• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • Christian Forums is looking to bring on new moderators to the CF Staff Team! If you have been an active member of CF for at least three months with 200 posts during that time, you're eligible to apply! This is a great way to give back to CF and keep the forums running smoothly! If you're interested, you can submit your application here!

Can you name something you appreciate about every religion you're aware of?

gord44

Well-Known Member
Nov 4, 2004
4,361
666
✟37,508.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Because God put the conscience into every soul. That does not mean that everyone will follow their conscience.

Also conscious's vary a great deal. Not everyone is the same. What seems immoral to one may not be to another.
 
Upvote 0

juvenissun

... and God saw that it was good.
Apr 5, 2007
25,449
804
72
Chicago
✟130,013.00
Country
United States
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
This is sad. Very sad. All faiths have some beauty in them, and all people have some beauty in them-- the two are insperiable.

Even if you follow the admonish of Paul and wish all men to come to Christ... if you cannot see the beauty in them, the portions of light and divinity they do have, what are you trying to save?

Beauty and beautiful, true.
But beauty does not necessary represent right.
It depends on what does one appreciate more, the beautifulness or the righteousness.
I can not appreciate much the beautifulness if the object is, evil.

Look at this from another angle, I do appreciate part of other religions which expresses the same concept/idea of my religion. For example, kindness or love etc. But I guess that is not what the OP asked for.
 
Upvote 0

juvenissun

... and God saw that it was good.
Apr 5, 2007
25,449
804
72
Chicago
✟130,013.00
Country
United States
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Because God put the conscience into every soul. That does not mean that everyone will follow their conscience.

That is the Christian way to see it. Other religions may have trouble to agree with this.
 
Upvote 0

Jane_Doe

Well-Known Member
Jun 12, 2015
6,658
1,043
116
✟107,821.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Look at this from another angle, I do appreciate part of other religions which expresses the same concept/idea of my religion. For example, kindness or love etc. But I guess that is not what the OP asked for.

The OP was to list something about other faiths you appreciate. Why don't you do that? Things like the love or kindness you mentioned here.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gxg (G²)
Upvote 0

juvenissun

... and God saw that it was good.
Apr 5, 2007
25,449
804
72
Chicago
✟130,013.00
Country
United States
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
The OP was to list something about other faiths you appreciate. Why don't you do that? Things like the love or kindness you mentioned here.

I can not.
What are right to them, are also right to me. So they are not worthwhile to mention. In most case, they belong to the general nature of human.
They do not have anything which is uniquely right. Everything unique to them is wrong to me. So I can not see any beauty of them.
For example, these are a beautiful art. But they are very wrong. So I can't appreciate it.
712WPSTMDjL._SY355_.jpg
jade%20buddha%20royal%20thai%20family.jpg
 
Upvote 0

Jane_Doe

Well-Known Member
Jun 12, 2015
6,658
1,043
116
✟107,821.00
Gender
Female
Faith
I can not.
What are right to them, are also right to me. So they are not worthwhile to mention. In most case, they belong to the general nature of human.
They do not have anything which is uniquely right. Everything unique to them is wrong to me. So I can not see any beauty of them.
For example, these are a beautiful art. But they are very wrong. So I can't appreciate it.
712WPSTMDjL._SY355_.jpg
jade%20buddha%20royal%20thai%20family.jpg

There wasn't anything in the OP that says you can't process the trait too. Just asking what you can appreciate in others. For example, I appreciate that Shinto believers are mindful of taking care of the Earth. That doesn't mean I'm mindful of taking care of the Earth too, or that I endorse all their beliefs. Simply that I can acknowledge that bit of Godliness they do have.

Does that make sense?
 
Upvote 0

juvenissun

... and God saw that it was good.
Apr 5, 2007
25,449
804
72
Chicago
✟130,013.00
Country
United States
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
There wasn't anything in the OP that says you can't process the trait too. Just asking what you can appreciate in others. For example, I appreciate that Shinto believers are mindful of taking care of the Earth. That doesn't mean I'm mindful of taking care of the Earth too, or that I endorse all their beliefs. Simply that I can acknowledge that bit of Godliness they do have.

Does that make sense?

Yes. However ...

For example, I appreciate the diligence of preaching doctrine to the public by Mormons. While I appreciate it, I also think the action is wrong in motivation. So, this makes me NOT be able to appreciate their diligence.

To the Shinto example, the idea of conservation is good. BUT the reason for them to conserve is because they think everything has the nature of deity. This totally destroy my appreciation to their custom.
 
Upvote 0

awitch

Retired from Christian Forums
Mar 31, 2008
8,508
3,134
New Jersey, USA
✟26,740.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Democrat
Yes. However ...

For example, I appreciate the diligence of preaching doctrine to the public by Mormons. While I appreciate it, I also think the action is wrong in motivation. So, this makes me NOT be able to appreciate their diligence.

To the Shinto example, the idea of conservation is good. BUT the reason for them to conserve is because they think everything has the nature of deity. This totally destroy my appreciation to their custom.

Sounds like you have a very lonely religion.
 
Upvote 0

Jane_Doe

Well-Known Member
Jun 12, 2015
6,658
1,043
116
✟107,821.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Yes. However ...

For example, I appreciate the diligence of preaching doctrine to the public by Mormons. While I appreciate it, I also think the action is wrong in motivation. So, this makes me NOT be able to appreciate their diligence.

To the Shinto example, the idea of conservation is good. BUT the reason for them to conserve is because they think everything has the nature of deity. This totally destroy my appreciation to their custom.

