Hunter Biden’s Lawyers Put Fox News on Notice, Demand Retractions and an Apology – Or Risk a Defamation Lawsuit

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"The operating system timestamps appear to be authentic
Hurray for the timestamp.

Besides, any "evidence" that has not been challenged and verified as truth is not evidence, got it?
 
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We do know that inappropriate contentographic images of H. Biden were posted on Twitter. Was that really necessary? Revenge inappropriate content posting is illegal.
Late Wednesday, Sen. Wendy Rogers, who sponsored a bill earlier this year in an attempt to block minors from watching online pornography, re-tweeted a video that contained x-rated images of Hunter Biden, to her more than 300,000 followers on Twitter. The social media platform allows adolescents from as young as 13 years old to sign up without age restrictions and allows adult content to be posted.

Ryan said he thinks Rogers violated Arizona’s so-called revenge youknowwhat law, which makes intentionally disclosing a sexual picture of anyone without consent a criminal offense.

During a committee hearing, Rogers expressed her concerns about the ease with which minors can access pornography, calling it ”a scourge that is affecting impressionable minds.”
 
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Seems like a joke. Are we talking about a public figure like Hunter here or the prostitutes he hired?

During a committee hearing, Rogers expressed her concerns about the ease with which minors can access inappropriate contentography, calling it ”a scourge that is affecting impressionable minds.”

Indeed, there's no reason for anyone....especially minors....to be on Twitter.
 
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Hunter Biden's lawyers know somebody else who's good at losing defamation cases.

Hunter Biden's lawyer sends cease-and-desist letter to Trump over social media posts

An attorney for Hunter Biden sent a cease-and-desist letter on Thursday to former President Donald Trump's legal team, claiming that Trump's rhetoric on social media and elsewhere "could lead to [Hunter Biden's] or his family’s injury."

Lowell wrote that Trump's team "need not respond," but encouraged them to convey to the former president "how his incitement can further hurt people and cause himself even more legal trouble."
 
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Hunter Biden sues former Trump aide Garrett Ziegler over his private data

Attorneys for Hunter Biden on Wednesday filed suit against a former Trump White House aide over his alleged role in publishing online a trove of emails and embarrassing images purportedly belonging to the president's son.

Wednesday's suit is the latest salvo in Hunter Biden's legal counteroffensive against those who allegedly participated in the [allegedly] infamous [alleged] laptop [alleged] controversy in the weeks leading up to the 2020 presidential election.

Hunter Biden's legal team in March filed suit against John Paul Mac Isaac, a Delaware-based computer repairman who in April 2019 purportedly obtained and later disseminated data from a laptop allegedly belonging to the president's son. That suit remains ongoing and Mac Isaac has denied any wrongdoing.

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Just to forestall the inevitable "They admit the laptop is his!". From the complaint:

2. Since approximately December 2020, Defendant Ziegler, Defendant ICU and their “team” of volunteers and independent contractors have spent countless hours accessing, tampering with, manipulating, altering, copying and damaging computer data that they do not own and that they claim to have obtained from hacking into Plaintiff’s iPhone data and from scouring a copy of the hard drive of what they claim to be Plaintiff’s “laptop” computer.
 
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Hunter Biden sues Rudy Giuliani over laptop personal computer data

Hunter Biden has filed a lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani and Giuliani’s former lawyer, Bob Costello, charging that the two men misused his personal computer data — the latest counterattack by the president’s son against his GOP critics.

“For the past many months and even years, Defendants have dedicated an extraordinary amount of time and energy toward looking for, hacking into, tampering with, manipulating, copying, disseminating, and generally obsessing over data that they were given that was taken or stolen,” the lawsuit charges. It alleges that the duo’s actions violated the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
 
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Lawyers for Hunter Biden plan to sue Fox News 'imminently'

Biden has hired attorney Mark Geragos and his firm to represent him in the Fox litigation efforts. The letter is the second outreach to Fox this month. An earlier letter was hand-delivered to Fox’s counsel two weeks ago, and the network asked for more time to respond, according to a source familiar with Biden’s legal efforts. The network has not yet responded to the letter sent April 23, which included a Friday evening, April 26, deadline to respond, according to Geragos.

The plan for Hunter Biden to pursue legal action against Fox News has been in the works for over a year, according to sources familiar with Biden's legal efforts, and was inspired in part by the success of the Dominion lawsuit and the ongoing Smartmatic lawsuit.

The Biden letter specifically cites Fox’s advancement of bribery allegations by Smirnov, who was indicted in February on charges of making false statements about the Bidens to the FBI [and] demands corrections and retractions — including on-air statements by television hosts “including Sean Hannity, Jesse Watters, and Maria Bartiromo, to inform their viewers on air that they have been sharing a debunked allegation from a source who has been federally indicted.”

The letter also alleges that Fox’s airing of “intimate images” belonging to Hunter Biden that his lawyers claim were “hacked, stolen, and/or manipulated” violates Biden’s civil rights as well as copyright law.
 
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Didn't Hunter abandon that laptop at the repair shop? Wouldn't that make it the property of the repair shop owner?
Also, wasn't the MSM denying that this laptop even existed, and that it was just a conspiracy theory made up by conservatives???

Perhaps it's Fox News and other conservatives who are owed a lawsuit win (settlement) for defamation. However, it seems that Hunter and his attorney wants to cover themselves by deflecting attention by using psychological projection in the legal system
Yes, the laptop was abandoned, which makes it the personal property of the computer store owner after the designated period of time. So Biden attorneys are now arguing this:

"Mac Isaac intended and knew, or clearly should have known, that people to whom he provided the data that he believed to belong to Mr Biden would use it against then-candidate Joseph Biden and to assist then-President Trump," the filing reads.

