Biden pardons son Hunter Biden ahead of exit from Oval Office

[KCfromNC]

Hello Rambot. If a person's likelihood of being convicted of a crime is diminished by their social connections then your justice system is broken.

This isn't a thread about Trump's prosecution being delayed due to him being elected.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Pardon the acute case of plagiarism:
I actually find this whole thread hilarious!

I LOVE how liberals find this kind of nepotism acceptable.

And by "this kind" I mean, done by a democrat......

Excluding only Nithavela it seems......

Bravo for him.....

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I clearly said I was disappointed too, actually…

 

[rambot]

Pardon the acute case of plagiarism:
I actually find this whole thread hilarious!

I LOVE how liberals find this kind of nepotism acceptable.

And by "this kind" I mean, done by a democrat......

It's only 1 example of nepotism though.

 

[Solo81]

Joe got his crackhead son on the Board of Directors in an Ukrainian Energy Company. Did anyone really think Joe would prosecute his son on these charges?

 

[lismore]

I clearly said I was disappointed too, actually…

Hello! Are you 'left' or 'liberal' leaning? (Just making conversation, you don't have to answer if it makes you feel uncomfortable). God Bless.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Hello! Are you 'left' or 'liberal' leaning? (Just making conversation, you don't have to answer if it makes you feel uncomfortable). God Bless.

I’m a left-leaning moderate, but as far as most of the populace here, I am regarded as a raging liberal.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

It doesn't mean anything anyways.

Biden Lied.

But my question is this:

Why should I care about it?

He lied? He's a politician...is that in some way breaking new ground?

I guess because it isn't Trump because if it was, you would be screaming bloody murder...because Biden is a politician he gets a pass? I will remember that when you are yelling about Trump this and Trump that...

 

[rambot]

I guess because it isn't Trump because if it was, you would be screaming bloody murder...because Biden is a politician he gets a pass? I will remember that when you are yelling about Trump this and Trump that...

This thread isn't about Trump.

Please stay on topic.

 

[Tinker Grey]

I clearly said I was disappointed too, actually…

I'm disappointed also. That disappointment would've been mitigated if he'd just come out and said, "I don't trust the next administration WRT my son, so I'm gonna make it just a little harder on them."

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I'm disappointed also. That disappointment would've been mitigated if he'd just come out and said, "I don't trust the next administration WRT my son, so I'm gonna make it just a little harder on them."

That is the motivation I think he had too, actually.

 

[Yarddog]

The announcement was made by the White House on Sunday night. The pardon applies to offenses against the U.S. that Hunter Biden "has committed or may have committed" from Jan. 1, 2014 to Dec. 1, 2024.

"Today, I signed a pardon for my son Hunter," Biden wrote in a statement. "From the day I took office, I said I would not interfere with the Justice Department’s decision-making, and I kept my word even as I have watched my son being selectively, and unfairly, prosecuted."

President Biden pardoning his son is a departure from his previous remarks to the media over the summer, declaring he would not pardon the first son.

"Yes," President Biden told ABC News when asked if he would rule out pardoning Hunter ahead of his guilty verdict in the gun case.

Days later, following a jury of Hunter’s peers finding him guilty of three felony firearm offenses, the president again said he would not pardon his son. ''

"I am not going to do anything," Biden said after Hunter was convicted. "I will abide by the jury’s decision."

Biden pardons son Hunter Biden ahead of exit from Oval Office

President Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden after he was convicted in a felony gun case and a separate felony tax case earlier this year.

www.foxnews.com

Surprise?

"May have committed?"

HUNTER BIDEN FOUND GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS IN GUN TRIAL

HUNTER BIDEN PLEADS GUILTY TO ALL NINE FEDERAL TAX CHARGES BROUGHT BY SPECIAL COUNSEL DAVID WEISS

Trump asks about 'J-6 Hostages' in response to Biden's pardon of Hunter: 'Such an abuse'​

"Does the Pardon given by Joe to Hunter include the J-6 Hostages, who have now been imprisoned for years?" Trump wrote. "Such an abuse and miscarriage of Justice!"

"The failed witch hunts against President Trump have proven that the Democrat-controlled DOJ and other radical prosecutors are guilty of weaponizing the justice system," Trump's incoming White House communications chief Steven Cheung said in a statement to Fox News.

Trump asks about 'J-6 Hostages' in response to Biden's pardon of Hunter: 'Such an abuse'

President-elect Trump asked about "J-6 Hostages" in his reaction to President Biden pardoning his son Hunter Biden.

www.foxnews.com

The J-6 convicts are not hostages. They are violent criminals.

Hunter Biden is a criminal but not violent. The Trump campaign convicts were criminals but not violent. There's little difference between them. Don't be a hypocrite.

 

[FreeinChrist]

ADVISOR HAT

This thread had a clean up.

