I think I'm unregnerate, reprobate, vessel of wrath, despairing, tried all I can think of

[lisa8107]

Diana,

I was encouraged to read all of your posts to know that there was someone who felt just like me. I was full of pride and rebellion and I am a completely wretched sinner without Him We all have a common denominator. We need a Savior. We need help with our unbelief. I know one thing, I do not want to go to hell and I believe that Jesus will not cast out any that come to Him.

Blessings to You,

Lisa

 

[Chris0699]

Diana,

I was encouraged to read all of your posts to know that there was someone who felt just like me. I was full of pride and rebellion and I am a completely wretched sinner without Him We all have a common denominator. We need a Savior. We need help with our unbelief. I know one thing, I do not want to go to hell and I believe that Jesus will not cast out any that come to Him.

Blessings to You,

Lisa

I am making myself a massive hypocrite here, but I feel I must say this. Don't run the risk of being content that you merely can or want to come to Christ, but you need to do it, and without delay. Not that I would have actual experience, I am repeating what I have heard from sermons. And when you do, please put in a word for.me if you would be willing. Here's a piece from R.A. Torrey that may be helpful to you. R.A. Torrey - THE DEVIL HAS ENTERED ME!

 

[ldonjohn]

I've struggled with my overthinking, worrying about every possible scenario. I'm beginning to really believe that it a lie and deception that God has cut me off. And I'm beginning to believe He is loving and wants to be with even me. I still struggle but do have hope. Thank you for your post.

Hi, Diana, it's me again, John, and I am encouraged by your posts.

God has not cut you off, Diana. Think about what Jesus did for you. He is God who stepped out of heaven and became a man
so He could die a horrible death on a cross to pay the penalty for your sin. Why would He cut you off after suffering such a horrible death so He could save you? Well, He has not cut you off, and He never will as long as you live. He is waiting with open arms for you to come to Him and receive Him into your life. All you have to do is ask. He will not turn you away.

John

 

[lisa8107]

I am making myself a massive hypocrite here, but I feel I must say this. Don't run the risk of being content that you merely can or want to come to Christ, but you need to do it, and without delay. Not that I would have actual experience, I am repeating what I have heard from sermons. And when you do, please put in a word for.me if you would be willing. Here's a piece from R.A. Torrey that may be helpful to you. R.A. Torrey - THE DEVIL HAS ENTERED ME!

I really like this piece from R.A. Torrey. Thanks!

 

[ldonjohn]

I really like this piece from R.A. Torrey. Thanks!

Just read that myself and I loved it!

John

 

[jojl]

Hey , i saw your post about “i am a vessel of wrath”
i find your post because i was searching “ what if i am a vessel of wrath”
i see exactly what i am going through right now on what you share in your post. i am 18 years old boy from japan. I’m sorry my english is bad but all the things you said is exactly what i am thinking , feeling , going through. i don’t know if you may see this but if it’s okay i wanna talk to you. I hope you will see. Maybe this was a leading of God
because i was really thinking “ am i the only one who is like this? “ but then i saw your post to be honest i was kinda glad im not the only one. And i just thought maybe this is the sign we are the vessel of mercy because God’s says
“No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.”
‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭10:13‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

so i just wanna talk to you more ,to share eachother experience, encouraging each other. i hope you will see this post.

 

[Chris0699]

Hey , i saw your post about “i am a vessel of wrath”
i find your post because i was searching “ what if i am a vessel of wrath”
i see exactly what i am going through right now on what you share in your post. i am 18 years old boy from japan. I’m sorry my english is bad but all the things you said is exactly what i am thinking , feeling , going through. i don’t know if you may see this but if it’s okay i wanna talk to you. I hope you will see. Maybe this was a leading of God
because i was really thinking “ am i the only one who is like this? “ but then i saw your post to be honest i was kinda glad im not the only one. And i just thought maybe this is the sign we are the vessel of mercy because God’s says
“No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.”
‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭10:13‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

so i just wanna talk to you more ,to share eachother experience, encouraging each other. i hope you will see this post.

