You most certainly can talk about a single president and the job he did. We do it all the time. Or at least used to.
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You most certainly can talk about a single president and the job he did. We do it all the time. Or at least used to.You can't talk about an election while ignoring one of the two candidates.
What about the ones full of vitriol that they lost. We have friendships and family members abandoned because someone voted for Trump. I personally know someone was so depressed they couldn’t get out of the house for weeks after the election. I have a liberal family member who is truly afraid Trump will round him up and put him in a camp. Now on Facebook locally we have liberals calling for everyone to put multiple tv’s in their house on channels other than the inauguration to hurt the ratings as a protest. This is not normal behavior from stable individuals it is irrational behavior as a result of gaslighting by the liberal machine.I've never seen a group of people so angry and full of vitriol that they won an election.
Someone should tell those people that's not how TV ratings work.Now on Facebook locally we have liberals calling for everyone to put multiple tv’s in their house on channels other than the inauguration to hurt the ratings as a protest.
Someone actually brought that up on the thread. I did point out this was irrational behavior.Someone should tell those people that's not how TV ratings work.
-- A2SG, just sayin'.....
I don't know if it could be considered irrational or not...but it does show these people, whoever they are, have no idea how TV ratings work.Someone actually brought that up on the thread. I did point out this was irrational behavior.
If the Trump administration shapes up the way he appears to want it to, then I think it will usher in a labor candidate. Whether that will be a Democratic party candidate or not is up to the Democrats.Great choice if four more years for Republicans is the goal!
Lots of those were indicted and convicted of their actions on 1/6 (with one particularly notable example as an exception), but that's really getting off topic for this thread.What about the ones full of vitriol that they lost.
I actually was speaking of the most recent election. I do realize it is tough for many liberals to let the past be the past.Lots of those were indicted and convicted of their actions on 1/6 (with one particularly notable example as an exception), but that's really getting off topic for this thread.
If the Trump administration shapes up the way he appears to want it to, then I think it will usher in a labor candidate. Whether that will be a Democratic party candidate or not is up to the Democrats.
I don't remember any of them rioting and attacking the US Capitol.I actually was speaking of the most recent election.
Someone gets it!Great choice if four more years for Republicans is the goal!
What about the ones full of vitriol that they lost. We have friendships and family members abandoned because someone voted for Trump. I personally know someone was so depressed they couldn’t get out of the house for weeks after the election. I have a liberal family member who is truly afraid Trump will round him up and put him in a camp. Now on Facebook locally we have liberals calling for everyone to put multiple tv’s in their house on channels other than the inauguration to hurt the ratings as a protest. This is not normal behavior from stable individuals it is irrational behavior as a result of gaslighting by the liberal machine.
I don't know what their policy is. Ideally, the basic policy should be to improve lot of the working class by increasing their labor market power.What do you mean by a Labor candidate? Are you suggesting that Democrats should adopt a similar policy to the Labor Party in the UK?
Someone gets it!
Sanders/AOC 2028 - let's promote it!
I don't know what their policy is. Ideally, the basic policy should be to improve lot of the working class by increasing their labor market power.
Labor law reform. The right to form unions has been weakened over the years by conservative policies. These rights should be restored. Labor law reform would also include resisting conservative attempts to weaken or eliminate child labor laws and other laws related to workplace safety. Verification of citizenship status for employees should be made mandatory. Single-payer health care should be established to remove access to health care from the control of the employer. Just off the top of my head, those would be the short term goals. Long term. better regulation of the financial sector and serious anti-trust efforts would also play a part.What policies should they adopt to increase labor market power?
Labor law reform. The right to form unions has been weakened over the years by conservative policies. These rights should be restored. Labor law reform would also include resisting conservative attempts to weaken or eliminate child labor laws and other laws related to workplace safety. Verification of citizenship status for employees should be made mandatory. Single-payer health care should be established to remove access to health care from the control of the employer. Just off the top of my head, those would be the short term goals. Long term. better regulation of the financial sector and serious anti-trust efforts would also play a part.
I think you are misinterpreting Trump's victory as a culture war victory. The swing vote he got from the working class had more to do with immigration and the economy than it did with "values."It may be necessary to reconsider and remove some of the euphemism. When Senator Sanders or the media say "Democrats lost working-class Americans," they really mean "Democrats lost rural WHITE voters."
Democrats didn't lose working-class voters: 80% of African Americans, 58% of Hispanic voters, and 60% of all immigrants voted for Democrats. They are as much a part of the working class as any other white American who works minimum wages.
Rural White Americans, regardless of education, profession, or faith, will not return to the Democratic Party because Democrats plan to restore labor laws.
They left the Democratic Party because they felt it no longer represented their values and way of life. They also disagreed with the party's immigration policies, believing that the increase in immigrants from non-white countries, whether legal or illegal, was changing the America they knew. Additionally, they were concerned about the Democratic Party's stance on broader immigration, globalization, and tolerance for non-traditional behaviors such as transgender lifestyle.
Rural White Americans view Democrats as hypocrites for promoting tolerance and inclusion while not tolerating conservative views on guns, faith, or their lifestyle.
Democrats will not win rural white voters with policies. Democrats may benefit from understanding why they lost support from 20% of African American voters, 42% of Hispanic voters, or 15% of young white men in the 2024 election.
In 2024, 80% of African American voters supported the Democratic party. Do you believe they are working-class voters?I think you are misinterpreting Trump's victory as a culture war victory. The swing vote he got from the working class had more to do with immigration and the economy than it did with "values."
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