We are removed posts where Trump is called a "liar" in many threads at the complaint of his supporters. Therefore, it is not okay to call Biden a "liar". You can say that each have lied, but not call them the name.

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[Hans Blaster]

This isn't really a "change your position in light of new information" sort of thing is it? (with regards to whether not you're deciding to pardon your own family member)

Biden's own statement doesn't make it seem as if this was the result of new information, the statement he released was:
"No reasonable person who looks at the facts of Hunter's cases can reach any other conclusion than Hunter was singled out only because he is my son—and that is wrong."

That hasn't changed since this whole thing started.


If it was, then that would make things even more suspicious, because that means he learned something new/secret that sparked him to think "oh, I definitely need to make this case go away". That's an even worse look in my opinion.

I'll point out just one thing -- Trump and his allies don't seem to think the charging and prosecution of Hunter Biden is complete. There is the claim he was in contempt of congress (resolution does not seem to have been passed to trigger consideration by the DOJ) for making self available for a public hearing (that wasn't scheduled) instead of the private committee interrogation that was sloppily demanded. There is some question whether Hunter had improperly lobbied in violation of FARA. Then there is whatever "Biden Crime Family" fantasies a corrupt AG might extract from Hunter's "laptop".

Especially given the implications about what this could mean in the future for presidential family members.

The list of presidents that pardoned family members is a relatively short one.

Bill Clinton pardoned his half-brother, Trump pardoned his son-in-laws's father, and now Biden pardoned is son, I believe that's the only 3 in recent history unless I'm missing one.


But there is a key distinction here between Clinton's/Trump's pardons and Biden's

Clinton pardoned his half-brother on a drug charge, but that wasn't wildly out of step with the party's view, itself, as Democrats have long championed the cause of drug-law reform and ending the war on drugs and softening drug sentencing.

Trump pardoning someone for tax evasion and campaign finance laws isn't wildly out of step with the Republican talking points about taxes and campaign finance rules.

Biden's is at least somewhat unique in that it was pardoning something that his own party claims they want to "get tough on" which the aspect of guns/gun ownership.

...it'd be like if a republican pardoned a family who was running an illegal drag show.

Your posts would be shorter with out the whataboutism.

 

[Nithavela]

Pardon the acute case of plagiarism:
I actually find this whole thread hilarious!

I LOVE how liberals find this kind of nepotism acceptable.

And by "this kind" I mean, done by a democrat......

Excluding only Nithavela it seems......

Bravo for him.....

I don't know. Several known left-wing posters have agreed to my post. Tropical Wilds expressed disappointment. I think even among democrats, this isn't a hugely popular move.

I can even understand the move on a human level. A father protecting his son when he has the power is something anyone should be able to sympathise with. But on a political level, this is very unseemly.

 

[MrMoe]

Yeah, I know you guys don't want to look in the mirror.

"I really don't care, Do U?"

Who are "you guys" and who said that quote?

This thread is about Biden and him pardoning his criminal son despite claiming that he wouldn't. Try defending Biden without reverting to fallacies.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Who are "you guys"

Trump sycophants.

and who said that quote?

Really? You don't even know what your own people are saying? Maybe you should look that up.

This thread is about Biden and him pardoning his criminal son despite claiming that he wouldn't. Try defending Biden without reverting to fallacies.

I'm not defending Biden. I just don't care about it for the same reasons you guys don't care about anything Trump and his lackeys and minions have done in spades that you're criticizing others for and then crying that it's off topic when it's brought up. Why should I?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

This is a ridiculously bad look for Biden and the whole democratic party, and anyone who doesn't condemn this blatant abuse of power has no leg to stand on when it comes to criticising whatever pardons Trump will implement.

This whole presidential pardon business really must go, but neither party would remove it when they profit from it, much like all the other kinks in any political system.

It would also help if people in the U.S. could .................. just get along. But that's apparently too much to ask among all those who think a Revolutionary mindset is an answer to everyone's political and social ills.

On a personal note, I'm all for giving people a second chance. But they need to make good on that second shot at opportunity. There might not be a third given.

 

[chevyontheriver]

This is a ridiculously bad look for Biden and the whole democratic party, and anyone who doesn't condemn this blatant abuse of power has no leg to stand on when it comes to criticising whatever pardons Trump will implement.

This whole presidential pardon business really must go, but neither party would remove it when they profit from it, much like all the other kinks in any political system.

The presidential pardon thing is in itself fine. But it does show for all to see just what the character of the pardoner is.

 

[Postvieww]

Joe did it early, it saved his Son Hunter from showing up Dec 12 & 16 for sentencing

Trump needs a pardon on the guilty verdicts in Manhattan, Trump resigns 1 day before Jan 20th and he lets Vance pardon him, lol!

Not sure a President can pardon state charges.