Prominent Catholics urge bishops, cardinals to declare Francis has ‘lost the papal office’ if he refuses to resign

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God's ways are not man's ways. He does not need the largest army, nor a majority vote to bring about His will. He does use faithful men, even if few, and often their sufferings even to martyrdom, to break the hearts of the complacent and ignite -or reignite - His flame of love in His Holy Bride.

Are you trying to say that conspiracies among men seeking to do evil do not exist? Or that the word "conspiracy" is itself a fictional idea? Did the authorities of Jerusalem not conspire to put Jesus to death, and later, to silence the trouble-making followers of Jesus?
Not every commentary on Scripture is reliable.
Just be careful man. That is all I am saying. I am starting to not like Francis either, but there is nothing we can do, besides worship God alone, and not worry about these Earthly things.

Bible Analysis on Fear (Isaiah and Psalm are good ones to remember)

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VerseMatthew 6:25-34 (ESV): "Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life? And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? Therefore do not be anxious, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For the Gentiles seek all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

Isaiah 41:10 (ESV): "Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand."

Psalm 46:1-2 (ESV): "God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore we will not fear though the earth gives way, though the mountains be moved into the heart of the sea."
ExplanationThese three passages from the Bible offer comfort and reassurance to those who are anxious or fearful. Let's examine each passage in turn:

1. Matthew 6:25-34: In this passage, Jesus is teaching his disciples not to be anxious about their basic needs, such as food, clothing, and safety. He reminds them that God takes care of even the smallest creatures, and that they are of greater value than these creatures. Jesus urges them to seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and promises that all their needs will be met. This passage is relevant to our modern anxiety in several ways. We live in a world where there is an abundance of news about conflicts, natural disasters, and other sources of fear and uncertainty. We may also face everyday stressors related to work, relationships, and finances. Jesus' message is that we should trust in God's provision and focus on seeking His kingdom and righteousness, rather than being consumed by our anxieties about the future.

2. Isaiah 41:10: In this passage, God speaks to His people through the prophet Isaiah, reassuring them that He is with them and will strengthen, help, and uphold them. This passage is especially relevant for those who are facing significant challenges or fears, whether related to personal struggles or larger global events. God's promise to be a present help in trouble is a source of comfort and encouragement, reminding us that we are never alone in our struggles.

3. Psalm 46:1-2: This passage from the book of Psalms is a powerful reminder that God is our refuge and strength, and that we can find peace and security in Him, even in the midst of chaos and uncertainty. The image of God as a refuge and strength is a powerful one, and it is a reminder that we can find comfort and security in Him, no matter what is happening in the world around us.
 
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That is true, Catholics are not Sola Scriptura advocates, and I see the point of infallibility to prevent the devil from destroying the Church, but it is starting to, with all this trans stuff. I am not an End Times nut, but maybe we might be nearing the end, or Revelation already happened when Nero was in power in ~60 AD.
Papal infallibility refers to the office, not the man itself. Since 1874 when it was first defined as dogma, it was only used once in 1950 when Pope Pius XII declared the Assumption of the Virgin Mary as dogma.
 
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Papal infallibility refers to the office, not the man itself. Since 1874 when it was first defined as dogma, it was only used once in 1950 when Pope Pius XII declared the Assumption of the Virgin Mary as dogma.
So, the office of the Pope can not fail, but a Pope can?
 
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So, the office of the Pope can not fail, but a Pope can?
The only time a pope speaks infallibly is ex-cathedra. As a human being, he is like the rest of us.
 
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The only time a pope speaks infallibly is ex-cathedra. As a human being, he is like the rest of us.
Yeah, when given full authority by the office of the Vatican, if I am not mistaken.
 
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Yeah, when given full authority by the office of the Vatican, if I am not mistaken.
Right. Before anything is spike infallibly, it has to go through theologians, cardinals, etc. it’s not a willynilly process.
 
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From the article:

The seventeen signatories comprise a mixture of academics, activists in various spheres of ecclesial life, and one priest:

  • Rev. Linus F. Clovis, Ph. D., MSc, JCL, STB
  • Yves Daoudal: Editor-in-chief of Reconquête and Vice-President of the Charlier Center
  • Dániel Fülep: Theologian, Hungary
  • Maria Guarini: Editor, Chiesa e post concilio
  • Michael Kakooza, Ph. D.: Strategic Management, Eastern Africa
  • Thaddeus J. Kozinski, Ph. D.: Professor of Philosophy, Memoria College
  • Peter A. Kwasniewski, Ph. D.
  • John R.T. Lamont, DPhil
  • John Rist, Ph. D.: Professor of Classics and early Christian Philosophy and Theology (ret.)
  • Dr Cesar Felix Sánchez Martínez: Professor of Philosophy, Universidad Nacional de San Agustin, Peru
  • Wolfram Schrems, Mag. theol., Mag. phil.
  • Peter Stephan, Dr. phil. habil: Professor of Architecture Theory & Art History, University of Applied Sciences, Potsdam
  • Anna Silvas, Ph. D.: Specialist in Greek Fathers, UNE, Australia (ret.)
  • John-Henry Westen, M.A.: Founder and Editor, LifeSiteNews
  • Michael Wiitala, Ph. D.: Associate Lecturer in Philosophy, Cleveland State University
  • Elizabeth F. Yore, Esq.: Founder, Yore Children
  • John Zmirak, Ph. D.: Senior Editor, The Stream

None are prominent Catholics. In fact, only one has the title, Rev. Is he a Catholic priest or
something else?

There are plenty of Cardinals, Bishops, Clergy, Catholic theologians and lay people who support
Pope Francis. The USCCB here in the US, support Pope Francis and this includes
Bishop Barron.

Also, the article is from Lifesitenews, which is not Catholic and the members hate Pope Francis
and will publish anything negative about him.
 
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Didn’t he once say something about the possibility of resigning like Pope Benedict in the future?
He’s said it a few time but it appears he’s backtracked on that.
 
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Didn’t he once say something about the possibility of resigning like Pope Benedict in the future?
Then I think he changed his mind.

I actually think pope's resigning is not a good thing. Overall anyway.
 
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Then I think he changed his mind.

I actually think pope's resigning is not a good thing. Overall anyway.
I think he should finish his time as pope until he passes away. But that’s easy for me to say since it’s not me.
 
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I think he should finish his time as pope until he passes away. But that’s easy for me to say since it’s not me.
I have a problem with pope Francis, as is fairly obvious. He should be silent and live a life of quiet prayer and reparation. Not resign. IMHO. Of course we should all speak less and pray more and concentrate on reparation for our sins.
 
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Dr Peter Kwasniewski is extremely prominent in traditional Catholic and TLM circles.
Most Catholics never heard of him, so he's hardly a prominent Catholic and certainly not a voice for the Catholic Church.
 
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