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Once again those two commandments cannot save, whether they are joined or not.
Of course sin is the real problem and we were already condemned before the law was given. God had already destroyed mankind way before Exodus 20.
Stop misleading people to help them keep God’s commandments, do you really hear what you are teaching people? You are teaching lawlessness. Without law, there is no need for grace or a Savior.
You seem confused here David. Gods law does not save anyone. It only gives us the knowledge of what sin is when we break them according to the scriptures in Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4 and James 2:10-11. Sin (breaking Gods' law or not believing and following Gods' Word) is the thing that will keep us out of God's kingdom according to the scriptures if we continue to live without repentance, confession and returning to God through faith *Hebrews 10:26-31; 1 John 1:9; 1 John 2:1-4. What is it here that you do not believe?
Not so much confused as I know the commandments off by heart.
Amen to that. No one was ever saved by the works of the law.
You appear to be wrong here.
That is not true either. Everyone sins, everyone is a transgressor. If salvation was dependent on our level of obedience to the law. Then obviously no one is saved.
Your quotations do not support what you said.
I teach Jesus Christ and love towards others, I have fulfilled everything the law demanded. I have the righteousness of Christ.
It was your application to God's law and God's grace I was referring to, not if you know Gods 10 commandments off by heart. This was already shown in the scriptures shared with you in the post you were quoting from.
Not really. According to the scriptures God's 10 commandments give us the knowledge of good (moral right doing) when obeyed and evil (moral wrong doing) when disobeyed; sin (moral wrong doing) when broken and righteousness (moral wrong doing) when obeyed *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Psalms 119:172 this is why Paul calls them Holy; just and good as they are the standard of moral right doing (good) and if broken sin (moral wrong doing. According to James if we break anyone of them including God's 4th commandment "seventh day" Sabbath we stand guilty before God of sin in James 2:10-11.
Your response here...
Read the scriptures provided in the post you micro-quoted and left out. It is absolutely true. I added the full section of the quote and the scriptures you left out. Perhaps you did not see them.
Your response...
The scriptures say exactly what they say. John says in 1 John 2:1 that the reason why John is writing is that we sin not. Sin is defined also by John in 1 John 3:4 as the transgression or the breaking of God's law agreeing with Paul in Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7 and James in James 2:10-11. This is why Jesus says unless we are born again to walk in God's Spirit we cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven *John 3:3-7 because those who are born again according to John do not practice sin *1 John 3:6-9 because they have been made free to walk in God's Spirit *Galatians 5:16.
No. Our sins are only forgiven and covered by the blood of Christ as we believe Gods' Word and follow what God's Word says. If we confess our sins and repent from them according to *1 John 1:9 and Acts of the Apostles 2:38 then we are covered by the blood of Christ. If we do not confess our sins and continue in known unrepentant sin we will die according to the scriptures *Romans 6:23; Romans 8:12 because we reject the gift of God's dear son and count the blood of the covenant an unholy thing doing despite to the Spirit of God's grace *Hebrews 10:26-31. We are not covered by the blood of Christ therefore to continue to practice known unrepentant sin.
No one wins if we do not believe and follow God's Word and continue in a life of known unrepentant sin once God gives us a knowledge of the truth of His Word and we reject Gods' Word in order to practice sin (breaking God's commandments) *Acts of the Apostles 17:30-31; Hebrews 10:26-31; 1 John 2:3-4; Hebrews 3 and Hebrews 4:1-12.
Commandments dont save anyone. They are a moral compass by which the standard of Good and Evil is weighed.
My Bible has a lot more commandments....
Israelites were His chose people. The one He gave the Sabbath command. He didn't give it to anyone else.
There is no truth in that statement.
He didn't say ten commandments. He gave Israel 613 commandments.
Would He have mercy on those who broke the commandment not to touch the Ark of the Covenant? That one must have been more important than coveting.
What was the command that Jesus gave us? 1Jn 3:19-24 will reveal what commandments Jn was referring, guess what, it wasn't the ten.