Hi jojl,

I don't think anyone is really watching this thread anymore. That said, I'm not sure what kind of encouragement would work for you beyond getting out of this state ASAP. This is the situation - imagine you are on a ship going somewhere, the ship you are on has struck rocks, the hull has broken, and the ship is taking on water. You hear the captain say "abandon ship!". What do you do? Get a lifeboat and abandon ship or take your chances, go to the casino to blow some money and have a few drinks? Get out of this state as fast as possible while you can, or else you will wind up like me, living it up in the casino while the ship is sinking without a care. Go to Christ while you can. You don't have forever. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but if you take the advice, I don't think you will be disappointed. And please pray for me if you do successfully get out of this state. Thank you.

Chris

 

[jojl]

Hi jojl,

I don't think anyone is really watching this thread anymore. That said, I'm not sure what kind of encouragement would work for you beyond getting out of this state ASAP. This is the situation - imagine you are on a ship going somewhere, the ship you are on has struck rocks, the hull has broken, and the ship is taking on water. You hear the captain say "abandon ship!". What do you do? Get a lifeboat and abandon ship or take your chances, go to the casino to blow some money and have a few drinks? Get out of this state as fast as possible while you can, or else you will wind up like me, living it up in the casino while the ship is sinking without a care. Go to Christ while you can. You don't have forever. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but if you take the advice, I don't think you will be disappointed. And please pray for me if you do successfully get out of this state. Thank you.

Chris

Hey Chris

Thank you for reply to my post
And i appreciate your advice, i agree with that the only way to life is Jesus
He is the way , so i will try my best (so be it God) to abide in His word , and I don’t know if i have a right to say this “so do you Chris”
He is our lifeboat
we can still abide in His word , are we His vessel of mercy? we don’t know but we can try our best to abide in Him and obey Him even we can’t feel it. im also saying this word to myself because in Hell there’s no hope anymore but while we are in here on earth we can still try our best. maybe that’s what God
want from us to sacrifice our all life for Him.
and if we did that it means it is His power working in us

“Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2:12-13‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

you didn’t probably ask for advice but i feel you, and i know don’t have right to say all these thing but that’s all we can do. let’s pray for God’s mercy to eachother.
thank you again for replying.

 

[Kyle W]

Same here, jojl. I don't know if I'm there, but I feel like I might be in the same situation as Chris. I pray that I'm not.

 

[B98]

Hey guys, I read through this entire thread and only now got around to making an account. I'm in the same boat as Diana and Chris, probably worse off if that's even possible. Reading Diana's posts made me feel like I was reading about myself. I've been a narcissist my entire life with ongoing sin, I remember very distinctly a time probably before I was even a teenager that I think I stopped feeling the conviction of the Holy Spirit. Since then I've lived in horrible sin, got on medications at one point, currently dependant on an antidepressant. I've never held a realistic view of myself and now that I've learned about all that's wrong with myself I realize I'm most likely reprobate. I know the Bible is 100% true but I don't have saving faith, I have the faith of the demons and sometimes I can trick myself into feeling false assurance but when I think about who I am and what I've done it's again replaced by a crippling fear of Hell. I had some bad experiences during childhood and my parents both have impaired/nonexistant empathy so I was able to hide my feelings from them and shut them out of my life, the things that happened to me, and the things I'd done. I'm feeling pretty hopeless and it's been this way for as long as I can remember. I basically rejected God and I don't see a way back. I want a way back, I don't want to burn in Hell, and I want to know what love is. This is a really short explanation but I've been telling people my life story trying to find help for the last month or so so I guess I'll post as things come to me. Feel free to ask questions. Thanks

 

[Of the Kingdom]

Hey guys, I read through this entire thread and only now got around to making an account. I'm in the same boat as Diana and Chris, probably worse off if that's even possible. Reading Diana's posts made me feel like I was reading about myself. I've been a narcissist my entire life with ongoing sin, I remember very distinctly a time probably before I was even a teenager that I think I stopped feeling the conviction of the Holy Spirit. Since then I've lived in horrible sin, got on medications at one point, currently dependant on an antidepressant. I've never held a realistic view of myself and now that I've learned about all that's wrong with myself I realize I'm most likely reprobate.

