Genesis 1-3 Timeline Challenge: Can You Resolve the Alleged Contradictions?

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That view is an extra-Biblical construct, at least, when considering just Genesis chapters 1 & 2.
I have no obligation to integrate it into my proto-cosmology...

That said, I do believe in a (dormant) Gap, but that occurred before there was
  • light with which to see [Day 1],
  • air to breathe [Day 2] or
  • dry land to live on [Day 3].

I will share with you some further research to consider.

We are Tripartite Beings:
  • Body
  • Soul
  • Spirit
What God originally created in Genesis was a Soul and Spirit *minus* the Body...

Genesis 2:7
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."


This is why the original couple were naked. They were not clothed with a Body Tabernacle yet...

Genesis 2:25
"And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed."


The Redeemed wish to be clothed with the Glorified Body...

2 Corinthians 5:4
"For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life."


Thus, the couple were 'unclothed' as per the above verse. Here is another example...

Revelation 16:15
"Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame."


Did you catch what the 'shame' is? The shame is our private parts. In other words, the original couple were not ashamed because there was nothing there to be ashamed of. They had no private parts.

When the couple partook of the Forbidden Zygote, they made a Covenant with Death. God then 'clothed' them with corrupt flesh, including the reproductive organs we have now...

Job 10:11
"Thou hast clothed me with skin and flesh, and hast fenced me with bones and sinews."


If anyone is interested, at 25:25 in the following video, this Rabbi explains how we were clothed with the skin we have now...

 
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Christians make the mistake of trying to fit Evolution and/or billions of years into Genesis 1 and 2. Because of this, they have caused themselves to become lost as to what the verses are actually teaching.

The universe that God created in Genesis 1 and 2 was not fallen yet. Therefore, the physics that define our current fallen universe is different.

Those that attempt to match our current fallen state with Genesis 1 and 2 are playing a fool's game. They simply cannot be made to agree. No wonder the Atheists laugh. Christians are constantly 'dumbing down' the Bible into something it is not. God is not an idiot!

If you wish to align the current understandings of our universe with Scripture, you need to focus on the Forbidden Fruit. If there is a so called 'Big Bang', it happened here...

Genesis 3:6
"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."


Boom! Everything changed at that point. Did the original Wave Function Collapse? Do you understand what the Double Slit Experiment is? The observer causes the Wave to become Particle. In other words, it is the act of observing... as in the opening of the Eyes... that causes matter to collapse into a fallen state...

Genesis 3:7
"And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons."


Does anyone know how much time passed after the original couple died? No, of course not. You never even bothered to be a Berean and consider these ideas. You were too busy with your "they died a spiritual death" nonsense.

Did you consider Wheeler's "Participatory Universe" research?

"Wheeler's theory was that, in an analogous manner, consciousness may play some role in bringing the universe into existence."


Well, what do you know? Cutting edge theories about the creation of our universe match the Bible. Isn't that something.
 
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In some religions and cultures, there is something called the 'World Egg' or 'Orphic Egg'...

Orphic-egg.png

Typically, the world egg is a beginning of some sort, and the universe or some primordial being comes into existence by "hatching" from the egg, sometimes lain on the primordial waters of the Earth. The modern cosmological versions of this idea are called the emergent Universe scenarios.


See the Serpent? See the Egg being fertilized? That is the Forbidden Fruit. It is a Zygote. It created the fallen universe we are in.

The Bible is teaching this concept.
 
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Here is what the Forbidden Fruit is...

Revelation 17:4
"And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication"


Yep. It was there the whole time. Why did you not understand? Did your Church tell you that Mystery Babylon is the Catholic Church? No wonder you are so lost. You are too busy being filled with hate and pride to be corrected.

The Golden Cup, aka the Forbidden Fruit, is the Sperm and Ovum combined into the Zygote. And guess what? We all partook in order to be conceived...

Jeremiah 51:7
"Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD’S hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad."


The nations are every nation that has ever existed going back to Adam and Eve. She was there, and so was he...

John 8:44
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."


What, you thought it was some sort of 'figure of speech'? You think Jesus was not being literal because 'that is too uncomfortable' to believe?

