Is God a sadist?

[razeontherock]

I want to be bothered, I want to doubt (who admires a follower who blindly agrees and does as told?), but I also would like to reconcile confusion with discovery of some kind.

Time for: if you aren't disturbed, you haven't been paying attention. Keeping one's ear to the ground, there is discovery to be made ...

 

[MattRose]

You also have this odd idea that G-d doesn't answer one prayer because He's answering another. Strange.

Still left with a child who will suffer until something other than God intervenes. Sadist behaviour by One who could fix it in a flash. Oh well, next topic.

 

[Montalban]

Still left with a child who will suffer until something other than God intervenes. Sadist behaviour by One who could fix it in a flash. Oh well, next topic.

No. You've not yet shown he enjoys it. But you keep on believing what you will. Personally I don't have enough faith to be an atheist

 

[Montalban]

Why do you think Frenchy's mom has mental illness?

He suggested that someone who forgives might have a mental illness when I presented the hypothetical of a mother who forgives him.

We were discussing God and his forgiving people of their sins, and using a mother who forgives him as an analogy.

He was saying that God had Narcissitic Personality Disorder when I was using his mother as an example of why God forgives here

 

[razeontherock]

Still left with a child who will suffer until something other than God intervenes. Sadist behaviour by One who could fix it in a flash. Oh well, next topic.

You have yet to show the mechanism by which He "fixes it," or to account for the fact He gave US dominion. IOW, your stance is not yet reasonable, but fantasy.

 

[pinkputter]

He suggested that someone who forgives might have a mental illness when I presented the hypothetical of a mother who forgives him.

We were discussing God and his forgiving people of their sins, and using a mother who forgives him as an analogy.

He was saying that God had Narcissitic Personality Disorder when I was using his mother as an example of why God forgives here

LOLLing @ the whole idea of God and Narcissism... umm... have you ever met narcissists in human form? They tend to be very selfish people and usually not too Christian. Believe me, I have a very narcissistic sister, we don't have much in common as her relationship with God is far from her priorities. If you understand it at all, you will see that actually knowing God usually guides you toward a healthier view of self (away from narcissism) and this is true for everyone bec we all have the tendencies, some A LOT more profound than others. There's actually a thread on here about how God, and having a relationship with Him, can solve pretty much every problem there is.

Now I guess the question I have now is, why would forgiving some one automatically make them Narcissist.

 

[Avelina777]

LOLLing @ the whole idea of God and Narcissism... umm... have you ever met narcissists in human form? They tend to be very selfish people and usually not too Christian. Believe me, I have a very narcissistic sister, we don't have much in common as her relationship with God is far from her priorities. If you understand it at all, you will see that actually knowing God usually guides you toward a healthier view of self (away from narcissism) and this is true for everyone bec we all have the tendencies, some A LOT more profound than others. There's actually a thread on here about how God, and having a relationship with Him, can solve pretty much every problem there is.

Now I guess the question I have now is, why would forgiving some one automatically make them Narcissist.

Agreed sister, and I obviously have no answer to that question...lol.

 

[Avelina777]

No. You've not yet shown he enjoys it. But you keep on believing what you will. Personally I don't have enough faith to be an atheist

Are you suggesting that atheist's have faith??

 

[razeontherock]

Now I guess the question I have now is, why would forgiving some one automatically make them Narcissist.

Frenchy - to the white courtesy phone

 

[Avelina777]

Frenchy - to the white courtesy phone

LOL

 

[MattRose]

No. You've not yet shown he enjoys it. But you keep on believing what you will. Personally I don't have enough faith to be an atheist

sadism:
1. a sexual perversion in which gratification is obtained by the infliction of physical or mental pain on others (as on a love object) — compare masochism
2 a : delight in cruelty b : excessive cruelty

I'll go with 2b and call it a day as we all know that God exhibits excessive cruelty and your only complaint (up until now) was that I didn't prove he enjoys it.

Unless of course, you were going with defintion 1. That would be a bit sick for this forum.

 

[Montalban]

Are you suggesting that atheist's have faith??

Absolutely. Their beliefs aren't based on rational thinking; one sees evidence of this here with the multitude of irrational argument given.

For instance none have shown that God enjoys suffering, but look how many pages we're into now?

Post #756 is an example; a classically muddled argument

 

[Montalban]

sadism:
1. a sexual perversion in which gratification is obtained by the infliction of physical or mental pain on others (as on a love object) — compare masochism
2 a : delight in cruelty b : excessive cruelty

I'll go with 2b and call it a day as we all know that God exhibits excessive cruelty and your only complaint (up until now) was that I didn't prove he enjoys it.

Unless of course, you were going with defintion 1. That would be a bit sick for this forum.

You're making the same mistake Frenchybearclaw made which I refuted.

You're confusing sadism with sadist

The question isn't "Is God a Sadism?"

A sadist is someone who enjoys sadism - the latter you've defined not the former

It's such a basic comprehension mistake made worse for the fact it's already been dealt with.

 

[Montalban]

LOLLing @ the whole idea of God and Narcissism... umm... have you ever met narcissists in human form? They tend to be very selfish people and usually not too Christian. Believe me, I have a very narcissistic sister, we don't have much in common as her relationship with God is far from her priorities. If you understand it at all, you will see that actually knowing God usually guides you toward a healthier view of self (away from narcissism) and this is true for everyone bec we all have the tendencies, some A LOT more profound than others. There's actually a thread on here about how God, and having a relationship with Him, can solve pretty much every problem there is.

Now I guess the question I have now is, why would forgiving some one automatically make them Narcissist.

Some people have a 'problem' with the notion that God loves them and is willing to forgive them.

I mentioned in a post above this that atheists offer muddled argument. They confuse things and are turned away from love because they have things backwards.

A mother's love, and her willingness to forgive shouldn't be viewed as a mental illness, but that's how hard hearts view things

 

[dazed]

Some people have a 'problem' with the notion that God loves them and is willing to forgive them.

I mentioned in a post above this that atheists offer muddled argument. They confuse things and are turned away from love because they have things backwards.

A mother's love, and her willingness to forgive shouldn't be viewed as a mental illness, but that's how hard hearts view things

You left out a few important things.

A mother's love, and her willingness to forgive and send her kids to eternal damnation if they don't believe that she visited them, briefly, in another form, shouldn't be viewed as a mental illness, but that's how hard hearts view things.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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