The 2 witnesses in Revelation
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I know that most people see the two witnesses as two men but could it be something else. For example: the two witnesses relate to the two olive trees. The olive tree in the OT represents the nation of Israel.
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The symbolism is there. The reality is that these are two real people who will stand before the world, witnessing and giving the world one last chance to repent of their evil ways.
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Two people who heard the call to "come up hither"....
Read the scroll of Rev 10 and then come back to break the news to us what it says.. "prophecy again".
These two felt the call that this was a special calling for them to answer "Lord, Here I am" and they were taken whether in vision or for real.. I don't know...
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If you read Revelation 11:3 onwards, it clearly talks about the two witness describes them as two olive trees, two candlesticks. It says that they cannot be harmed and that fire will come out their mouths. They will be killed and then ascend.
However, we have to look to the OT for an understanding of the symbolism, how do you see the symbolism in chapter 11 of Revelation.
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Thanks I will have a look. I was thinking for the candlesticks or Menorahs in Revelation one they represent the believing community and in the OT the olive tree is often symbolic of Israel.
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It would be chapter 4 but still really doesn't give much insight into who the witnesses are going to be interesting post though.
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Ruth Messianic, joining Israel, Na'aseh v'nishma!
No, there is nowhere that information is revealed. It is as mysterious as the original waiting for one with the spirit of Elijah to come. No one was able to figure out who that would be either.....We must therefore make sure that we remain of the ones who can hear and perceive......
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1.)The hints of candlestick/menorah light connection which are found in the temple
2.)Rev 11 introduction of the people in the temple being counted before the introduction of the two witnesses
3.) The seventy receiving the spirit on Mount Sinai and the two in the camp prophecying.
The two witnesses are not in the temple just as the two in the camp at Mount Sinai were not up the mountain with the rest. ... Is there a parrellel?
2.)Rev 11 introduction of the people in the temple being counted before the introduction of the two witnesses
3.) The seventy receiving the spirit on Mount Sinai and the two in the camp prophecying.
The two witnesses are not in the temple just as the two in the camp at Mount Sinai were not up the mountain with the rest. ... Is there a parrellel?
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Well what we do know they will have power, they will prophesy for 1260 days (wonder if the number is significant), they will be dressed in sackcloth, they are protected, they will have fire come out of their mouth and consume their enemies, they will have the power to shut up the sky, bring drought, turn water in blood and bring plagues (could be why some suggest one of them as Moses).
After their witness is finished they will be killed after 3 and half days they will be brought back to life and ascend. There will be an earth quake and after which one tenth of the city will be destroyed.
Where is this to happen? Is it Jerusalem or a place called Sodom and Egypt?
I think the only thing that we can be sure of their message will be one of repentance and the Good News.
Some people suggest the witness represent a company of witnesses, others Elijah and Moses, others Elijah and Enoch. Elijah seems popular.
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Could the parallel be that if the people do not repent they will not be allowed into God's presence? Only a few will be chosen, the road is narrow? Or does it mean the Holy City is no longer clean and needs to be clean. The Temple has been contaminated?
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outer court... definitely needs some work.... or why would there be two witnesses? The temple itself where the people are getting marked, sealed, sanctified, counted, and found worshiping...indicated they will not be martyred, they will not be slaughtered, and they will be under His Wing.
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There seems to be more questions than answer but it does appear that they are killed in Rev 11:7 and then in Rev 11:11 they come back to life after 3 and half days.
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For the witnesses .. yeah.. they are killed.. for those found in the temple and marked... they appear to have received the seal and will be those who are alive when He returns.. saying "Lo, this is our God, whom we have been waiting for.."
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For the witnesses .. yeah.. they are killed.. for those found in the temple and marked... they appear to have received the seal and will be those who are alive when He returns.. saying "Lo, this is our God, whom we have been waiting for.."
Ok I see were you are coming from. I will look into this point.
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Rereading it appears the two witnesses have the power to call down punishments which are the same as the 10 plagues in Exodus.
The survivors are terrified and praise God but are they different to ones who are sanctified.
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