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Sorry folks I don’t have the literally skill set to condense this subject no more than I have.
If Christians or anyone does not understand the ages they cannot fully grasp the WORD of GOD. Just as scientist are locked into darkness who don’t take from the WORD of GOD and make up non-truths to explain the ages. The only way to get truth is through the Biblical accounts.
There are 3 Heaven and Earth ages; called dispensations of time.
To say the first days were literal 24 hour days cannot be when the lights that institute a 24 hour period: the sun, moon, and stars that causes seasons and days were not even created until 4th day. At very least we can deduct that these 4 days were not 24 hour periods.
Biblical inspirations show the Apostles and prophets knew of the mystery of these ages. There is the 1st age that GOD created when HE created all the living Souls (Ruach) at once for HIS pleasure. The earth was created and filled with life and HE created the Ruach in HIS own image-SPIRIT form to rule over her. Lasting millions if not billions of years. If true scientist are correct and no reason not to believe their dating of the earth being 4 billion years old. We have proof of the 1st age when we see dinosaur’s skeletons all over the world that are billions of years old.
It was a perfect paradise with no jet streams or any kind of weather or geological formations that cause catastrophic events we have in this age. We have found Dinosaurs with buttercups still in their mouths under the frozen tundra of Alaska. We Find Sea shells just as created billions of years ago embedded in rocks on tops of mountains because of the firmament that once was above us crashed down at an instance.
A majority of Christians have denied and many still believe because they never have been taught that the Bible does not say the earth is 6k years old, but billions. However, our dated time started with the 8th day creation of- Heb. eth-haadam-the man Adam: The Bible declares this age of flesh man began around 13k years ago. Science and the Bible agree with the account; the ice age ended with the last woolly mammoth dated to the timeline. .
The first 5 days were at least 1k year periods for a day with the LORD is as a 1k years with man. First 4 days could have even lasted thousands of years. I personally believe that this age began 13k years ago. That is when GODS SPIRIT moved over the re-created earth age melting the ice covered earth.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
This age was created in 6 days then GOD rested the 7th from HIS work and then on 8th day formed (Heb. Eth-haadam=The man Adam). By Peter’s reckoning we can say from where our dated time starts with Adam 8th day; 7k years of creation until now some 6k years we come to 13k years. This is the time scientist and archeologists say that period ended (glacier age). Bible is accurate in stating this too. Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Period doesn’t say when but we know its millions to 4 billion years old.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Old=Gr. Strong’s 1597- ekpalai- of old, long time ago; Heavens =plural in reference to 3 ages.
Peter saying some people are willingly ignorant of the fact even though science and the Bible proves of a 1st earth age before this age, a time of perfect creation that lasted eons of time.
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
Strongs: Perished Gr. apollumi-root of Satan’s name Apollyon: (to destroy fully); from Apo=575 and base of 3639=olethros from primary (ollumi-to destroy, death, punishment, destruction). A total, complete destruction, not the flood of Noah where it was localized to the giants and the fallen with their abominations of seducing flesh women with a sole purpose of destroying the seed line that the CHRIST child would come from. Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. (GR. Appollyon=a destroyer) Abaddon in Heb. identified in names of old and New Testament so no one is deceived by who is the cause of the destruction, his name is destroyer/death. Apol'lyon. Apollyon or, as it is literally in the margin of the KJ Authorized Version of Rev_9:11, "the destroyer", is the rendering of the Hebrew word.
The first flood to destroy the first age of a perfect earth, a paradise; because of the perversion of Satan and those that fallowed. It was perfect when the dinosaurs roamed with 16 billion perfect beings (us) no huge bodies of water on the land; the ocean was above us protecting all of earth from dark space. We were living in houses made of precious stones and metals that would last an eternity, no such word as death until the falling star (Satan).
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Earth and heaven that are now the 2nd age, flood of the 1st earth age was a total destruction of that earth age. This time GOD will destroy both Heaven and Earth in a consuming fire that consumes the wicked, and all negative evil rudiments; a consuming fire that totally consumes where there will not even be a remembrance, just as while in the flesh we have no remembrance of the 1st age.
perdition Gr.-apoleia-destruction, die, perish = Lucifer is only entity named by name and sentenced to perish, the idiom ‘dead man walking’ comes from this; the perishing (consumed by fire because God is a consuming fire) of those that choose not to fallow God, perish forever never to be thought of or heard of again Apollyon.
Isaiah 24:Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
1st age GOD had completely destroyed, the perfect paradise where nothing survived. We were created in this age innocent and have no remembrance of it to start this age with a clean slate, so to speak; Ecc 1:11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
Heb 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. GOD shook the earth turning completely upside down; continents that once were connected split apart causing massive continental shifts that separated the land and continents we see today. Geological plates crashing together creating turmoil in the atmosphere and earth causing volcanos, earthquakes atmospheric disruptions; volcanic explosions killing off dinosaurs, causing mountains to explode.
The firmament (ocean above) fell in HIS fury And the ocean that once above crashed down at 1 very instant of time washing everything with a rush of fury. GOD shook the earth in 1st age at the rebellion of Satan and destroyed everything on it. (Gr. Kataballo-from Gr. 2596 and 906; -to throw down-cast down- fall down) from or sense foundation-GR. Katabole=founding; conception-conceive- Foundation. Destroying everything on earth; not the geological flood of Noah where the purpose was not to destroy 2nd age but the abominations of the fallen angels.
Firmament that was over head (oceans as we know it) was cast to the ground; The oceans we see today that make up 70% of the area on earth cast down in a swift total destruction and froze over because GOD was not here to warm, light the world. Nothing to protect her, the cold darkness of space was a swift icing of the earth-led to what man termed glacier period. Not as Noah’s flood that was a regional flood to destroy the abominations of the 7k fallen angels.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Manuscripts tell us the 1st word was =it became void, wasn’t created that way. 2nd was –omit, (was added); it became void when Satan and his cronies rebelled; God doesn’t create anything in vain.
Isa_45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
GOD formed the earth with HIS own 2 hands in 1st age, just as 8th day man “The man Adam” HE formed while the others were created. 1st Adam GOD formed with HIS hands because through him would become the 2nd Adam –our MESSIAH. 2nd age was a re-creation of the 1st formation but was no longer perfect paradise as 1st. 1st formation was perfect without storms, jet stream or volcanos etc.
Without form; (Heb. Strongs 8414-tohu; to-hoo-utterly destroyed); God did not create it that way, he created it beautiful with his own hands to be inhabited forever as a perfect paradise. This explains Gen.1:2 where it says was void and without form...it became that way, God doesn’t create anything void- Heb. Strongs 922-bohu =an indistinguishable ruin and Heb.-tohu-utterly destroyed! It was a total destruction where everything was destroyed because of downfall of Satan; everything! Plants, animals, cities.
Paul was fully aware of the ages and explained them to the Ephesians. Many scholars have proclaimed that the first 3 chapters of Ephesians are hard to understand, confusing many would be Christians. if they just took the blinders off and come to the full knowledge that there are 3 earth and 3 heaven ages the confusion would be erased and easy to understand fitting like a glove on the hand.
Eph 3:21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
Foundation of the world ( from Companion Bible-Bullinger)
To arrive at the true meaning of the expression you have to know there are 2 definitions for it> NT=themelios; and katabole.
The noun themelios occurs in Lk 6:48, 49;14:29. Acts 16:26. Rom 15:20; 1 Cor. 3:10,11,12. Eph. 2:20. 1 Tim. 6:19, 2Tim. 2:10. Heb. 6:1; 11:10. Rev. 21:14,19.
It is never used of the word (kosmos) or the earth (ge). The corresponding verb (themelioo) occurs in Math. 7:25; Luke 6:48. Eph. 3:17; Col.1:23. Heb. 1:10 and 1Pet.5:10. The verb is only once used of earth (ge) Heb. 1:10.
A comparison of all these passages shows that these are proper and regular terms for the English words "to found" and "foundation".
The noun, katabole occurs in Math13:35; 25:34. Lk. 11:50. John 17:24, Eph. 1:4, Heb. 4:3; 9:26; 11:11. 1Pet. 1:20, Rev 13:8; 17:8 and the corresponding verb (kataballo) in 2 Cor. 4:9; Heb. 6:1 and Rev 12:10.
A comparison of all these passages (especially 2 Cor4:9 and Rev 12:10) will show that kataballo and katabole are not the proper terms for founding and foundation, but the correct meaning is casting down and overthrow.
Consistency, therefore, calls for the same translation in Heb. 6:1, where, instead of "not laying again", the rendering should be "not casting down".
Accordingly the noun katabole ought to be translated "disruption" or "ruin".
If Christians or anyone does not understand the ages they cannot fully grasp the WORD of GOD. Just as scientist are locked into darkness who don’t take from the WORD of GOD and make up non-truths to explain the ages. The only way to get truth is through the Biblical accounts.
There are 3 Heaven and Earth ages; called dispensations of time.
To say the first days were literal 24 hour days cannot be when the lights that institute a 24 hour period: the sun, moon, and stars that causes seasons and days were not even created until 4th day. At very least we can deduct that these 4 days were not 24 hour periods.
Biblical inspirations show the Apostles and prophets knew of the mystery of these ages. There is the 1st age that GOD created when HE created all the living Souls (Ruach) at once for HIS pleasure. The earth was created and filled with life and HE created the Ruach in HIS own image-SPIRIT form to rule over her. Lasting millions if not billions of years. If true scientist are correct and no reason not to believe their dating of the earth being 4 billion years old. We have proof of the 1st age when we see dinosaur’s skeletons all over the world that are billions of years old.
It was a perfect paradise with no jet streams or any kind of weather or geological formations that cause catastrophic events we have in this age. We have found Dinosaurs with buttercups still in their mouths under the frozen tundra of Alaska. We Find Sea shells just as created billions of years ago embedded in rocks on tops of mountains because of the firmament that once was above us crashed down at an instance.
A majority of Christians have denied and many still believe because they never have been taught that the Bible does not say the earth is 6k years old, but billions. However, our dated time started with the 8th day creation of- Heb. eth-haadam-the man Adam: The Bible declares this age of flesh man began around 13k years ago. Science and the Bible agree with the account; the ice age ended with the last woolly mammoth dated to the timeline. .
The first 5 days were at least 1k year periods for a day with the LORD is as a 1k years with man. First 4 days could have even lasted thousands of years. I personally believe that this age began 13k years ago. That is when GODS SPIRIT moved over the re-created earth age melting the ice covered earth.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
This age was created in 6 days then GOD rested the 7th from HIS work and then on 8th day formed (Heb. Eth-haadam=The man Adam). By Peter’s reckoning we can say from where our dated time starts with Adam 8th day; 7k years of creation until now some 6k years we come to 13k years. This is the time scientist and archeologists say that period ended (glacier age). Bible is accurate in stating this too. Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Period doesn’t say when but we know its millions to 4 billion years old.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Old=Gr. Strong’s 1597- ekpalai- of old, long time ago; Heavens =plural in reference to 3 ages.
Peter saying some people are willingly ignorant of the fact even though science and the Bible proves of a 1st earth age before this age, a time of perfect creation that lasted eons of time.
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
Strongs: Perished Gr. apollumi-root of Satan’s name Apollyon: (to destroy fully); from Apo=575 and base of 3639=olethros from primary (ollumi-to destroy, death, punishment, destruction). A total, complete destruction, not the flood of Noah where it was localized to the giants and the fallen with their abominations of seducing flesh women with a sole purpose of destroying the seed line that the CHRIST child would come from. Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. (GR. Appollyon=a destroyer) Abaddon in Heb. identified in names of old and New Testament so no one is deceived by who is the cause of the destruction, his name is destroyer/death. Apol'lyon. Apollyon or, as it is literally in the margin of the KJ Authorized Version of Rev_9:11, "the destroyer", is the rendering of the Hebrew word.
The first flood to destroy the first age of a perfect earth, a paradise; because of the perversion of Satan and those that fallowed. It was perfect when the dinosaurs roamed with 16 billion perfect beings (us) no huge bodies of water on the land; the ocean was above us protecting all of earth from dark space. We were living in houses made of precious stones and metals that would last an eternity, no such word as death until the falling star (Satan).
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Earth and heaven that are now the 2nd age, flood of the 1st earth age was a total destruction of that earth age. This time GOD will destroy both Heaven and Earth in a consuming fire that consumes the wicked, and all negative evil rudiments; a consuming fire that totally consumes where there will not even be a remembrance, just as while in the flesh we have no remembrance of the 1st age.
perdition Gr.-apoleia-destruction, die, perish = Lucifer is only entity named by name and sentenced to perish, the idiom ‘dead man walking’ comes from this; the perishing (consumed by fire because God is a consuming fire) of those that choose not to fallow God, perish forever never to be thought of or heard of again Apollyon.
