, this was a poor business decision.

 

[Allen12210000]

And what things are you wanting reversed?

A lot, but more on the topic, I was referring more to the so-called “discrimination” law-suit of national origins. I’m so sick and tired of minorities being able to cry “discrimination” whenever they don’t like a policy enacted by a white man that’s completely irrelevant to racism and racial or national discrimination.

You know what I’m talking about, right? If you don’t then think of Al Sharpton—what was the alleged case that made him famous, and was the case’s aftermath? If you don’t know what I’m talking about, then answer that question, and you’ll see what I mean.

 

[Allen12210000]

By show of hands, how many here honestly believe that a cheesesteak restaurant's 'English Only' policy, is really going to motivate people to learn English, especially when they can choose from a ton of other cheesesteak restaurants, all within walking distance from each other, all who do not have such a policy?

It isn't: I think that he's taking a stand because he strongly believes in conservativism. It will accomlish something: not minorities to learn English, but it'll motivate people with conservative ideals to stand up more often, just like he's doing.

 

[burrow_owl]

You said the sign has to do with national origins, but it clearly doesn't: it's denying service based on their language!

Common sense, the federal agency entrusted with enforcement, and the courts all tell us that language and national identity go hand in hand; discrimination based on the former can constitute discrimination based on the latter.

If you don't like that, perhaps you should petition your congressional delegation to change the law.

(for the record, I'd like to see just that)

 

[Arnold_Philips]

It isn't: I think that he's taking a stand because he strongly believes in conservativism. It will accomlish something: not minorities to learn English, but it'll motivate people with conservative ideals to stand up more often, just like he's doing.

And here I was thinking he just didn't like Mexicans.

 

[PETE_]

IMO, this was a poor business decision.

First of all this is only an issue because some english speaking person brought it up. The owner has clearly said everyone has found a wat to order even if it was to point, they try to serve everone. If you do not speak english you probably can't read english, so who is offended by a sign they can't read?

I don't think people who like the food will stop buying there, and the publicity he has gotten is tremendous. May work out good for them in the end.

 

[burrow_owl]

And here I was thinking he just didn't like Mexicans.

It couldn't be that. It must be that he's had a deluge of ASL spea....err, signers.

 

[TheBear]

It isn't: I think that he's taking a stand because he strongly believes in conservativism. It will accomlish something: not minorities to learn English, but it'll motivate people with conservative ideals to stand up more often, just like he's doing.

He needs to keep his politics out of his business if he's going to be competitive in the marketplace. He already lost the non-English speaking portion of his business. What's next? No gays allowed? No pro-choicers allowed. If he continues in this vein, he will only have conservatives as customers. And Pat's, Ishkabibble's and the other great cheesesteak restaurants in south Philly, will be more than happy to scoop up that portion of the market. Keep politics out of business. As a business owner, what goes into the cash register is what's important. Keep religion and politics out of it.

 

[burrow_owl]

He needs to keep his politics out of his business if he's going to be competitive in the marketplace.

This is based solely on a handful of blog posts, but isn't he known as something of a rabblerouser? Y'know, he's the "fiery local business guy" (like Bob Serpentini in Cleveland. Can I get an amen?). So I was thinking that might be his schtick or something.

 

[PETE_]

Common sense, the federal agency entrusted with enforcement, and the courts all tell us that language and national identity go hand in hand; discrimination based on the former can constitute discrimination based on the latter.

If you don't like that, perhaps you should petition your congressional delegation to change the law.

(for the record, I'd like to see just that)

language and national identity so hand in hand is a good point. This is America on the language is english. the discrimination is catering to one language(spanish) over all others. Just like you have to learn english to fly planes you have to learn english to be an American.

 

[TheBear]

This is based solely on a handful of blog posts, but isn't he known as something of a rabblerouser? Y'know, he's the "fiery local business guy" (like Bob Serpentini in Cleveland. Can I get an amen?). So I was thinking that might be his schtick or something.

If it's a marketing strategy, (which I doubt), he has failed. I for one, will never step foot in that place again. In addition to the many non-English speaking patrons he has lost, he has also lost many others who think like me.

From a business perspective, it's just bad all the way around.

 

[TheBear]

It seems there are quite a few on this forum who don't have a good sense of how business works. Politics and religion seem to overshadow all else. Those areas may work on the campaign trail or in the churches, but not in the business world.

 

[burrow_owl]

This is America on the language is english.

Just not the Queen's English, apparently.

 

[Allen12210000]

It couldn't be that. It must be that he's had a deluge of ASL spea....err, signers.

What makes you think I’m autistic?


I’m not asking that question out of anger, frustration or irritation: I’d really like to know.

It’s interesting—I mean: Although your intention may have been different, I take that as a compliment. Asperger syndrome, which, I think, is a sub-variant of autism, is a unique disorder; and I know people who have it.

 

[Qrusty]

What makes you think I’m autistic?


I’m not asking that question out of anger, frustration or irritation: I’d really like to know.

It’s interesting—I mean: Although your intention may have been different, I take that as a compliment. Asperger syndrome, which, I think, is a sub-variant of autism, is a unique disorder; and I know people who have it.

i don't think the thread...or the specific post was about you...




LATE EDIT...oye, maybe I got Asperger syndrome

 

[JPPT1974]

What makes you think I’m autistic?


I’m not asking that question out of anger, frustration or irritation: I’d really like to know.

It’s interesting—I mean: Although your intention may have been different, I take that as a compliment. Asperger syndrome, which, I think, is a sub-variant of autism, is a unique disorder; and I know people who have it.

I have asberger syndrome and even though I don't expect anybody to understand since it is something new and even though it was discovered you can say back in 1991, I found out about it in 1997.
You see, I thought that I was suffering from manic depression but now I am on medication.
BTW, one of my nephews suffers from autism.

 

[Caylin]

What makes you think I’m autistic?


I’m not asking that question out of anger, frustration or irritation: I’d really like to know.

It’s interesting—I mean: Although your intention may have been different, I take that as a compliment. Asperger syndrome, which, I think, is a sub-variant of autism, is a unique disorder; and I know people who have it.

ASL is american sign language...

 

[AnotherAlias]

The owner didn't really need to go the distance and put a sign up. He simply could have instructed his employees that whenever someone orders say a cheesesteak on wheat, without onions and extra green peppers...they can just give the customer a sandwich with extra onions, no peppers on white bread. In other words, botch the order completely.

It might give people incentive to learn how to order food in the language that employees understand.

Or, maybe the owner of the restaurant is going about it the wrong way. Perhaps, the government should obligate him to spend the extra money, to train his employees on how to understand several foreign languages. Then people that don't speak English can simply order their food in their own language.

Would that be accomodating enough?