if not Biden then who

[JustOneWay]

but would Harris be a good choice if she has worse ratings than he does? In particular, sense she has been defending him up and down would she take the job without being forced to do so?

A dead Harris would be better than Trump.

Ratings are meaningless. Alan Lichtman knows this.

 

[dogs4thewin]

A dead Harris would be better than Trump.

Ratings are meaningless. Alan Lichtman knows this.

a person cannot run the country dead so I am unsure what that means?

 

[bèlla]

You mean if they ran president and vice president as you mentioned them as a duo?

Yes. They're well known and younger and we have a precedent on experience with Trump. He wasn't a politician.

~bella

 

[JustOneWay]

a person cannot run the country dead so I am unsure what that means?

It means exactly what it means. And yes, dead people have won elections.

 

[dogs4thewin]

It means exactly what it means. And yes, dead people have won elections.

but have dead people won elections when it is well-known they are dead? It is one thing for someone to win an election shortly after passing unexpectly it is another thing for people to vote for someone they know to have been deceased before the election. Again, a dead person run if they win cannot run the country.

 

[JustOneWay]

but have dead people won elections when it is well-known they are dead? It is one thing for someone to win an election shortly after passing unexpectly it is another thing for people to vote for someone hey know to have been deceased before he election. Again, a dead person rven if they win cannot run the country.

Take a minute to see past the literal words and understand what is meant when somebody says they would vote for a dead person over a disgraced criminal candidate. Maybe this would help. I would rather vote for Mickey Mouse over Trump.

 

[RoBo1988]

Andy Beshears. Onlyq Democratic official in Kentucky. 46. 65% approval rating.
Independents will love him. Young, honest, likeable, able to work with both sides.
Everything the felon is not.

I could even consider Beshears, and even if not, I don't think he's part of the "fundamental transformation" (read: destruction) the Obama's are so fond of.

 

[Laodicean60]

This late in the game if Biden either steps aside or the convention chooses someone else who would it be? I know that it would be Harris for the remainer of this term should it happen between now and Nov. 5th, but what about to replace him on the ballot?

Sadly, for this independent, the media won't show anyone else. I would like to see more on the debate stage.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

A big issue is the money Biden/Harris have collected for reelection will not be transferable to others. They could transfer $2000 of the 91 million they have on hand. But if Harris stayed in, she can use it all.

Couldn’t the president just invoke his “immunity” and say it’s for the good of the country to transfer all campaign funds to a new candidate? Maybe democrats should wise up and start playing by the GOPs made up rules.

 

[JustOneWay]

Couldn’t the president just invoke his “immunity” and say it’s for the good of the country to transfer all campaign funds to a new candidate? Maybe democrats should wise up and start playing by the GOPs made up rules.

Indeed. The president is no longer beholden to laws when he is now above the law.

I say he declare his opponent an enemy of the state and have him tossed in prison, then cancel the election and become a dictator on the last day.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Indeed. The president is no longer beholden to laws when he is now above the law.

I say he declare his opponent an enemy of the state and have him tossed in prison, then cancel the election and become a dictator on the last day.

He only needs to be a dictator for just one day -his last day in office.

 

[PloverWing]

Harris is the obvious replacement choice, if the president decided not to run for a second term. I'd vote for her.

As to guessing who would be the most popular among independents, Democrats unhappy with Biden, and Republicans unhappy with Trump -- I don't know how to play that guessing game. It's a weird world we're in, when the question is "Who's more popular than Trump?" rather than "Whose policies and qualifications do I like best?"

 

[Fantine]

It's a weird world we're in, when the question is "Who's more popular than Trump?" rather than "Whose policies and qualifications do I like best?"

Yes it is. When danger looms so menacingly you must think of defeating the threat as America's top priority.

 

[hislegacy]

A dead Harris would be better than Trump.

Ratings are meaningless. Alan Lichtman knows this.

INHO a dead monkey would be better than Biden and have more energy and cognitive ability.

How does either sentiment help the discussion?

 

[NxNW]

When you say no one really likes that option are you meaning the convention or the voters? Harris has awful ratings herself and so would they want to have someone who has ratings worse than the one they already have?

If we're entertaining this notion, then you should be aware that Harris polls a couple points higher than Biden; very close to Trump and within the margin of error.

 

[JSRG]

but have dead people won elections when it is well-known they are dead? It is one thing for someone to win an election shortly after passing unexpectly it is another thing for people to vote for someone they know to have been deceased before the election. Again, a dead person run if they win cannot run the country.

Oh, dead people have won elections when it was known they were dead. People voted for them anyway if they don't like their opponent, presumably on the theory that since a dead person can't serve, they'll just have another election and they can vote for someone they like more. Voting for them isn't specifically voting for the dead person so much as it is voting "do the election over".

This article gives several examples:

Full list of dead people who won their elections on Tuesday

The dead win elections more often than you think.

www.newsweek.com