Isaiah 24:Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
1st age GOD had completely destroyed, the perfect paradise where nothing survived. We were created in this age innocent and have no remembrance of it to start this age with a clean slate, so to speak; Ecc 1:11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
Heb 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. GOD shook the earth turning completely upside down; continents that once were connected split apart causing massive continental shifts that separated the land and continents we see today. Geological plates crashing together creating turmoil in the atmosphere and earth causing volcanos, earthquakes atmospheric disruptions; volcanic explosions killing off dinosaurs, causing mountains to explode.
The firmament (ocean above) fell in HIS fury And the ocean that once above crashed down at 1 very instant of time washing everything with a rush of fury. GOD shook the earth in 1st age at the rebellion of Satan and destroyed everything on it. (Gr. Kataballo-from Gr. 2596 and 906; -to throw down-cast down- fall down) from or sense foundation-GR. Katabole=founding; conception-conceive- Foundation. Destroying everything on earth; not the geological flood of Noah where the purpose was not to destroy 2nd age but the abominations of the fallen angels.
Firmament that was over head (oceans as we know it) was cast to the ground; The oceans we see today that make up 70% of the area on earth cast down in a swift total destruction and froze over because GOD was not here to warm, light the world. Nothing to protect her, the cold darkness of space was a swift icing of the earth-led to what man termed glacier period. Not as Noah’s flood that was a regional flood to destroy the abominations of the 7k fallen angels.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Manuscripts tell us the 1st word was =it became void, wasn’t created that way. 2nd was –omit, (was added); it became void when Satan and his cronies rebelled; God doesn’t create anything in vain.
Isa_45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
GOD formed the earth with HIS own 2 hands in 1st age, just as 8th day man “The man Adam” HE formed while the others were created. 1st Adam GOD formed with HIS hands because through him would become the 2nd Adam –our MESSIAH. 2nd age was a re-creation of the 1st formation but was no longer perfect paradise as 1st. 1st formation was perfect without storms, jet stream or volcanos etc.
Without form; (Heb. Strongs 8414-tohu; to-hoo-utterly destroyed); God did not create it that way, he created it beautiful with his own hands to be inhabited forever as a perfect paradise. This explains Gen.1:2 where it says was void and without form...it became that way, God doesn’t create anything void- Heb. Strongs 922-bohu =an indistinguishable ruin and Heb.-tohu-utterly destroyed! It was a total destruction where everything was destroyed because of downfall of Satan; everything! Plants, animals, cities.
Paul was fully aware of the ages and explained them to the Ephesians. Many scholars have proclaimed that the first 3 chapters of Ephesians are hard to understand, confusing many would be Christians. if they just took the blinders off and come to the full knowledge that there are 3 earth and 3 heaven ages the confusion would be erased and easy to understand fitting like a glove on the hand.
Eph 3:21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
Foundation of the world ( from Companion Bible-Bullinger)
To arrive at the true meaning of the expression you have to know there are 2 definitions for it> NT=themelios; and katabole.
The noun themelios occurs in Lk 6:48, 49;14:29. Acts 16:26. Rom 15:20; 1 Cor. 3:10,11,12. Eph. 2:20. 1 Tim. 6:19, 2Tim. 2:10. Heb. 6:1; 11:10. Rev. 21:14,19.
It is never used of the word (kosmos) or the earth (ge). The corresponding verb (themelioo) occurs in Math. 7:25; Luke 6:48. Eph. 3:17; Col.1:23. Heb. 1:10 and 1Pet.5:10. The verb is only once used of earth (ge) Heb. 1:10.
A comparison of all these passages shows that these are proper and regular terms for the English words "to found" and "foundation".
The noun, katabole occurs in Math13:35; 25:34. Lk. 11:50. John 17:24, Eph. 1:4, Heb. 4:3; 9:26; 11:11. 1Pet. 1:20, Rev 13:8; 17:8 and the corresponding verb (kataballo) in 2 Cor. 4:9; Heb. 6:1 and Rev 12:10.
A comparison of all these passages (especially 2 Cor4:9 and Rev 12:10) will show that kataballo and katabole are not the proper terms for founding and foundation, but the correct meaning is casting down and overthrow.
Consistency, therefore, calls for the same translation in Heb. 6:1, where, instead of "not laying again", the rendering should be "not casting down".
Accordingly the noun katabole ought to be translated "disruption" or "ruin".
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