Science PROVES the BIBLE is True

[joshua 1 9]

There is an overwhelming amount of rock solid science that proves the Bible is accurate and true. To be sure Science is limited in what Science can do. Still there is Overwhelming Scientific Evidence for the Bible. The problem is people that are perishing do not understand the Bible. They ALWAYS get it wrong. Because they are not born again then they have NOT been renewed in their mind and the CARNAL mind simply is not able to comprehend the Bible. The Bible is SPIRITUAL NOT CARNAL. The fact that they ALWAYS get it wrong is evidence in itself. Because if you are not FOR God then you are AGAINST God. That means you are an enemy of God. I have no idea why people would want to be an enemy of the God that is powerful enough to Create the Whole Universe. That does not even make any reasonable sense. We know that "the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness". Why would they want to subject themselves to the Wrath of God? For them to say there is NO evidence is simply absurd and that is a sign their mind is not functioning right. The Bible says they have a reprobate mind. We are told: “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;"

We see that their main objective is to suppress the truth. I am sure they get some sort of reward for their unrighteousness, "for a season". The meaning is injustice and God is a God of absolute and perfect justice. The Bible says the wages of sin is death. Of course they know they are going to die and perish so that is no surprise to them. Whatever pleasure or advantage they get for their wickedness now is going to be short lived. "Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season." Heb 11:24 Everyone gets to make this choice. God is willing to turn people over to a reprobate mind if that is what they want. He will not make that decision for them. This is a choice that each and every individual must make for themselves. We all make the choice: do we want a mind that is renewed in strength or do we want a reprobate mind? So even I give people huge, Huge, HUGE amounts of scientific evidence they are not able to accept or receive that evidence because of the reprobate mind they have and their propensity to suppress the truth.

 

[Hieronymus]

So you don't believe in evolution (as in the origins of species (or kinds)) anymore?

 

[joshua 1 9]

So you don't believe in evolution (as in the origins of species (or kinds)) anymore?

I believe in Theistic Evolution as defined by Francis Collins. I do not believe in Atheistic Evolution as defined by atheists that have reprobate minds. Only those that have been transformed by the renewing of their mind can be considered reliable and dependable. We do not give consideration to those that have a reprobate mind.

Rom12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
Then you will be able to discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.

 

[Hieronymus]

I believe in Theistic Evolution as defined by Francis Collins.

How about Genesis 1 then, and all references to it?
I believe in theistic creation, as defined by God.

 

[JackRT]

Ahhh! The reprobate mind trump card. Don't you just love it? Lets you win every argument.

 

[HitchSlap]

There is an overwhelming amount of rock solid science that proves the Bible is accurate and true. To be sure Science is limited in what Science can do. Still there is Overwhelming Scientific Evidence for the Bible. The problem is people that are perishing do not understand the Bible. They ALWAYS get it wrong. Because they are not born again then they have NOT been renewed in their mind and the CARNAL mind simply is not able to comprehend the Bible. The Bible is SPIRITUAL NOT CARNAL. The fact that they ALWAYS get it wrong is evidence in itself. Because if you are not FOR God then you are AGAINST God. That means you are an enemy of God. I have no idea why people would want to be an enemy of the God that is powerful enough to Create the Whole Universe. That does not even make any reasonable sense. We know that "the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness". Why would they want to subject themselves to the Wrath of God? For them to say there is NO evidence is simply absurd and that is a sign their mind is not functioning right. The Bible says they have a reprobate mind. We are told that they “suppress the truth by their wickedness.”. So we see that their main objective is to suppress the truth. I am sure they get some sort of reward for their wickedness, "for a season". The Bible says the wages of sin is death. Of course they know they are going to die and perish so that is no surprise to them. Whatever pleasure or advantage they get for their wickedness now is going to be short lived. "Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season." Heb 11:24 Everyone gets to make this choice. God is willing to turn people over to a reprobate mind if that is what they want. He will not make that decision for them. This is a choice that each and every individual must make for themselves. We all make the choice: do we want a mind that is renewed in strength or do we want a reprobate mind? So even I give people huge, Huge, HUGE amounts of scientific evidence they are not able to accept or receive that evidence because of the reprobate mind they have and their propensity to suppress the truth.

"Everyone Poops."

 

[Jimmy D]

But you just told me in another thread that science can't make a judgement on things like Adam's lifespan.

I suppose it all depends on your personal interpretation of the Bible, science does not prove the whole Noah myth or the creation story as told in Genesis if you take it a being literal, in fact, quite the opposite.

 

[joshua 1 9]

But you just told me in another thread that science can't make a judgement on things like Adam's lifespan.

I said that science can not do everything. As much as science is able science shows that the Bible is accurate and true. Science has limits, science is not all powerful. Some people say that God is all powerful and that He can do anything, but Science is very limited in what Science can do.

I suppose it all depends on your personal interpretation of the Bible, science does not prove the whole Noah myth or the creation story as told in Genesis if you take it a being literal, in fact, quite the opposite.

When you say "Noah Myth" this indicates that you want to talk about Noah from the perspective of a reprobate mind. When you use the word "myth" then you indicate that your objective is to suppress the truth. Noah is a real person, all the people in the Bible are real people. They have a story to tell that pertains to the situation that we face in the world today. "Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them."

Of course when we talk about Noah this has a lot more to do with History then Science. So you are jumping around on me which is typical of people that are trying to be evasive. People who do not want to go straight to the point. I am more then prepared to talk about the Bible from the perspective of History. I have studied Ancient History for over 50 years now. The question is how much do you know about the history of Ancient Mesopotamia and just how well are you equipped to discuss that subject? Have you EVER taken a class in Ancient History? Do you know anything about the subject at all?

 

[Jimmy D]

I said that science can not do everything. As much as science is able science shows that the Bible is accurate and true. Science has limits, science is not all powerful. Some people say that God is all powerful and that He can do anything, but Science is very limited in what Science can do.

When you say "Noah Myth" this indicates that you want to talk about Noah from the perspective of a reprobate mind. When you use the word "myth" then you indicate that your objective is to suppress the truth. Noah is a real person, all the people in the Bible are real people. They have a story to tell that pertains to the situation that we face in the world today. "Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them."

Of course when we talk about Noah this has a lot more to do with History then Science. So you are jumping around on me which is typical of people that are trying to be evasive. People who do not want to go straight to the point. I am more then prepared to talk about the Bible from the perspective of History. I have studied Ancient History for over 50 years now. The question is how much do you know about the history of Ancient Mesopotamia and just how well are you equipped to discuss that subject? Have you EVER taken a class in Ancient History? Do you know anything about the subject at all?

Reprobate mind? That's not very nice.

If you want to get 'straight to the point' please show me any shred of scientific or historical (not biblical) evidence that Noah existed and I'll concede he's not mythical, how about that?

 

[HitchSlap]

When you say "Noah Myth" this indicates that you want to talk about Noah from the perspective of a reprobate mind. When you use the word "myth" then you indicate that your objective is to suppress the truth. Noah is a real person, all the people in the Bible are real people.

Likewise, when you say that myths are literal history, it indicates from the perspective of a deluded mind. You you use the word "myth" as literal history, then you indicate that your objective is to promote ignorance.

Noah was not a real person, and most of the people in the bible likely didn't exist.

 

[joshua 1 9]

[QUOTE="HitchSlap, post: 69693665, member: 313281]"Noah was not a real person, and most of the people in the bible likely didn't exist.[/QUOTE]I do not feel any need to have to defend the statement of faith as a Christian.

 

[Hieronymus]

Likewise, when you say that myths are literal history, it indicates from the perspective of a deluded mind.

But it's not myth.
So i guess you must be the deluded one.

 

[HitchSlap]

[QUOTE="HitchSlap, post: 69693665, member: 313281"Noah was not a real person, and most of the people in the bible likely didn't exist.

This is an attack on the statement of faith of this forum. I think there is a forum you can discuss this.[/QUOTE]


It's not an attack. Grow up.

It's a statement of current scholarship. Deal with it.

 

[HitchSlap]

But it's not myth.
So i guess you must be the deluded one.

You're funny.

 

[Hieronymus]

You're funny.

Thanks.

Seriously though, i.m.h.o. the myth is abiogenesis and evolution into the kinds.

 

[joshua 1 9]

It's a statement of current scholarship. Deal with it.

There is nothing to deal with. I find no reason to defend the statement of faith of this forum. According to the rules I do not have to defend the Statement of Faith. What you call: scholarship I call the Great Apostasy.

 

[joshua 1 9]

"Noah was not a real person, and most of the people in the bible likely didn't exist.

I do not feel any need to have to defend the statement of faith as a Christian.

 

[Robert Palase]

I do not feel any need to have to defend the statement of faith as a Christian.

Of course you don't, it would be very strange if you did.

 

[Astrophile]

I have no idea why people would want to be an enemy of the God that is powerful enough to Create the Whole Universe.

Paul said, in Romans 9:10-18, that God decided before we were born who was to be saved and who was to be damned, and that it is his choice, not ours.

'It depends not on man's will or exertion, but upon God's mercy.' ... 'So then he has mercy upon whomever he wills, and he hardens the heart of whomever he wills.'

 

[HitchSlap]

There is nothing to deal with. I find no reason to defend the statement of faith of this forum.

You might find it more intellectually satisfying if you did.

According to the rules I do not have to defend the Statement of Faith.

No one asked you to.

What you call: scholarship

What is considered scholarship, by those who are scholars.

I call the Great Apostasy.

Call it what you like.