It adds that disseminating private data in this manner "is offensive and objectionable to Mr Biden, and would be highly offensive and objectionable to any reasonable person". Offensive data isn't defamation if it is true.

 
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Yes, the laptop was abandoned, which makes it the personal property of the computer store owner after the designated period of time. So Biden attorneys are now arguing this:

"Mac Isaac intended and knew, or clearly should have known, that people to whom he provided the data that he believed to belong to Mr Biden would use it against then-candidate Joseph Biden and to assist then-President Trump," the filing reads.

It adds that disseminating private data in this manner "is offensive and objectionable to Mr Biden, and would be highly offensive and objectionable to any reasonable person". Offensive data isn't defamation if it is true.

Even if it actually was H Biden who dropped off the (alleged) laptop, the only thing the computer shop owner might be entitled to was the hardware, not the data that was stored upon it.
 
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Yes, the laptop was abandoned, which makes it the personal property of the computer store owner after the designated period of time. So Biden attorneys are now arguing this:

"Mac Isaac intended and knew, or clearly should have known, that people to whom he provided the data that he believed to belong to Mr Biden would use it against then-candidate Joseph Biden and to assist then-President Trump," the filing reads.

It adds that disseminating private data in this manner "is offensive and objectionable to Mr Biden, and would be highly offensive and objectionable to any reasonable person". Offensive data isn't defamation if it is true.

Owning the laptop does not give him license to the data contained on it. If I drop my cell phone and you find it you don't get to access my bank records even though they are on the device.
 
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Even if it actually was H Biden who dropped off the (alleged) laptop, the only thing the computer shop owner might be entitled to was the hardware, not the data that was stored upon it.
Not so. If property is abandoned, it's yours. Here, Biden signed a repair authorization form that deems equipment abandoned if it remains at the shop for more than 90 days after service is complete.

He abandoned the laptop - and yes, we know it was Hunter Biden's laptop, as his attorneys filed suit against Mac Isaac, something they could not do without ownership. Once, abandoned, it is owned fully under Delaware law -not partially -to the one who was left with it.
 
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Owning the laptop does not give him license to the data contained on it. If I drop my cell phone and you find it you don't get to access my bank records even though they are on the device.
You still own that phone and it is lost. You will make every effort to retrieve it, unlike what Hunter Biden did.

If the requisite time passes and you left it with me to repair, and signed a document stating its mine if you do not return, and you never come back, it's mine. I could do anything legal with it. It is not legal to use your bank account.

It is legal to use whatever else you have on the phone say, a stash of poetry or photos, though no one would; the phone would simply get wiped so it is ready for re-use.
 
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Not so. If property is abandoned, it's yours. Here, Biden signed a repair authorization form that deems equipment abandoned if it remains at the shop for more than 90 days after service is complete.

He abandoned the laptop - and yes, we know it was Hunter Biden's laptop, as his attorneys filed suit against Mac Isaac, something they could not do without ownership.
That is incorrect. The suit has nothing to do with ownership of the laptop but deals with the release of data.
Once, abandoned, it is owned fully under Delaware law -not partially -to the one who was left with it.
The hardware is owned not the software or the data.
 
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You still own that phone and it is lost. You will make every effort to retrieve it, unlike what Hunter Biden did.

If the requisite time passes and you left it with me to repair, and signed a document stating its mine if you do not return, and you never come back, it's mine. I could do anything legal with it. It is not legal to use your bank account.

It is legal to use whatever else you have on the phone say, a stash of poetry or photos, though no one would; the phone would simply get wiped so it is ready for re-use.
No, it is not legal to use the data. You do not suddenly gain legal rights to my likeness simply because it is data on a device. If you make money off a picture on my phone I have a legal right to sue you for misusing data that belongs to me.
 
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You still own that phone and it is lost. You will make every effort to retrieve it, unlike what Hunter Biden did.

If the requisite time passes and you left it with me to repair, and signed a document stating its mine if you do not return, and you never come back, it's mine. I could do anything legal with it. It is not legal to use your bank account.

It is legal to use whatever else you have on the phone say, a stash of poetry or photos, though no one would; the phone would simply get wiped so it is ready for re-use.

As others have pointed out, that is not legal; that is why they "wipe" the equipment so they can resell it. They don't have to return the data but they cannot use it or sell the equipment with the user data still on it.
 
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It is legal to use whatever else you have on the phone say, a stash of poetry or photos,
It is legal to use them in a personal capacity. It is not legal to sell them or otherwise profit from them - intellectual property laws still apply. If I was writing a novel and left a copy on a computer that I sold to you, I would have ample grounds to sue you if you tried to publish it under your name - you didn't write it, and I didn't sell you the novel. I sold you the computer (the hardware). I couldn't really do anything to get the copy of the novel back from you, but all you would be able to do with it legally is read it.
though no one would; the phone would simply get wiped so it is ready for re-use.
A moral person wouldn't, perhaps, but, considering that this entire situation hinges on someone who did not wipe the device in question and instead sold the contents, it seems a bit silly to claim that "no one" would do it.
 
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It is legal to use them in a personal capacity. It is not legal to sell them or otherwise profit from them - intellectual property laws still apply.

Nope. Not even that is legal. You can look at the on the original device, but you can't duplicate or distribute them in any fashion.
 
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Nope. Not even that is legal. You can look at the on the original device, but you can't duplicate or distribute them in any fashion.
And even looking at the information is legally questionable; technically the are only allowed to look at things as required for repairs or, if you don't pick up your machine, (if they believe they have incorrect contact info) to look for correct contact information.
 
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