No one is reprobate. Every person on Earth is either saved and on the way to Heaven, or not saved and therefore on their way to Hell, unless God reaches out to them and invites them into the Kingdom. The scripture says, "Seek me with all of your heart, and you will find me."

The truth is that Jesus cared so much about you that He was willing to give His life for you, and that He will pursue you to the ends of the Earth to give you an opportunity to accept His love.

I know the Bible is 100% true but I don't have saving faith, I have the faith of the demons and sometimes I can trick myself into feeling false assurance but when I think about who I am and what I've done it's again replaced by a crippling fear of Hell. I had some bad experiences during childhood and my parents both have impaired/nonexistant empathy so I was able to hide my feelings from them and shut them out of my life, the things that happened to me, and the things I'd done.

When Satan reminds you of your past, remind him of his future. Unlike Satan, you have the ability to accept Jesus' offer of salvation. Pray about it.

I'm feeling pretty hopeless and it's been this way for as long as I can remember. I basically rejected God and I don't see a way back. I want a way back, I don't want to burn in Hell, and I want to know what love is. This is a really short explanation but I've been telling people my life story trying to find help for the last month or so so I guess I'll post as things come to me.

Your statement assures me that you either are saved, or are willing to listen when Jesus calls you to His side. How you feel is irrelevant to whether Jesus is reaching out to you or not.

My prayers go out to you, that you may both know and worship Jesus.

 

[jojl]

Same here, jojl. I don't know if I'm there, but I feel like I might be in the same situation as Chris. I pray that I'm not.

hey kyle
all we can do is continue to abide in His word. It’s hard (I don’t know if i can do that)but if we belong to Him , some where in our life
He will deal our heart to turn back to Him.
He will give us desire , strength to obey Him

 

[B98]

No one is reprobate. Every person on Earth is either saved and on the way to Heaven, or not saved and therefore on their way to Hell, unless God reaches out to them and invites them into the Kingdom. The scripture says, "Seek me with all of your heart, and you will find me."

The truth is that Jesus cared so much about you that He was willing to give His life for you, and that He will pursue you to the ends of the Earth to give you an opportunity to accept His love.



When Satan reminds you of your past, remind him of his future. Unlike Satan, you have the ability to accept Jesus' offer of salvation. Pray about it.



Your statement assures me that you either are saved, or are willing to listen when Jesus calls you to His side. How you feel is irrelevant to whether Jesus is reaching out to you or not.

My prayers go out to you, that you may both know and worship Jesus.

I really hope you're right. I appreciate the reply. I pray every day and I'm going to keep praying until the day I die. I feel that God already gave me my chance and I failed Him miserably, I can only hope He'll give me another and that I'll be able to recognize it. Thinking about God gives me so much anxiety that it's hard not to think I've been given over to a reprobate mind. My mind is consumed by anxiety and sin all day every day no matter how hard I try to think about other things. It's like satanic OCD. The only things that motivate me are sin and I'm not capable of being genuinely kind to people. It's going to take nothing short of an act of God to change me and I pray He does.

 

[Of the Kingdom]

It's going to take nothing short of an act of God to change me

I pray also that He will. Do you believe that he died for sinners, and arose triumphantly?

You are not alone. You may be interested in the OCD forum:

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

 

[B98]

I pray also that He will. Do you believe that he died for sinners, and arose triumphantly?

You are not alone. You may be interested in the OCD forum:

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

I do but I also believe I've committed the unpardonable sin by ignoring the urgings of the Holy Spirit and continuing in my sin and I think the depths of my sin and depravation are evidence I've been given over to a reprobate mind. It seems that God hasn't granted me saving faith at this point, and if He doesn't work in me with the Holy Spirit then I won't be able to repent. I wish I'd known what I know now a long time ago.

