Taking Questions on Embedded Age Creation

[AV1611VET]

A small concession to deny you the opportunity to reply that embedded age is real.

So how do we distinguish passed age from embedded age?

I feel like I'm trying to teach algebra to a preschooler.

 

[AV1611VET]

You're just as liable to found on the wrong end of the scale as I am.

MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN then, I guess.

Either way, I am done now. I've got nothing else to ask or add so I shall bid you all a good night.

Sleep well.

 

[Ophiolite]

If that's all you're getting from my replies, perhaps you're wasting your time here?

I think we can all be very clear that the person wasting our time is you. Deflection is a polite way of describing your answers. Indeed, calling them answers is being overly kind.

 

[dlamberth]

It speaks volumes when one realizes that the idea of Embedded Age is held by a very tiny part of the population within the Christian community. I suspect there maybe others, but for the most part as far as I know AV stands mostly alone.

What I reject is the claiming of reading comprehension issues or blaming others somehow and throwing it back at us like it's our fault (gaslighting?) when clearly his Embedded Age ideas are not accepted even by his own Christian community.

 

[Kylie]

God inserted it.

Look at it this way:

"Age" is a noun.

Nouns can be inserted into things.

God inserted age into His creation, giving it maturity without a history.

Age is the result of existence.

If there's no existence, there's no age.

 

[Kylie]

Science can take a hike.

Funny that you say that, considering that the only reason you need to resort to this embedded age bunk in the first place is to reconcile the claims of the Bible with the evidence that science has provided.

If you really thought that science could take a hike, you wouldn't need this embedded age nonsense in the first place.

 

[Kylie]

In 1982, when my pastor mentioned that God created the universe with age intact.

After coming here in 2006 and mentioning it, through the process of "iron sharpening iron," I came up with the term "Embedded Age," to distinguish it from "Apparent Age."

Then someone (I think it was either you or Kylie), asked for a clear-cut irrefutable definition of "Embedded Age," and I felt stumped, because I want to get them a definition that they could easily understand.

And after praying about it, I believe God gave me that definition:

"Maturity without history."

Of course, maturity REQUIRES history...

 

[driewerf]

If that's all you're getting from my replies, perhaps you're wasting your time here?

If you think you have given an acceptable reason to believe in Embedded Age, then QV us to that post. You're very good at QV'ing.

 

[AV1611VET]

Age is the result of existence.

If there's no existence, there's no age.

No argument there.

Age was inserted into everything from Adam to the farthest star.

 

[AV1611VET]

Funny that you say that, considering that the only reason you need to resort to this embedded age bunk in the first place is to reconcile the claims of the Bible with the evidence that science has provided.

If you really thought that science could take a hike, you wouldn't need this embedded age nonsense in the first place.

Right -- until someone would ask how Adam was able to get married and have children, if he was just created that day.

Then that "nonsense" you called it would suddenly become a salient point against Genesis 1, wouldn't it?

After all, without that "science can take a hike / embedded age nonsense," we'd be vulnerable to everything from science's y-Adam to we being star dust.

 

[AV1611VET]

Of course, maturity REQUIRES history...

It does today.

But not during the Creation Week, when things came into existence suddenly and fully mature.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you think you have given an acceptable reason to believe in Embedded Age, then QV us to that post. You're very good at QV'ing.

Waste your own time.

Don't waste mine.

 

[driewerf]

Waste your own time.

Don't waste mine.

I fail to se how asking for a good reason to consider you pet theory is a waste of your time. Especially in a thread dedicated to that theory.
But each to its own, I suppose.

 

[AV1611VET]

I fail to se how asking for a good reason to consider you pet theory is a waste of your time. Especially in a thread dedicated to that theory.
But each to its own, I suppose.

1. You said I was pretending.

2. You changed your query from "real age" to "passed age."

3. You said you don't even believe in God in the first place.

And you want me to explain my "pretend pet theory" to your satisfaction?

You want me to believe that you are really seriously wanting to understand my point of view, and having a hard time doing so because I'm not explaining myself properly?

Well ... fair enough.

Waste your own time, not mine.

 

[Aaron112]

Reminds me of SETI, that took our money after convincing the government they'd probably find life "out there."

fwiw, I don't know what SETI is.

Ya -- they found that Wow! signal probably just about the time that interest in SETI was dwindling.

 

[AV1611VET]

fwiw, I don't know what SETI is.

Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence

 

[Aaron112]

Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence

thx.
btw, is there anyone searching for Terrestrial Intelligence ? On a forum, in the usa, in britain, in canada, in mexico, in europe , in russia, in australia , in japan (more hope than the others,eh!), in korea, in sweden, in switzerland, in antarctic or antarctica , in estonia, in central america , in dubai, in central intelligence agency (worked for them), in government , in colleges or universities ?

 

[Aaron112]

Of course, maturity REQUIRES history...

But history does NOT require maturity.
Gubberments and farmassies rewrote history (oh, wait, long before this religion did too),
so they could 'claim' <falsely> they had support or evidence they were right and could continue to oppress the poor even though mentas non competence .

 

[Aaron112]

Right -- until someone would ask how Adam was able to get married and have children, if he was just created that day.

YES?! No gubberment licens or paperwork or taxes or gossip (yet?) or societal sins (?) or peer pressure or ever, no, not ever any divorce (yet) (CREATOR OF UNIVERSE HATES DIVORCE) , no one making up excuses for wife or for husband to think sin is okay (oh, wait again.... I thought I saw a puddy cat!? someone did make an excuse for them to sin) ....

 

[driewerf]

1. You said I was pretending.

In the meaning of claiming or making statements, allegations, yes indeed.

2. You changed your query from "real age" to "passed age."

Yes indeed. It is well in the spirit of this discussion since you claim that age can be acquired embedded sans the passage of time

3. You said you don't even believe in God in the first place.

Is that new to you? have allows identified as an atheist.

And you want me to explain my "pretend pet theory" to your satisfaction?

I have never used the phrase "pretend pet theory".

You want me to believe that you are really seriously wanting to understand my point of view, and having a hard time doing so because I'm not explaining myself properly?

I want to see how you answer questions. How you explain real world features. The result so far is quite disappointing.

Well ... fair enough.

Waste your own time, not mine.

1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and be ready always to give an answer to every man who asketh you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear.