Republicans Reconsider

Which candidate would you choose if you had the original lineup again?

  • Still Trump

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Still Cruz

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Still Kasich

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Bush

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Carson

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Christie

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Fiorina

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Huckabee

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rubio

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Walker

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .

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Now that the process is well along and the field of candidates has narrowed, it seems like everyone is unhappy. IF you (Republican voters) could somehow go back to when there were seventeen candidates, who would you choose NOW?

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MSNBC commentators seem to think that the cross-section of Republicans who are endorsing Cruz are doing so to: 1) stop Trump and 2) get to a brokered convention, so that they can nominate anyone but Cruz.

Scott Walker, for example, said he believed there would be a brokered convention and that the nominee would be neither Cruz, Trump, nor Kasich. He then endorsed Cruz. Hmm...

Or Cruz endorser Lindsay Graham, who said, "If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you." Hmmm...

Cruz' endorsers are lukewarm at best--and why shouldn't they be? Even Republicans can see his views are extremist and dangerous.

There is also talk that many Republicans will jump ship for former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson, who is running as a libertarian. His support is apparently already up to 11%, almost enough to put him on the debate stage when it's time for the general election.

I guess that Cruz will take the endorsements he can while plotting to subvert the lukewarm endorsers' desire to get anyone but him nominated at a brokered convention.

May he fail!
 
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I've got to go with the governor and former representative who has a track record of being effective in both offices, John Kasich. Rand Paul had interested me as well.

I really think that the party should limit the amount of nominees to the number that can fit on a debate stage. The liberal wing of the party has been getting their candidates nominated for years because the conservatives have been too spread out.
There is also talk that many Republicans will jump ship for former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson, who is running as a libertarian. His support is apparently already up to 11%, almost enough to put him on the debate stage when it's time for the general election.
Except for his stance on abortion, he's a great candidate. That stance is a deal-breaker, it's too bad he has those views.
 
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Cruz is still the most consistently conservative and Walker isn't far behind. I like Carson a lot too, though I fear he's too gentle and soft-spoken to rise above the muck and mire of modern politics. I really hope that the next president, regardless of who wins, uses him in their cabinet.
 
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Cruz and Trump both have their interesting features. Cruz's unashamed evangelicalism and how it infuriates the Left is quite entertaining, and I like him for it and hope that he is genuine about it. Trump's unashamed Trumpism and how it infuriates the Left is also quite entertaining, and I dearly hope he isn't a fraud. I dearly hope both of them aren't frauds.

I like both of them for how they infuriate the Left. I like pretty much all people who infuriate the Left.

In terms of policy, I don't consider Trump a conservative but his commitment to draw back NATO, not engage in pointless foreign wars, befriend Russia, negotiate better trade deals and stop mass immigration appeal to me a lot. Self-funding his campaign and the whole 'straight-talking' shtick is also pretty good.

Cruz's low tax super-free market system, ending corporate subsidies, is interesting and I'd like to see if it works, but he often disappoints me when he says a lot of quite hawkish statements, and his position on trade deals can sometimes seem contradictory. I was impressed however when he continued to oppose ethanol subsidies when campaigning in Iowa, had a honest chat with a farmer on tape about it and ended up winning the state.

Honestly I don't think I'd consider Ted Cruz a conservative either, his almost ruthless commitment to the free market and neoliberal policies are far too ideological for my liking and not one fitting of a conservative, who does what makes the most sense, not what his ideology dictates.

So Cruz appeals more on the social conservatism, low taxes, more liberty and less surveillance (hopefully) sort of thing, but Trump appeals more on the opposition to mass immigration, foreign wars and unfair trade deals. Cruz also worries me with his donors, and how much he is going to have to owe those donors if he get into office.

All in all, I probably have to hand it to Trump. I say this as a Brit though, whose chief concern is the next President's foreign policy and how it'll affect Britain being dragged into more pointless wars.
 
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Cruz and Trump both have their interesting features. Cruz's unashamed evangelicalism and how it infuriates the Left is quite entertaining, and I like him for it and hope that he is genuine about it. Trump's unashamed Trumpism and how it infuriates the Left is also quite entertaining, and I dearly hope he isn't a fraud. I dearly hope both of them aren't frauds.

I like both of them for how they infuriate the Left. I like pretty much all people who infuriate the Left.

In terms of policy, I don't consider Trump a conservative but his commitment to draw back NATO, not engage in pointless foreign wars, befriend Russia, negotiate better trade deals and stop mass immigration appeal to me a lot. Self-funding his campaign and the whole 'straight-talking' shtick is also pretty good.

Cruz's low tax super-free market system, ending corporate subsidies, is interesting and I'd like to see if it works, but he often disappoints me when he says a lot of quite hawkish statements, and his position on trade deals can sometimes seem contradictory. I was impressed however when he continued to oppose ethanol subsidies when campaigning in Iowa, had a honest chat with a farmer on tape about it and ended up winning the state.

Honestly I don't think I'd consider Ted Cruz a conservative either, his almost ruthless commitment to the free market and neoliberal policies are far too ideological for my liking and not one fitting of a conservative, who does what makes the most sense, not what his ideology dictates.

So Cruz appeals more on the social conservatism, low taxes, more liberty and less surveillance (hopefully) sort of thing, but Trump appeals more on the opposition to mass immigration, foreign wars and unfair trade deals. Cruz also worries me with his donors, and how much he is going to have to owe those donors if he get into office.

All in all, I probably have to hand it to Trump. I say this as a Brit though, whose chief concern is the next President's foreign policy and how it'll affect Britain being dragged into more pointless wars.
Now, now...Everyone's supposed to dislike Trump ;)
 
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The final weeks of the Republican primary seem to point to the truth of the adage: Nice guys finish last.

With seventeen candidates to choose from, the remaining states are pretty much left with the choice between a bombastic narcissist and a senator whose Washington colleagues, according to Lindsay Graham, would be hard pressed to convict a Cruz assassin, even if the murder occurred on the Senate floor.

Graham also describes the choice between Trump and Cruz as choosing between being shot and being poisoned.

What happened to the other 15 candidates, at least half of whom were non-toxic?
 
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The final weeks of the Republican primary seem to point to the truth of the adage: Nice guys finish last.

With seventeen candidates to choose from, the remaining states are pretty much left with the choice between a bombastic narcissist and a senator whose Washington colleagues, according to Lindsay Graham, would be hard pressed to convict a Cruz assassin, even if the murder occurred on the Senate floor.

Graham also describes the choice between Trump and Cruz as choosing between being shot and being poisoned.

What happened to the other 15 candidates, at least half of whom were non-toxic?
The other candidates all looked pretty toxic to me.

Of the last three I dearly hope John Kasich doesn't win, he certainly looks the most toxic of the ones remaining, despite what his golly gee 1950s milkman persona might otherwise suggest.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/kasich-we-need-to-punch-the-russians-in-the-nose/


http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczy...an-planes-in-syria-if-they-violate#.oeBknnR3A

http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto.../kasich-syria-no-fly-zones-ground-troops.html

"Punch Russia in the nose", arm Ukrainians against Russians, impose a no-fly zone in Syria and shoot down Russian planes, send US ground troops into Syria to fight ISIS.

The ravings of yet another mad interventionist.
 
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The final weeks of the Republican primary seem to point to the truth of the adage: Nice guys finish last.

With seventeen candidates to choose from, the remaining states are pretty much left with the choice between a bombastic narcissist and a senator whose Washington colleagues, according to Lindsay Graham, would be hard pressed to convict a Cruz assassin, even if the murder occurred on the Senate floor.

Graham also describes the choice between Trump and Cruz as choosing between being shot and being poisoned.

What happened to the other 15 candidates, at least half of whom were non-toxic?

Most of the others were weak, a collection of do-nothing RINOs who have made little effort to push back against Obama. People want someone who will fight, not bow down to every Democrat demand. At least Cruz and Trump will do that.
 
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Well, that was the problem, wasn't it. They were "fighting Obama" but what were they fighting "for?"
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Cruz is still the most consistently conservative and Walker isn't far behind. I like Carson a lot too, though I fear he's too gentle and soft-spoken to rise above the muck and mire of modern politics. I really hope that the next president, regardless of who wins, uses him in their cabinet.

I agree with what you said about Carson.
 
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Most of the others were weak, a collection of do-nothing RINOs who have made little effort to push back against Obama. People want someone who will fight, not bow down to every Democrat demand. At least Cruz and Trump will do that.

i agree with you, except what you said about Cruz. LOL!
 
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