grasping the after wind
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Semantics.
Words mean things.
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Semantics.
So you´d support the idea that the government paying for completely useless work is the way to help the economy?The economy is base on the exchange of labor through the medium of money. The product or service involved really isn't that important.
Words mean things.
Cool. I am all for public money spent on weapons to be changed into value-creating purposes.
So we have the determining factor: If the product helps creating value, it doesn´t matter who it is that is publicly supported. If it doesn´t, it´s wasted money no matter whom the government gives it to.If we could do it without the military, I'd be all for it.
Sure. And bread has value to me. If it doesn't mean that to you, then the word has different meanings for us. But don't try to tell me what it means to me. It's not as if I'm making up a usage that is unfamiliar.
So we have the determining factor: If the product helps creating value, it doesn´t matter who it is that is publicly supported. If it doesn´t, it´s wasted money no matter whom the government gives it to.
Anyway, I don´t see how the military is needed for it. It could be any research company. After all, it´s all tax money.
Most definitely.That sounds like a reasonable principle. It might be hard to implement though.
The reason the military isn´t driven by profit and is willing to take risks that others won´t is the very fact that it is 100% government/tax payer funded.Unless it's a philanthropic research organization of some sort, they will be motivated by profit, which drives them to eliminate risk and is thereby counterproductive to a lot of research. I've spent almost 30 years experiencing that.
The military has different objectives, and is therefore willing to take risks that others won't.
What value you place on a thing is completely subjective ...
The reason the military isn´t driven by profit and is willing to take risks that others won´t is the very fact that it is 100% government/tax payer funded.
So the government has to decide which group is more important to fund financially. Ok.That might be a factor, but it's not the only one. Another is that once you've been wounded, you're motivated to prevent future wounds. And there's the whole patriotic thing. Finally, the military tends to attract risk takers. Some people are adrenaline junkies, some are very cautious.
I never said it wasn't. As for the rest of your statement ... the fact that you don't understand a commonly used business term, and must therefore for some odd reason make it a philosophical issue is something I have absolutely no interest in. Pound away.
So you´d support the idea that the government paying for completely useless work is the way to help the economy?
Is all economic value rooted in labor?
That´s completely besides the point. The initial question was: Does goverment/tax-payer money given to organizations/businesses who pay people for hauling rocks around help the economy?The way to help the economy is to recover the capital now circulating in the global economy. Then people can do what they will with it, even haul rocks around.
Sure, there are other interconnected factors. Labor can become more efficient, and thereby we need less of it. As such, I can flip your rhetorical question around: If there is demand, and no labor to meet the demand ...
That´s completely besides the point. The initial question was: Does goverment/tax-payer money given to organizations/businesses who pay people for hauling rocks around help the economy?
Right after the recession, I created something I called New Economy from Nineteen New Educational Principles
You can find it if you search for Concepts for Economic Empowerment by Robert Pearson.
Here is number 14 which relates to the discussion:
14) We should be focusing on "creating value" not only "earning money." For example, imagine digging up some of one's lawn area and preparing the area for a nut and fruit tree orchards and other gardening area. This will create a substantial amount of "wealth" each year for one's household without having to bring in more money to buy things. There are many such improvements one can make and even invent for other people. There are low income but ready now electric car conversions that people have done for virtually every make of car.