Bless those who bless Israel

Laodicean60 said:

The question is no matter what they do even evil? Yes, Jesus was a Jew but do you think he approves of the killing?

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we all sin friend even Christian’s. He will keep his covenants forever. He is faithful though we are not. He has loved them with an everlasting love. After the war in Eze 38&39 all Israel will be saved. And yes Jesus was a Jew. There is a time for war and killing. They are somewhat going by th OT. They are blind have compassion. They are a good people. How can you accept terroists? They are smart, they are blessed. They are back in the land as it is in prophecy. They are doing Gods will in that way.

Unqualified said:

All Jews are Gods people, ever since Abraham. Most of them have kept pure bloodlines since 70 ad.

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Do Christians owe kinship loyalty to these people who reject Christ?

How do we bless Israel if they're unbelievers? We bless everyone not just Israel but how can we promote people who reject Christ?

"For God does not change His mind about whom He chooses and blesses" Romans 11:29

Unqualified said:

Those who bless Israel will be blessed. That’s the way God wants it. So much of what we don’t understand is just because God wants it that way. It’s a test to love Him more than anything. Israel is Gods people. They are the good guys in this conflict. Why bless terrorists- foolishness.

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I am just entering this thread and perhaps someone else has pointed this out - there is a strong case that Israel's special status came to an end at the cross. I will not present the arguments in this post. The basic idea is that Israel's mission was to lead to the cross. And with Jesus's victory at the cross, Israel has fulfilled that mission and is no longer "special".

In any event, if Israel is no longer "set apart", then there is no particular argument for treating her any different than we would treat any other nation.

John G. said:

"For God does not change His mind about whom He chooses and blesses" Romans 11:29

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Fair point - I plan to get back to you on this.

John G. said:

"For God does not change His mind about whom He chooses and blesses" Romans 11:29

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Killing people over dirt doesn't seem to square with Jesus' or Paul's message in the New Testament.

FireDragon76 said:

Killing people over dirt doesn't seem to square with Jesus' or Paul's message in the New Testament.

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Yup, Blessing Israel means telling them the message of salvation. NOT by helping them sin and make mistakes by giving them weapons so they can kill more.

There is only 4 battalions of hamas left in Rafa. Israelis have the best record of civilian to soldier kill rate in the world. If you want a cause support your brothers in Sudan where they are starving. The world has gone mad supporting these terrorists and why I ask. It’s anti semitism. And why, because they are Gods people. No other reason. You are calling good evil and evil good like God said they would. Are you obeying God in this? No.

Unqualified said:

All Jews are Gods people, ever since Abraham.

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Not according to Jesus in gospels, though.

He clearly dismissed the Jewish idea that they are God's people (just because they are descendants of Abraham) even when they do evil.

Unqualified said:

Most of them have kept pure bloodlines since 70 ad.

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There is nothing like pure bloodlines. Its a racist superiority concept.

Laodicean60 said:

Do you have the latest stats on deaths in Gaza? How many are Christians?

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Very few civilians have lost their lives. Don’t listen to hamas statistics. Death is not the end for Christian’s. What else but heaven do they have. If you want to bleed for every life go to Sudan. There has never nor will ever be peace until Jesus comes and sets up the new Jerusalem. Let a few terrorists go and help where there is hope for salvation, like Sudan and people who don’t hate Jesus.

Laodicean60 said:

So you haven't any sources or tried to look.

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Amir Tsarfati@ behold Israel on telegram

Laodicean60 said:

So you give opinions not facts. What do you want me to read, post it.

I ask again, please.

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it’s all facts. read it all

Unqualified said:

Death is not the end for Christian’s.

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This is sub-Christian logic. The people of Gaza are not asking to be martyrs for Israel.

Unqualified said:

What else but heaven do they have.

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Their earthly lives are their own, it's part of the dignity of being created in the image of God. And it's not right that you negate the value of their lives. Every life, even Christian ones, has inherent worth and dignity.

Unqualified said:

If you want to bleed for every life go to Sudan.

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Bleeding for every life, isn't that what Jesus did?