How LOST are the SHEEP?

[Guojing]

Israel has always been a nation. What don’t you understand about what I’m saying. Anything pertaining to the laws , covenant, adoptions, promises is for Israel biblically I have the scriptures so unless you are ethnically an Israelite is the only way Christ is coming for you.. that’s out of his mouth

Are you aware that, prior to 1948, for so many years, the nation of Israel did not exist on the map?

 

[Daniel Malik]

Are you aware that, prior to 1948, for so many years, the nation of Israel did not exist on the map?

Can we talk about the Bible ? In the Bible the nation of Israel I’m not talking about “Jewish” people. I’m talking about Jews

 

[Daniel Malik]

I meant all of us Gentile believers, if you want to split hair.

It’s not splitting hairs you are adding to the text which god specifically warns against and you go against him still knowing the text doesn’t say gentiles at all but it say saints which is different. You need to correct your self and come to the understand of Romans 9:1-5

 

[Daniel Malik]

Are you aware that, prior to 1948, for so many years, the nation of Israel did not exist on the map?

Is your father Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Or Do you/your nation match any of the signs and wonder that God put on the Children of Israel?

 

[Guojing]

Can we talk about the Bible ? In the Bible the nation of Israel I’m not talking about “Jewish” people. I’m talking about Jews

If you are talking about individual Jews, then I already said I agree with you.

God relates to Jews as individuals now.

God does not currently relate to any nation as a nation now, including Israel.

 

[Daniel Malik]

If you are talking about individual Jews, then I already said I agree with you.

God relates to Jews as individuals now.

God does not currently relate to any nation as a nation now, including Israel.

Bible verse .

 

[Guojing]

It’s not splitting hairs you are adding to the text which god specifically warns against and you go against him still knowing the text doesn’t say gentiles at all but it say saints which is different. You need to correct your self and come to the understand of Romans 9:1-5

All gentile and Jewish believers of the gospel given to Paul (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) are saints.

Do you agree with that?

 

[Guojing]

Bible verse .

Romans 11:11, Romans 11:25, as I stated so many times already

 

[Daniel Malik]

If you are talking about individual Jews, then I already said I agree with you.

God relates to Jews as individuals now.

God does not currently relate to any nation as a nation now, including Israel.

Psalms 147:
19He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel.

20He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.

 

[Daniel Malik]

All gentile and Jewish believers of the gospel given to Paul (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) are saints.

Do you agree with that?

You are severely adding to the text , now it doesn’t even say saints here or gentile. You gotta be more diligent with your studies man. And Jewish isn’t a biblical term they are Jews real Jews don’t need the suffix -ish


15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

 

[Daniel Malik]

Romans 11:11, Romans 11:25, as I stated so many times already

You can’t read. This isn’t productive for me at this point

 

[Guojing]

You are severely adding to the text , now it doesn’t even say saints here or gentile. You gotta be more diligent with your studies man. And Jewish isn’t a biblical term they are Jews real Jews don’t need the suffix -ish

So are you disagreeing?

 

[Guojing]

You can’t read. This isn’t productive for me at this point

As I said, you have a different interpretation of what Paul is saying there.

That is fine, people can give you scripture but they cannot understand for you. We can agree to disagree.

 

[Daniel Malik]

If you are talking about individual Jews, then I already said I agree with you.

God relates to Jews as individuals now.

God does not currently relate to any nation as a nation now, including Israel.

You do know a nation is a collection of people right.

 

[Daniel Malik]

So are you disagreeing?

You are adding to the text and it doesn’t say what you are saying it says I quoted it for you to see. I disagree with your misquoting and misuse of the scriptures

 

[Daniel Malik]

As I said, you have a different interpretation of what Paul is saying there.

That is fine, people can give you scripture but they cannot understand for you. We can agree to disagree.

You disagree with the Bible because you aren’t reading it as it is written. In one verse you say it says gentile but it doesn’t it says saints (different ) and then you said in this one it says saints and it doesn’t say any of that it actually a say brethren. So I just think you can’t read

 

[Daniel Malik]

You can’t read. This isn’t productive for me at this point

Romans 11 doesn’t show god no longer dealing with the nation of Israel

 

[Daniel Malik]

As I said, you have a different interpretation of what Paul is saying there.

That is fine, people can give you scripture but they cannot understand for you. We can agree to disagree.

As I said, you have a different interpretation of what Paul is saying there.

That is fine, people can give you scripture but they cannot understand for you. We can agree to disagree.

Will God ever deal with Israel as a nation or individuals in the future when Christ returns ?

 

[Guojing]

You disagree with the Bible because you aren’t reading it as it is written. In one verse you say it says gentile but it doesn’t it says saints (different ) and then you said in this one it says saints and it doesn’t say any of that it actually a say brethren. So I just think you can’t read

I regard everyone in the Body of Christ, whether Jews or gentiles, as saints.

You don't?

 

[Guojing]

Will God ever deal with Israel as a nation or individuals in the future when Christ returns ?

After Christ return, yes, the entire nation will forever be God's favored nation.

Zechariah 8 has the details.