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Which one of these had 7 heads? I'm pretty sure you haven't read what the Hebrew word for Leviathan is a cognate of! Look at it this way - just as a passionate and prophetic sermon today might analyse and dissect the cultural metaphors of our day - the bible often appropriates and re-writes other ancient pagan memes. It reinterprets and corrects them! See my Noah post above. Also, Yahweh is the "cloud rider" - not Baal or other Mesopotamian Gods that claim to be the "cloud rider". It's too big to go into now and I've already used my blogging time up on the post above - but the bible OFTEN quotes and refers to and reinterprets other ancient pagan mythologies. Deal with it! Here's the wiki on the other Leviathan cognates and memes.
Lotan
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The Destruction of Leviathan by Gustave Doré (1865)
Lotan (Ugaritic: -ltn, transliterated Lôtān,[1] Litan,[2] or Litānu,[3] meaning "coiled") is a servant of the sea god Yam defeated by the storm god Hadad-Baʿal in the Ugaritic Baal Cycle.[3] possibly with the help or by the hand of his sister ʿAnat.[4] Lotan seems to have been prefigured by the serpent Têmtum represented in Syrian seals of the 18th–16th century BC, [5] and finds a later reflex in the sea monster Leviathan, whose defeat at the hands of Yahweh is alluded to in the biblical Book of Job and in Isaiah 27:1.[5][3] Lambert (2003) went as far as the claim that Isaiah 27:1 is a direct quote lifted from the Ugaritic text, correctly rendering Ugaritic bṯn "snake" as Hebrew nḥš "snake".[6][7]
Lotan (ltn) is an adjectival formation meaning "coiled", here used as a proper name;[4] the same creature has a number of possible epitheta, including "the fugitive serpent" (bṯn brḥ) and maybe (with some uncertainty deriving from manuscript lacunae) "the wriggling serpent" (bṯn ʿqltn) and "the mighty one with seven heads" (šlyṭ d.šbʿt rašm).[5]
The myth of Hadad defeating Lotan, Yahweh defeating Leviathan, Marduk defeating Tiamat (etc.) in the mythologies of the Ancient Near East are classical examples of the Chaoskampf mytheme, also reflected in Zeus' slaying of Typhon in Greek mythology,[8] Thor's struggle against Jörmungandr in the Gylfaginning portion of the Prose Edda,[9] and the vedic battle between Indra and Vritra (from Sanskrit वृत्र, vṛtrá, meaning enveloper, cover and therefore obstacle) who is accused as a dragon of hoarding the waters and the rains, as a dasa of stealing cows, and as an anti-god of hiding the Sun,[10] concentrating on Vritra several demonization processes, the pattern of good versus evil, darkness versus light (hiding the Sun), and comparisons to forces of nature and monsters whose tentacles span the earth.
The Litani River that winds through the Beqaa Valley in Lebanon is named after Lotan as the river was believed to be the personification of the god.[11][12]
Lotan - Wikipedia
The only reason you claim Leviathon is mystical is due to your belief in evolution. Nothing in scripture teaches evolution, or even hints at it, which it would do if God had used it. You believe in evolution because science has said so, not from any scripture study.
Sin caused death.
Yet if evolution occurred for million of years death would also be occurring for million of years. Scripture says that death is Gods worn enemy, yet you think he happily allowed it to help shape his creation and then called it "very good".
What explanation do you use to wave away those two vital points? None I'm guessing, all the evolution believers I have encountered on here would rather ignore those two points. Or claim that death is only spiritual.
"In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return unto the ground, for out of it wast thou taken; for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.”
Pretty sure Adam could tell that wasn't just spiritual. He had already died spiritually before God spoke the curse.
Genesis 3:7
Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
Physical and spiritual death. Jesus died both a physical and spiritual death because sin caused both spiritual and physical death.
The Bible clearly teaches that creation took 6 days.
Exodus 20
11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
Job 40 "Created alongside of you" God said, because these huge animals were created alongside of mankind and Lot knew exactly what those animal were.
A very Thorough description of a dragon/dinosaur is given.
Dragon tales are known around the world because mankind from vastly different cultures and countries have all have known these great creatures. Its not simply a coincident that China has had dragon tales going back more than 5,000 years. That Babylonian, Greece, Egyptian and others all had dragon tales. Dinosaurs are simply dragons by another name, a name not invented until 1841.
"the bible often appropriates and re-writes other ancient pagan memes"
2 Timothy 3: 16 All Scripture is God-breathed
To claim parts are nothing but appropriation would make God's word nothing more than a collection of man made tales. It either stands complete with every word God breathed or none of it stands. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
If any of it is man made tales that then places it on the same level as any other book. If you can deny creation, then deny the flood, what about the crossing of the Red Sea? The donkey who spoke? Jesus turning water into wine? Why should the words of Jesus be any more believable than any other parts of scripture? Faith is not situational or conditional. It's not something we can claim simply because someone has not 'proved' it to be untrue. It's either all or nothing.
Revelation 3:16
So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.
3:19
Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent.
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