Feds need banks to help track Bible buyers

[Vambram]

Nobody here is supporting Christian imperialism and it is very disingenuous to imply that anyone here is.

 

[The Barbarian]

You are correct. It is shameful that they are also monitoring other Americans of other faiths. I appreciate your pointing out these transgressions also.

Great point. While it is true that right-wing terrorism is the major cause of terrorism deaths in America, they are not all Christians. I wonder of Jains , Quakers and Sufis are also spied upon, and who keeps track of how much money is wasted thereby.

 

[Vambram]

While it is true that right-wing terrorism is the major cause of terrorism deaths in America,

Can you actually really prove this assertion?

 

[The Barbarian]

While it is true that right-wing terrorism is the major cause of terrorism deaths in America,

Can you actually really prove this assertion?

Violence by far-right groups and individuals has emerged as one of the most dangerous terrorist threats faced by US law enforcement and triggered a wave of warnings and arrests of people associated with those extremist movements.

The most recent in-depth analysis of far-right terrorism comes from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).
The report says “the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994, and the total number of rightwing attacks and plots has grown significantly during the past six years”, with the far right launching two-thirds of attacks and plots in 2019, and 90% of those in 2020.

The report adds: “Far-right terrorism has significantly outpaced terrorism from other types of perpetrators.” The second most significant source of attacks and plots in the US has been “religious extremists”, almost all “Salafi jihadists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaida”.

The report shows the far left has been an increasingly negligible source of attacks since the mid 2000s. At that time the FBI defined arsons and other forms of property damage as domestic terrorism during a period some have called the “Green Scare”.

Violence by far right is among US’s most dangerous terrorist threats, study finds

Center for Strategic and International Studies analysis of domestic terrorist incidents found majority have come from far right

www.theguardian.com

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Do you see what the brainwashed, self-appointed "elite" are doing to Israel and the Jews on college campuses? Look for the same sort of hate and prejudice against Christians all across the country. It makes no sense... but then, when evil spirits inspire such hate, there is no sense to it.

 

[The Barbarian]

Do you see what the brainwashed, self-appointed "elite" are doing to Israel and the Jews on college campuses? Look for the same sort of hate and prejudice against Christians all across the country. It makes no sense... but then, when evil spirits inspire such hate, there is no sense to it.

Remember all those extremists at Charlottesville, who screamed at Jews "You will not replace us!"

Oh, wait...

 

[bèlla]

I agree with @public hermit and doubt bible purchases are the lone triggers if at all. There's others they're watching for that they'd tie with them when building a profile. They're looking for specific types of people with religious and political leanings. You're more like to garner attention by posting here or on social media than buying a book.

Written statements provide great insight into mindset and beliefs. The majority are more forthcoming under the guise of animosity. Most people don't censor themselves on the Internet. If you're saying things that rouse suspicion and warrant investigation that's your fault. It has nothing to do with the bible or Christianity.

~bella

 

[Vambram]

While it is true that right-wing terrorism is the major cause of terrorism deaths in America,

Violence by far-right groups and individuals has emerged as one of the most dangerous terrorist threats faced by US law enforcement and triggered a wave of warnings and arrests of people associated with those extremist movements.

The most recent in-depth analysis of far-right terrorism comes from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).
The report says “the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994, and the total number of rightwing attacks and plots has grown significantly during the past six years”, with the far right launching two-thirds of attacks and plots in 2019, and 90% of those in 2020.

The report adds: “Far-right terrorism has significantly outpaced terrorism from other types of perpetrators.” The second most significant source of attacks and plots in the US has been “religious extremists”, almost all “Salafi jihadists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaida”.

The report shows the far left has been an increasingly negligible source of attacks since the mid 2000s. At that time the FBI defined arsons and other forms of property damage as domestic terrorism during a period some have called the “Green Scare”.

Violence by far right is among US’s most dangerous terrorist threats, study finds

Center for Strategic and International Studies analysis of domestic terrorist incidents found majority have come from far right

www.theguardian.com

An opinion article citing statistics that are not proven to be accurate.