Which commandments?
All the commands found in the Royal Law of Love. Notice the one Ellen said had a "halo" around it is never once mentioned.
What about an eye for an eye, divorce, oaths ad love your enemies????????
Where did I fail to use scripture since you "noticed"? I will be glad to rectify any place I failed to do so. See all the scripture I make red and some that I even bold. Could it be that you wrote something that is not true?
Do you really believe Jesus was limiting the commandments just to the ten? Just a couple of verses down He mentions some from the oral commands God told Moses to write down. Wouldn't verse 19 mean every command God ever gave to man? Why is it your church ignores most all of the commands God ever made? I would think since the church has one foot in the old covenant that it would be teaching every command. According to verse 19 your church isn't the remnant, but just another church with some rules that make it unique and sound so important that some people fall for the bait.
According to your own theory about Matt 5:19 it is you that is breaking all the commandments. Oy! friend, what does it take to convince you old covenant ritual laws are not part of the new covenant? I certainly am not breaking laws that were never ever given to anyone except the Israelites.
Thanks for openly recognizing that fact. You are so fixated on the ten that I thought those were the only ones you knew about.
True, now you need to know which laws God gave to Israel are binding on Christians. We know that laws, we are able to categorize as being of a ritual nature, were only given to one nation, Israel. The weekly Sabbath was one of the ritual laws made only for Israel to keep. That is a fact, so since the Sabbath law is not binding on me it is not something I am accountable. Your church is telling you an untruth.
Interesting, but Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man. Mark 2:27. The Sabbath day will continue to be God's chosen day of worship, for those saved on the New Earth- Isaiah 66:23. I am pretty sure people with all types of nationalities will be saved because there is not Jews or Gentiles if you are one of God's people.
I don't think the world is sinless.
God told us the Sabbath is a day to keep holy. Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
An Adult lot of supposition and interpretation there Bob...if you don't mind please let the Bible speak for itself...where is that famous verse that says keep Sunday as the gentile Sabbath?
Hi Adam, I am beginning to wonder about you. You continue to make statements about me, but never identify anything. That is a poor way to debate my friend. I asked you to identify where I have committed all that you accuse me of doing, so I can amend my writing skills and you just ignore me. Your statements must just be your way of getting some wiggle room since you will not or cannot answer any of my questions.
Let's get something straight. If you think that I am going to defend Sunday as being any different than any other day you have another think coming. Your question is nothing but a rabbit trail. Let's stay on the subject.
Now that really is a "lot of supposition and interpretation" there Adam. Where do I go to check out if what you write is the truth
Remember your accusing me of not using scripture to back up my statements? Well, it looks like the pot calling the kettle black.Where did I state such a thing
So, since you are a Gentile, you are now in possession of the 613 laws that God gave Israel. Why are you NOT keeping themBoy!!! you hung me without a trial. What is it that made you get so worked up with something we have not discussed
I am Bob and Bob has not written one word about keeping Jesus' resurrection day Holy. I DO NOT KEEP SUNDAY HOLY, SO STOP YOUR ACCUSATIONS. Israel was the nation God gave days to be made Holy. Those laws were the words of the covenant. The new covenant does not have any Holy days connected with it. You have been sold a bill of goods. Looks like they did a splendid job.I get it, you are telling me, in a nice way, that I am going to Hell because I do not worship on a day that God gave to the Israelite nation and ended at Calvary where the new covenant took the place of the old one. Nice try, but you, thankfully, are not the judge.
They have you hook, line, and sinker reeled in and spreading all their falsehood. Funny thing Adam you are telling me something I have never read. God didn't worship on that first seventh-day, He RESTED. And Ex 20 was not the time the Sabbath was introduced. It was introduced soon after the Israelites passing through the Red Sea.
s. I even tripled my question marks, so you could not miss them.
Hi Adam, you `seem to have taken the role of tutor yet you have not given me anything to read or any reason to believe you have a true message. Why won't you share