Did you 'spiritualize away' the plain literal understanding? You may as well have said that Jesus lied. That is what you already believe.

Here is the Mystery revealed: Mystery Babylon and Satan are symbolic of our corrupt Biology going all the way back to Eden. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil represent Mystery Babylon's Ovary. The Serpent fertilized it. We all partook and here we are. We need Jesus to re-clothe us with non-corrupted Biology. It is that simple.

Wake up while there is still time.
 
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So far, no one (except me) has an explanation as to why that is.
I believe that Adam is the first male in the bloodline to Christ. And I believe that the males and females created on the 6th day are totally separate-they are told to replenish the earth. It's the only thing that makes sense- especially knowing Cain was able to find a wife (his name means oriental tribe, etc) east of Eden. I don't believe he married a sister as many claim. If he was banished, he certainly wouldn't be allowed to hang around to do so. And it's very clear that Seth was the next in line after Abel up to that point. So I do believe the earth was populated so Cain would be able to find a wife. He also feared someone would kill him. He dwelt in the land of Nod. That's an entirely different place -already named. The only way this makes any sense is if the earth is populated somewhat by that time.

I've heard all the arguments about Adam and Eve possibly having other children before Seth but I don't believe that's the case with Seth specifically stated as the next in line after Abel. It only states Adam begat sons and daughters after Seth.

And it's the only thing that makes sense where wildlife/animals are concerned with both creation timelines including the animals of the oceans and certain animals on land. Adam was basically a farmer/tiller of the ground. Eve is called the mother of all living because it is through her bloodline that we do receive life.

And we know Adam can mean mankind or the specific Adam in the garden.

If I let the scriptures speak for themselves I don't see contradictions. The contradictions are only there if someone is trying to fit the same creation in both chapters. And I don't believe we would have a creation story just to reiterate the same creation story back to back with contradictions. I see them as different.

Even the verse in Acts where it states from one blood/man all nations were created -blood or man was not in the manuscripts.

The bible is not a complete history book and we shouldn't read it as such. God certainly gives us enough of the beginning, his overall plan but we don't have the complete historical picture of everything. We have Adam's bloodline and those that come into contact with that bloodline all leading up to Christ. First Adam/last Adam.



I'm not really looking to debate this- been there done that many times but just wanted to state my beliefs about the so called differences.
 
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Two separate events.
1. The six days of creation in chapter 1.
2. At some point later, the creation of Adam and Eve and the fall.
This assumes that the creation of man in the 1st chapter was pre-Adam and Eve and that after being ejected from the garden, the children of Adam and Eve mixed with the descendants of those created on day 6.
The principal stickler is the scripture, which says Eve was the mother of all living.
 
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Scripture is filled with juxtaposition and opposites. We can use this to our advantage whenever we get stuck trying to decipher a Mystery.

Take the Forbidden Fruit for example. What was it? Grapes, Pomegranates, Apples? To find out, all we have to do is look at its opposite in the Tree of Life...

Revelation 22:2
"In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."


We know that 'Fruit' can mean 'Child' in Scripture...

Exodus 21:22
"If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine."


If we use the Kingdom of God Within as our guide, we discover that 'yielding her Fruit every month' is a euphemism for a Woman's menstrual cycle. This means that the Fruit are representative of Ovum. This can be further proven by adding more evidence...

Galatians 4:26
"But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all."


Heavenly Jerusalem is our Mother in Heaven. Obviously, this is literal. New Jerusalem represents the Heavenly Womb by which the Redeemed become Born Again... yes literally.

Of course, the Ovum would not be complete without fertilization. No problem. The River of Life flows from the Masculine Throne to accomplish this task...

Revelation 22:1
"And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb."


The Water of Life represents the Seminal Fluid that delivers Abraham's Seed to fertilize Sarah's Ovary Tree. Think Water Baptism. :) The Lamb of course is Abraham's Seed...

Galatians 3:16
"Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ."


The opposite of the New Jerusalem Mother/Womb of Sarah is Hagar...

Galatians 4:24 (English Standard Version)
Now this may be
interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar.