 

[The Barbarian]

An opinion article citing statistics that are not proven to be accurate.

A comprehensive survey of law enforcement reports of terrorist activity. "They are all lying!!!" is not an argument. Reality doesn't care what we think; try to find a way to come to terms with it.

 

[Vambram]

A comprehensive survey of law enforcement reports of terrorist activity. "They are all lying!!!" is not an argument. Reality doesn't care what we think; try to find a way to come to terms with it.

I don't trust a DoJ or an FBI that targets peaceful Christian protestors. Perhaps you should come to terms with the actual reality where Christians have been arrested, or escorted out of places in America simply because the Christians were peacefully using their 1st Amendment rights.

 

[The Barbarian]

I don't trust a DoJ or an FBI that targets peaceful Christian protestors.

I don't trust the tooth fairy or other imaginary things. So we're together on that, at least.

Perhaps you should come to terms with the actual reality where Christians have been arrested, or escorted out of places in America simply because the Christians were peacefully using their 1st Amendment rights.

Used to be more common. I can remember police turning dogs and batons on Christians who were just peacefully using their rights.

But then the Civil Rights Act made it riskier for them to do that, and it declined considerably.

 

[FreeinChrist]

ADVISOR HAT

This thread is closed for review​

 

[Aldebaran]

THREAD HAS BEEN CLEANED OF PERSONAL INSULTS
PLEASE ATTEMPT TO BE CIVIL
THANK YOU​

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I don't trust a DoJ or an FBI that targets peaceful Christian protestors. Perhaps you should come to terms with the actual reality where Christians have been arrested, or escorted out of places in America simply because the Christians were peacefully using their 1st Amendment rights.

And as that mindset continues and grows before our eyes, we can see that this hate is becoming normalized in our culture, laws, and courtrooms. Eventually, if it continues as it is now, Christianity will be hated and shunned by virtually all non-Christians. It is the way of the world. Don't be surprised that this is happening. We are already seeing this in our country and even these very threads. We have watched as the 1st Amendment has been twisted from "freedom of religion" to "freedom from religion." Kids in school are getting the state-enforced message that religion is inherently bad and should be shunned. "People who pray are dangerous." To speak in public about your faith is fanatical and "forcing" your religion on people. When a TV show wants an exceptionally evil person, what do they go for? Some extreme religious priest, nun, or evangelical preacher. You can see it coming... and the very people who claim to be "pluralistic" and "tolerant" are the ones driving this mindset. I have no doubt that the day is coming when believers will be asked to leave restaurants because they pray over their meals and "make people uncomfortable." It has not been that long ago that we were warning against the things we are now seeing. We were told we were nuts and that these things would never happen, "Not in America." Yet here we are. And the nay-sayers are poo-pooing our current warnings, saying the same things. And when those things begin to happen, those same nay-sayers will not only approve of the evil but encourage the wicked to do even worse. All this was prophesied in the scripture. It occurs in every nation that turns it back on God. Pray.

 

[bèlla]

The misleading part of this narrative is the lumping together of Christians with those whose behaviors warrants scrutiny or concern. What's equally disingenuous is the notion that shared belief equals agreement. There's a noticeable dearth of warnings from real life events. Nothing about the pandemic, migrants, interest rates or inflation. Real challenges impacting everyone. But persecution is coming.

This is what happens when fear mongering, doomsday novels and conversations are indulged. This is what happens when imagination runs amok and divorces itself from reality. You get boogeymen behind every door and the sky is falling constantly.

Isolated events don't mean Christians are under threat. Where's the censure? How are you in danger? You're posting on a public forum on the Internet that's crawled by bots all the time. Nothing you've said is secret. But you haven't been rounded up or silenced. You're still talking.

Go read The Voice of the Martyrs. That's persecution. They're fighting for their lives and paying the price. Armchair outrage isn't the same. Learn the difference.

~bella