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So why then should women want positions of leadership if they can be greater as servants?
You say that as if "leader" and "servant" are not equivalent. That's a fundamental disagreement between us (as our many previous discussions have established).
Wouldn't Mary in a position of elder make her inferior to women who aren't in that position?
I don't think so but welcome your clarification. Are elders superior to the rest of the body of Christ? To me, that starts off on the wrong foot from the get go.
Elders are elders if and only if they are servants. I take a position of strong equivalence versus your position of superiority and inferiority. In Christ, there is no slave or free, superior or inferior, etc. Yes?
But you get what i mean when i say control. So lets not play games. I mean a person in direct leadership position with the authority to make decisions within a community. What Church was she in charge of according to your understanding?
There are churches today where women are in direct leadership positions. That might not be the case for your particular church, but they exist as ordained by those who stand in the same relation to the same Lord and Spirit as yours. No?
Am I to believe that historic Christendom has been in error since apostolic times based on the last sentence?
You can believe what you want, patriarchy is not of Christ. It's more akin to Roman paterfamilias than to followers of Jesus Christ.
Why appeal to the councils then which excluded women priest and bishops from attending and participating in such discussions?
Also what churches are these women you know part of?
Methodist, Presbyterian, and Episcopalian. I know y'all appeal to councils. Councils are good and needed but not necessarily infallible.
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