Hagar not only represents the Old Testament and being bound by the Law, but she also represents the Earthly Womb of Earthly Jerusalem...

Galatians 4:25 (New International Version)
Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children.


Thus, we have:
  • Sarah = Heavenly Womb of New Jerusalem
  • Hagar = Earthly Womb of Earthly Jerusalem
Viewing this from the Garden of Eden perspective we have:
  • Sarah = Heavenly Womb of New Jerusalem = TREE OF LIFE
  • Hagar = Earthly Womb of Earthly Jerusalem = TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL
Two Mothers, two Covenants, two Tabernacle Ovum, two Great Cities. One gives birth to bondage. One gives birth to freedom.

Long story short, Adam and the Woman were given two choices as to which of the two Zygotes they would like to be Born Again into. In other words, they had a choice of which PARENTS they wanted, as well as what BODY TYPE to be 'clothed' with. They were naked, remember?

They chose BONDAGE. They chose the Zygote of Mystery Babylon, the corrupt Ovum fertilized by the Serpent. They chose the Golden Cup full of filthiness of her fornication with the Serpent. God clothed them according to the COVENANT they made...

Job 10:11
"Thou hast clothed me with skin and flesh, and hast fenced me with bones and sinews."


Now you know what the Forbidden Fruit is. You're welcome. :cool:
 
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The is the real end of Gen 1
The Bible has no structure at all. No chapters, so verses, so sentences. It is like the lyrics for a song without the music. All of the Bible is a song although that is much more pronounced with David compared to Moses. If people knew how much of the Torah is a part of the oral tradition rather than written they would be surprised. The oral tradition is said to go back to Abraham and even back to Adam. There is some indication that Moses copied the written part of the bible from Clay tablets.
 
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Heavenly Jerusalem is our Mother in Heaven.
This is crazy. Paul is telling us that Sarah is our mother and we are born into the New Jerusalem in Heaven. The New Jerusalem on Earth is 1500 1500 by 1500 miles. (air and mineral rights) This is the entire Arab continental plate. Abraham had to walk this land to claim it for his descendants. As gentiles we are adopted into the family. So Sarah is not our natural matriarch as she is for Israel and Judah and all the others descendants of Sarah. Hagar is the mother of the Arab people today that control the land given to Abraham and his descendants. Sarah's children control a very small area compared to Hagar's children. At least right now.

I think I will be given some sort of a condo there and this is where I will stay when we get to go there once a years for the feast of tabernacles. If not me personally than this would be my descendants that are alive at that time during the 1,000 year reign of Christ. Zechariah 14:16 talks about this. "16Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles". The survivors being the people who survive the transition from the church age to the kingdom age.

Some people say 10% some people say one third. Jesus says many and few but this means majority and minority. More then half or less than half. If you only get one third of the votes that is going to be very difficult to dispute. I have ancestors that fought in the crusades' to gain control of the land that is rightfully ours. An area that is still hotly disputed today.
 
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The is the real end of Gen 1

Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts. 2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made earth and heaven

And obviously - there were no chapter divisions or verses in the manuscripts written or copied until many centuries later. So I am talking about the artificial inserts/division added later when I point out that the break should have been after vs 4.
It is two different accounts, even the order of creation is different. We must accept this if we want to be honest with the text.
 
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Earth was without form (two-dimensional plan/concept) and void (no volume) at that point.
not true.

"Waters covered the surface of the deep"

Water exists - a real material substance
"the surface of the deep" -- being covered by water - means the rocks of Earth existed.
Our universe did not even exist on the First Day
not true.

Even Earth with its water and its "surface of the deep" existed -- just as the text says.

Your solution is in "ignoring details in the text" so far.
. Regardless, the Heaven/Earth creation process was completed on the Third Day.
vs one is a summary statement of all creation.

vs two gives the starting condition in the story/account - for Earth

vs 3 begins day 1 with "Then God said" as is the case with the start of all the days in the 7 day week of Gen 1-2 and Ex 20:11

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 And the earth was a formless and desolate emptiness, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. 3 Then God said,


I see you ignored the next verse...

Genesis 2:5 (New Living Translation)
"Neither wild plants nor grains were growing on the earth. For the LORD God had not yet sent rain to water the earth, and there were no people to cultivate the soil."


No wild plants or grains existing
Gen 2 is not a NEW day 1 -- it is also not a chronological time-boxed sequence. IT merely adds details to the existing sequence already given.
There is NO Bible basis for "DELETE each chapter you read and start over with each succeeding chapter".

I guess we all knew that.

I.e., Man created *before* plants. How can that happen on the Sixth Day?
Man created before the garden of Eden. In any case - chapter 2 is not in the same format as the time-boxed chronological sequence of chapter 1.

But your delete-and-start over model leaves you with no air for mankind in Gen 2. No sun, no oceans etc.

You need to re-think your proposal.
 
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I am putting forth a challenge. See if you can make the Genesis 1 through Genesis 3 timelines agree with each other and not contradict as Wikipedia (and other sources) claim.

According to Wikipedia, Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 contradict one another:

“The overlapping stories of Genesis 1 and 2 are contradictory but also complementary, with the first (the Priestly story) concerned with the creation of the entire cosmos while the second (the Jahwist story) focuses on man as moral agent and cultivator of his environment.”

Even the order and method of creation differs.”



Did God make mistakes? If you agree with Wikipedia, let us know why.

Basic Rules:
  • You are not allowed to take away from and/or add words to the verses.
  • Use any translation you wish (mix and match is OK).
  • The word ‘day’ must be interpreted as twenty-four hours or less.
  • The interpretation of the phrase ‘surely die’ must be consistent with its usage elsewhere in the Bible.
  • Use as many or as few verses as needed.
  • Your interpretation must not contradict either Old Testament or New Testament.
I will submit my entry in the next post.
I would have definitely wanted to take on this challenge.
However, rule #3 makes void the challenge since (1) it starts with a false assumption, and thus nullifies the rest of Genesis, including Genesis 2:4, and (2) it is at odds with, #6, as it contradicts both the "Old Testament or New Testament".
 
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My Submission to the Challenge:

Genesis 2:4 (KJV)
“These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens”


Commentary:
The verse begins a series of ‘recaps’ of Genesis 1 with additional details being added. The focus here is on the Third Day, when the Heavens and Earth were completed and ready for its first form of life.

Genesis 2:5 (New Living Translation)
"Neither wild plants nor grains were growing on the earth. For the LORD God had not yet sent rain to water the earth, and there were no people to cultivate the soil."


Commentary:
We have confirmation that the previous verse is focusing in on the Third Day. Moreover, we are at the moment of time when no plants, and therefore no life, existed.

What was the first form of life created on the Third Day?

Genesis 2:7 (KJV)
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."


Commentary:
As we can clearly see, we have an issue. Christians are told that Man was originally created on the Sixth Day. According to the Bible however, Man was originally created on the Third Day. Who is correct? Does the dogma of the Church get to overrule what is written? Heaven forbid.

For clarity, I will refer to this being as the ‘First Adam’. Note that Jesus is the ‘Last Adam’ who rose on the Third Day. Perfect! Scripture is aligning with Scripture. Continuing on, we find that the very next verse aligns with Plants being made next on the Third Day…

Genesis 2:8
"And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed."


Commentary:
According to the verse, Man was already formed before the Plants, obviously. Interestingly, God started with a Garden first, rather than filling the entire planet with plant life. This makes sense from a geoengineering perspective. Start small, then work your way up.

Genesis 2:9
"And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil."


Commentary:
God begins to make Trees. They are pleasing to the eye and good for food. We are obviously still on the Third Day.

Genesis 2:17
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."


Commentary:
Continuing within the Third Day, God gives a strict command to the First Adam to not partake of the Forbidden Fruit or else he will die on that very day. Note that there is nothing here to suggest that the First Adam would ‘die spiritually’ or ‘begin to die’ or ‘be separated from God’, etc. Those are false Church dogmas inserted into the text. Now, since no Animals have been created yet, the First Adam is truly all alone. No problem, God has a solution…

Genesis 2:18
"And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."


