Israel GOD'S time clock ?

[Dave L]

What you are implying though is that some here are false prophets. Please go back to my post #148 and respond to the questions.

If you have (1) priority question, ask it.

 

[Douggg]

If you have (1) priority question, ask it.

Dave if you don't want to respond that is okay with me.

 

[Dave L]

Dave if you don't want to respond that is okay with me.

I only wade through posts once.

 

[BABerean2]

But it means the 7 years would have to being in 2021.

Since the time of the judgment of the dead is in the verse below, we know the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order, and there is no 7 year tribulation period in the Bible. Instead, the book is a series of overlapping visions given to John on the Island of Patmos.

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.


Christ comes as a thief at Armageddon in the passage below, which once again proves the book is not in chronological order.

Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.


We also find the greatest earthquake in history in the same chapter.

Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
Rev 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

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[Douggg]

Since the time of the judgment of the dead is in the verse below, we know the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order, and there is no 7 year tribulation period in the Bible. Instead, the book is a series of overlapping visions given to John on the Island of Patmos.

I think we have been over this before. There is no 7 year tribulation period in the Bible. But there is the 7 year 70th week in the bible.

My chart features the critical path (the red line) of events for the 7 year 70th week.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

no you lost when you went to a personal attack "What are you in 3rd grade?"

So a person who just parrots everything I say, like a child does, wins an arguement in your opinion LOL? yeah, OK

 

[Dave L]

I think we have been over this before. There is no 7 year tribulation period in the Bible. But there is the 7 year 70th week in the bible.

My chart features the critical path (the red line) of events for the 7 year 70th week.

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"My eschatology objective is I try to understand the prophecies to put them all together into a start to finish scenario where everything fits together. That's the objective for me."

The problem is only a few prophecies were ever fulfilled as written. Whitelaw says something like 11 out of 94. Which means we do not know what a prophecy means until after fulfillment. Jesus says this too several places in the gospels. So when does a prophecy become a false prophecy after someone meddles with it?

 

[BABerean2]

I think we have been over this before. There is no 7 year tribulation period in the Bible. But there is the 7 year 70th week in the bible.

My chart features the critical path (the red line) of events for the 7 year 70th week.

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Based on Matthew 10:5-7, and Romans 1:16, and Galatians 1:14-18, the Gospel was taken "first" to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles.
This was the 70th week of Daniel during the first century.

Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel came to reveal to Daniel the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant? If not, the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 is the covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28.

(Dr. Kelly Varner explains below the covenant found in Daniel 9:27. It is posted here for those willing to receive what was written in the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.)
Daniel Chapter 9: Dr. Kelly Varner

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[Douggg]

Based on Matthew 10:5-7, and Romans 1:16, and Galatians 1:14-18, the Gospel was taken "first" to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles.
This was the 70th week of Daniel during the first century.

Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel came to reveal to Daniel the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant? If not, the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 is the covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28.

(Dr. Kelly Varner explains below the covenant found in Daniel 9:27. It is posted here for those willing to receive what was written in the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America.)
Daniel Chapter 9: Dr. Kelly Varner

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Is Israel, God's time clock? The subject of this thread. Not "new covenant" faith group video advertisement about their doctrine. You are not on topic about is Israel, God's time clock?

In the Olivet discourse verses, Jesus applies to Israel, (1) near term, (2) long term, and (3) in the latter days, end times. Yes, Israel is God's time clock.

 

[Douggg]

"My eschatology objective is I try to understand the prophecies to put them all together into a start to finish scenario where everything fits together. That's the objective for me."

The problem is only a few prophecies were ever fulfilled as written. Whitelaw says something like 11 out of 94. Which means we do not know what a prophecy means until after fulfillment. Jesus says this too several places in the gospels. So when does a prophecy become a false prophecy after someone meddles with it?

Dave, you are verring off on a separate philosophic subject matter. Open a new thread, with that subject matter as the topic, if it is that much of an interest to you. To me, it holds no interest.

 

[Dave L]

Dave, you are verring off on a separate philosophic subject matter. Open a new thread, with that subject matter as the topic, if it is that much of an interest to you. To me, it holds no interest.

I'm only saying you are no able to know prophecy details until after fulfillment.

 

[Dave L]

Is Israel, God's time clock? The subject of this thread. Not "new covenant" faith group video advertisement about their doctrine. You are not on topic about is Israel, God's time clock?

In the Olivet discourse verses, Jesus applies to Israel, (1) near term, (2) long term, and (3) in the latter days, end times. Yes, Israel is God's time clock.

One huge problem. Israel is the Church and the removed unbelievers are gentiles with Jewish customs.

 

[Douggg]

One huge problem. Israel is the Church and the removed unbelievers are gentiles with Jewish customs.

The huge problem with replacement theology doctrine is that the prophecies regarding Israel a nation again have been fulfilled. Israel is in the news every day.

Israel is God's time clock.

 

[Dave L]

The huge problem with replacement theology doctrine is that the prophecies regarding Israel a nation again have been fulfilled. Israel is in the news every day.

Israel is God's time clock.

Jesus says you cannot know the time.

 

[Douggg]

I'm only saying you are no able to know prophecy details until after fulfillment.

It appears to me, that replacement theology holders can not distinguish prophecy details, even after fulfillment. Israel a nation again.

 

[Douggg]

Jesus says you cannot know the time.

Be specific. Of what? You are veering off to another topic.

 

[Dave L]

It appears to me, that replacement theology holders can not distinguish prophecy details, even after fulfillment. Israel a nation again.

“For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.” Acts 3:22–23 (KJV 1900)

Notice it's Removal, not Replacement theology according to scripture.

 

[Dave L]

Be specific. Of what? You are veering off to another topic.

You have "God's time clock" that Jesus says does not work... in so many words.

 

[Douggg]

You have "God's time clock" that Jesus says does not work... in so many words.

Be specific. Jesus said learn a parable of the fig tree, which is definitely time clock specific, a particular generation. It is based on Israel, and Jerusalem in particular.

 

[Douggg]

Notice it's Removal, not Replacement theology according to scripture

You had wrote..."Israel is the Church". That is replacement theology, I think any rationale person would consider it as.

What both you and BAberean2 should do is start new threads to discuss positions, you and your faith groups hold.