 

[jojl]

Hey guys, I read through this entire thread and only now got around to making an account. I'm in the same boat as Diana and Chris, probably worse off if that's even possible. Reading Diana's posts made me feel like I was reading about myself. I've been a narcissist my entire life with ongoing sin, I remember very distinctly a time probably before I was even a teenager that I think I stopped feeling the conviction of the Holy Spirit. Since then I've lived in horrible sin, got on medications at one point, currently dependant on an antidepressant. I've never held a realistic view of myself and now that I've learned about all that's wrong with myself I realize I'm most likely reprobate. I know the Bible is 100% true but I don't have saving faith, I have the faith of the demons and sometimes I can trick myself into feeling false assurance but when I think about who I am and what I've done it's again replaced by a crippling fear of Hell. I had some bad experiences during childhood and my parents both have impaired/nonexistant empathy so I was able to hide my feelings from them and shut them out of my life, the things that happened to me, and the things I'd done. I'm feeling pretty hopeless and it's been this way for as long as I can remember. I basically rejected God and I don't see a way back. I want a way back, I don't want to burn in Hell, and I want to know what love is. This is a really short explanation but I've been telling people my life story trying to find help for the last month or so so I guess I'll post as things come to me. Feel free to ask questions. Thanks

hey , same things happen to me
i started to lost conviction,
repentance heart , shame on sin , regret , fear to God. and now i don’t even know if i really haved that.
i deliberately sin , inappropriate contentographic , masturbation, arrogance , pride , compromising with nonbelievers.

and i wanna share about you what is written in Bible about love and faith
first Faith comes from God

“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2:8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

And faith work by love
“For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Love is agape in Bible it means you obey to His command.

“This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.”
‭‭II John‬ ‭1:6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

And faith wil start with little faith , remember when Jesus told to His dicisple “Oh you little faith”

“And the apostles said to the Lord, “Increase our faith.””
‭‭Luke‬ ‭17:5‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

So it start will small trust to God , believing in God , obedience to God and God His self gave that so it is His work to grow that Faith.
if God gave you/us that Faith He will finished it until the end. That is the saving Faith

“looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12:2‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭1:6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

God will grow our Faith through Fire , fire is trials , struggle , persecution , descipline,
if God gave us faith and we are disobedient to Him He will descipline us so we will learn to obey His command, like what He did to the Israelites


“It is good for me that I have been afflicted, That I may learn Your statutes.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭119:71‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

God doesn’t give faith to everybody , to only who does who He want to save and go to Heaven. And we will know as we get old if He gave to us that Faith
He will deal my/your heart ,we will have Holy fear to Him, we will have strength or desire to go back to Him again ,we search His word again ,He will give His rebuke , word to us and He will grow our assurance to the salvation.
i wish i share the all scripture if i notice something was missing i will send it to you again.

 

[Of the Kingdom]

if He doesn't work in me with the Holy Spirit

That's your answer, right there. You seem to have way too much faith in yourself, and not enough in God. I pray that you will cease to believe in yourself, and depend on Jesus only for salvation.

 

[jojl]

i apology I didn’t read exactly your text, i misinterpreted.

 

[B98]

That's your answer, right there. You seem to have way too much faith in yourself, and not enough in God. I pray that you will cease to believe in yourself, and depend on Jesus only for salvation.

I think I passed the point of no return a long time ago and it feels like all I'm doing is keeping myself from accepting my doom. Accepting it is maddening. I don't want to and I won't if just to keep myself sane. I really do hope there's hope for me but I was raised in a "Christian" family that at least exposed me to the gospel and send me to a Christian school so I feel like if I was going to be saved it would have happened by now. I have absolute faith God exists but thay faith leads me to believe He's going to destroy me. I'm not sure what to do at this point other than pray He has mercy and continue to read the Bible and hope the Holy Spirit might come into me.

 

[Chris0699]

I pray also that He will. Do you believe that he died for sinners, and arose triumphantly?

You are not alone. You may be interested in the OCD forum:

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

I would hope @Of the Kingdom that you would be willing to pray for me as well. Thank you. Chris