Do you appreciate the Taoist religion and it's concept of Yin & Yang? If not, you have a very strange avatar choice...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Chesterton
Upvote 0

Zoness

667, neighbor of the beast
Site Supporter
Jul 21, 2008
8,384
1,654
Illinois
✟490,929.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Married
Judaism: I appreciate their dedication to their culture, language an beliefs. I find the cultural persistence of the diaspora to be fascinating.

Islam: I appreciate their understanding of a "one" God and their formula of worship and architectural creativeness inspired by their perception of art re: The Quran.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jane_Doe
Upvote 0

juvenissun

... and God saw that it was good.
Apr 5, 2007
25,449
804
72
Chicago
✟130,013.00
Country
United States
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Do you appreciate the Taoist religion and it's concept of Yin & Yang? If not, you have a very strange avatar choice...

Yes, I appreciate it and I think it is beautify. BECAUSE the idea fits Christianity.
There are other ideas in different religions that also fit Christianity. However, it is not easy to express them in one paragraph or by one picture. This ying-yang logo is a very special case. It is extremely well designed. That is why I like it.

And, thanks for reminding me. The symbol for Buddhism is also beautiful. However, its meaning is not as complete as it could represent, and the emphasis is wrong.
Lotus-Flower-14K-Yellow-Gold-Pendant-P1211WPP.jpg
 
Upvote 0

GrowingSmaller

Muslm Humanist
Apr 18, 2010
7,424
346
✟56,999.00
Country
United Kingdom
Faith
Humanist
Marital Status
Private
Well I am a Muslim and it keeps me healthy. Very healthy I suppose.

I was a healthy Buddhist once, and left thinking "been there done that". To get back into Samsara.

Sometimes the faith is quite impressive inwardly, spiritual consolations, nice feelings etc, but even that can be boring at times, routine etc and the sense of adventure in life conflicts with tthe motivation to stay.

So I want sometimes to leave, but theres social and institutional pressure to stay put. Which, judging by the fact that "bless and do not curse" hit the air conditioning when I left Buddhism freely, and one of my friends has been known to advise on the virtues of special brew lager, then I feel I am better of being "kidnapped" by the Mujahideen. Persoanlly speaking.
 
Upvote 0

Jane_the_Bane

Gaia's godchild
Feb 11, 2004
19,359
3,426
✟175,833.00
Faith
Pagan
Marital Status
Legal Union (Other)
Politics
UK-Greens
Conscience is hardly a supernatural phenomenon. It's about as numinous and mystical as figuring out that biting your own hand hurts (and refraining from doing so is the best option). Morality is all about social behaviour: living in groups, and adopting cooperative strategies for survival.

Oh, sure, there's a lot of cultural baggage on top of that, but that's just mankind. We turn everything into a cultural artifact, even eating, sex, and sleeping.
 
Upvote 0

Gxg (G²)

Pilgrim/Monastic on the Road to God (Psalm 84:1-7)
Site Supporter
Jan 25, 2009
19,765
1,428
Good Ol' South...
Visit site
✟187,220.00
Faith
Oriental Orthodox
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Others
There wasn't anything in the OP that says you can't process the trait too. Just asking what you can appreciate in others. For example, I appreciate that Shinto believers are mindful of taking care of the Earth. That doesn't mean I'm mindful of taking care of the Earth too, or that I endorse all their beliefs. Simply that I can acknowledge that bit of Godliness they do have.
Precisely - and I do hope that can be kept in mind since the thread's focus was NOT on what you disagree on.
 
Upvote 0

grasping the after wind

That's grasping after the wind
Jan 18, 2010
19,458
6,355
Clarence Center NY USA
✟245,147.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Lutheran
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Conscience is hardly a supernatural phenomenon. It's about as numinous and mystical as figuring out that biting your own hand hurts (and refraining from doing so is the best option). Morality is all about social behaviour: living in groups, and adopting cooperative strategies for survival.

Oh, sure, there's a lot of cultural baggage on top of that, but that's just mankind. We turn everything into a cultural artifact, even eating, sex, and sleeping.

I agree. The fact that people act according to their conscience and do good things while belonging to a religion is not necessarily a quality of that religion. Those people might act the same way while believing in a completely different religion. So to say you appreciate some of the believers in a religion does not really equate with appreciating the religion. Nor would any art inspired by a religion really be appreciating the religion. It would be appreciating the skill of the artist which could have just as beautifully been put to use in a secular work or in a work inspired by a different religion or a person might be unskilled and produce garbage which no one would appreciate no matter the religion that inspires it. There are very few religions for which I can say I have a great appreciation for their belief system and that is what the religion is actually about not the artwork it inspires or the people that happen to believe in it by virtue of proximity.
 
Upvote 0

grasping the after wind

That's grasping after the wind
Jan 18, 2010
19,458
6,355
Clarence Center NY USA
✟245,147.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Lutheran
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Precisely - and I do hope that can be kept in mind since the thread's focus was NOT on what you disagree on.

Too bad for me , because there is so much about the initial OP that I disagree with.
 
Upvote 0

Chesterton

Whats So Funny bout Peace Love and Understanding
Site Supporter
May 24, 2008
25,931
21,413
Flatland
✟1,032,018.00
Faith
Eastern Orthodox
Marital Status
Single
Yes, I appreciate it and I think it is beautify. BECAUSE the idea fits Christianity.

I was going to mention earlier that if there'd never been the Christ, I could probably be a Taoist. Many parallels with Christianity. But Christ showed us He is "the Tao, the truth and the life".
 
Upvote 0

gord44

Well-Known Member
Nov 4, 2004
4,361
666
✟37,508.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
But Christ showed us He is "the Tao, the truth and the life".

I'll have to re-read some of the gospels. Never aligned Jesus with Taoist thought but worth examining. When I think of Wu Wei I don't think of Jesus.
 
Upvote 0