Commentary:
The verse above makes it clear that the First Adam was alone because no Animals were created yet.

Genesis 2:19 (New Heart English Bible)
And out of the ground God formed every tame animal, and every wild animal, and every flying creature of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.


Commentary:
The timeline jumps to the Fifth Day (creation of flying creatures) and then to the Sixth Day (creation of tame and wild Animals). Note that something very important just occurred. A Law was made. Did you catch it? Whenever God creates a living being, Adam must name it. Moreover, whatever Adam ‘calls’ the newly formed being, that was its name.

Genesis 2:22
"And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man."


Commentary:
Because the Animals were not sufficient help, God creates a new being called ‘Ishshah’. Most Bibles translate this word as ‘Woman’. Note that this is not Eve! Nowhere does the name Eve show up until after the Fall. Now, according to the Law, Adam must name this newly created being…

Genesis 2:23 (KJV)
"And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."


Commentary:
Adam ‘calls’ the new being ‘Ishshah’, thus that was her name. Again, it was not Eve. Note that Ishshah was named by the method by which she was created. This is a common theme in the Bible. Jacob was the 'heal grabber' etc. Eve was created by a different method, and thus as we will soon see, was consequently named per said method.

And so it was, when the First Adam, along with his Wife Ishshah, partook of the Forbidden Fruit, they died on that very day. Not only did they die the First Death, but they also died the Second Death…

Genesis 3:6 (KJV)
"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."


The phrase ‘surely die’ means ‘dying ye shall die’ or ‘dying the First Death, ye shall die the Second Death’. And that is precisely what happened, all within the Sixth Day. The couple became dust of the ground.

Here is a study on what the phrase ‘surely die’ means…


And finally, Scripture gives us a foreshadow of the Resurrection of Damnation…

Genesis 3:7 (KJV)
"And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons."


Because the couple became dust of the ground, God had to resurrect them. Note that this was not the Resurrection of Glory, but rather the Resurrection of Damnation. Their eyes were opened because the dead are asleep and must be awakened. Did God lie? Of course not. Did the Word of God contradict? No. God then proceeded to recreate the couple as per Genesis 1:27…

Genesis 1:27 (KJV)
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


As mentioned previously, a new method of creation requires a new name...

Genesis 3:20
"And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living."


Again, according to the Law, every time God creates something new, Adam must name it. And of course, for obvious reasons, the couple had to be given a new Covering of skin and flesh as part of the Resurrection process…

Job 10:11
“Thou hast clothed me with skin and flesh, and hast fenced me with bones and sinews.”


No, God did not ‘kill and animal’ and dress them like the Flintstones.

And there we have it. Wikipedia and all the other false teachers out there have been thoroughly debunked.
I have not gotten to the end of your post, but already, your post has violated your rules #1 and #6.
FAILED :crossmark:
You can have a :hamburger: for the effort though. :D
 
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We are not to take away or add to the Word of God...

The challenge is to see if anyone can follow the rules laid out by Scripture.
It's better the original poster lead by example. I have not seen that.

In other words, the rules make it difficult for folks to cheat and force the text into saying something it does not. :)
Not from what I have seen in your posts.

In other words, the phrase 'surely die' becomes as literal and consistent as with every other instance and usage in the Bible. :)
Not that I think it's a spiritual death, but to be fair, the scriptures refer to spiritual death, so if you are saying it must be consistent with the usage in the Bible, why are you determining only one usage?
Is that being consistent, or cheating?
 
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You believe Adam and his Wife had reproductive organs before the Fall?

That would mean they would be having sex and procreating while eating of the Tree of Life.

How would the babies age if they ate of the Tree?

Is that what happens in the New Jerusalem? People making babies in Heaven? I thought everyone was a Son of God?

Speaking of Ovulation, the Tree of Life has a monthly period...

Revelation 22:2
"In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."


So that is what the Fruit is. The Mystery is finally solved. :)
You're adding - breaking your rule #1.
You're saying that God created Adam and Eve without reproductive organs, then rested from all his works, then got to work again to create reproductive organs?
Where is that written in scripture?
 
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