Why Mr Biden and Mr Trump deserve honor and respect

[HopeSings]

These men are God's government authorities. As such I must honor them and obey them according to Romans chapter 13 and Titus chapter 3. I don't judge them as government leaders but I let God judge them.

I judge them as Christians however and i do not follow any politician or teacher. I follow Christ and his apostles. I follow scripture and the holy spirit.

 

[Fantine]

Mr. Trump is a private citizen, and the courts (who should also be honored) have found overwhelmingly substantial evidence of 91 crimes.

In two states and two federal courts, grand juries of Mr. Trump's peers have been convened and have indicted him--based on presented evidence.

Civil courts in NY have assessed his culpability for sexual abuse of E. Jean Carroll and for tax fraud---with cumulative fines of approximately $525 million. Prior to his presidency, Mr. Trump was found to have operated a false university and assessed a $25 million fine to partially reimburse the duped students.

Mr. Trump, whom you said was previously "God's government authority," was put in that position by fallible humans with poor judgment, and the courts, also an authority, is trying to right the wrongs he has done, including trying to overthrow the very government who should be honored.

 

[HopeSings]

Mr. Trump is a private citizen, and the courts (who should also be honored) have found overwhelmingly substantial evidence of 91 crimes.

In two states and two federal courts, grand juries of Mr. Trump's peers have been convened and have indicted him--based on presented evidence.

Civil courts in NY have assessed his culpability for sexual abuse of E. Jean Carroll and for tax fraud---with cumulative fines of approximately $525 million. Prior to his presidency, Mr. Trump was found to have operated a false university and assessed a $25 million fine to partially reimburse the duped students.

Mr. Trump, whom you said was previously "God's government authority," was put in that position by fallible humans with poor judgment, and the courts, also an authority, is trying to right the wrongs he has done, including trying to overthrow the very government who should be honored.

It's their business and God's business but not ours. We stay at home and mind our own affairs. We submit to Ceasar in other words.

 

[Fantine]

As I said, Mr. Trump is a private citizen.
We owe him only what he has earned at this point--nothing.

 

[AlexB23]

Mr. Trump is a private citizen, and the courts (who should also be honored) have found overwhelmingly substantial evidence of 91 crimes.

In two states and two federal courts, grand juries of Mr. Trump's peers have been convened and have indicted him--based on presented evidence.

Civil courts in NY have assessed his culpability for sexual abuse of E. Jean Carroll and for tax fraud---with cumulative fines of approximately $525 million. Prior to his presidency, Mr. Trump was found to have operated a false university and assessed a $25 million fine to partially reimburse the duped students.

Mr. Trump, whom you said was previously "God's government authority," was put in that position by fallible humans with poor judgment, and the courts, also an authority, is trying to right the wrongs he has done, including trying to overthrow the very government who should be honored.

I agree wholeheartedly, plus this verse from Psalms is important to follow. Most politicians resemble the wicked man described in Psalm 10:2-7, some more so compared to others, such as the guy who has 91 crimes across 4 indictments.

Date	April 18, 2024
Verse	Psalm 10:2-7 (NIV): In his arrogance the wicked man hunts down the weak, who are caught in the schemes he devises. He boasts about the cravings of his heart; he blesses the greedy and reviles the Lord. In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God. His ways are always prosperous; your laws are rejected by him; he sneers at all his enemies. He says to himself, “Nothing will ever shake me.” He swears, “No one will ever do me harm.” His mouth is full of lies and threats; trouble and evil are under his tongue.
Explanation	This passage describes the arrogant and wicked behavior of an individual who disregards God and preys upon the weak. The wicked man hunts down and schemes against the vulnerable, boasts about his desires, blesses the greedy, and rejects God's laws. In modern culture, we can find examples of individuals who embody the wicked man's behavior described in Psalm 10:2-7. These figures might be found in business, politics, or entertainment industries where power and wealth are highly valued. They often use their influence to manipulate, deceive, and harm others for their own gain.

 

[HopeSings]

As I said, Mr. Trump is a private citizen.
We owe him only what he has earned at this point--nothing.

Trump as president is owed my obedience and respect. I owe Trump as a citizen my love by minding my own business and not gossiping about him. And Trump as a brother is a different matter altogether

 

[HopeSings]

I agree wholeheartedly, plus this verse from Psalms is important to follow. Most politicians resemble the wicked man described in Psalm 10:2-7, some more so compared to others, such as the guy who has 91 crimes across 4 indictments.

Date	April 18, 2024
Verse	Psalm 10:2-7 (NIV): In his arrogance the wicked man hunts down the weak, who are caught in the schemes he devises. He boasts about the cravings of his heart; he blesses the greedy and reviles the Lord. In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God. His ways are always prosperous; your laws are rejected by him; he sneers at all his enemies. He says to himself, “Nothing will ever shake me.” He swears, “No one will ever do me harm.” His mouth is full of lies and threats; trouble and evil are under his tongue.
Explanation	This passage describes the arrogant and wicked behavior of an individual who disregards God and preys upon the weak. The wicked man hunts down and schemes against the vulnerable, boasts about his desires, blesses the greedy, and rejects God's laws. In modern culture, we can find examples of individuals who embody the wicked man's behavior described in Psalm 10:2-7. These figures might be found in business, politics, or entertainment industries where power and wealth are highly valued. They often use their influence to manipulate, deceive, and harm others for their own gain.

Notice in the Psalms that God's judges them. David called on God to punish the nations.

 

[AlexB23]

Notice in the Psalms that God's judges them. David called on God to punish the nations.

Well, remember these 5 things about Psalm 10:2-7. If we want to stand up for the weak, we must stand up against the wicked, though in a fair and just way, such as in a court system.

Applications for Life

1. To respond to Psalm 10:2-7 in our daily lives, we should make attempts to be aware of the existence of wicked individuals and their tactics. Recognize that these people exist and that they may try to take advantage of us or others. 2. Maintaining a strong connection with God through faith is crucial in navigating life's challenges. We should stay rooted in our commitment to Him and seek His guidance and wisdom. 3. Practicing compassion towards those who are vulnerable or marginalized is essential. Standing up for the weak and advocating for their rights ensures they are not exploited or taken advantage of by wicked individuals. 4. Living according to God's commandments, especially loving our neighbors as ourselves, is crucial in creating a positive impact on our communities. We should extend kindness and respect to all people, regardless of their background or circumstances. 5. Praying for wicked individuals and their eventual repentance is a vital response to this verse. We should not judge them but instead extend forgiveness and grace as God has extended to us through His Son, Jesus Christ. Additionally, seeking wisdom and guidance from trusted sources like pastors, spiritual leaders, or mentors can provide valuable perspective and insight when dealing with difficult situations involving wicked individuals.

 

[HopeSings]

Well, remember these 5 things about Psalm 10:2-7. If we want to stand up for the weak, we must stand up against the wicked, though in a fair and just way, such as in a court system.

Applications for Life

1. To respond to Psalm 10:2-7 in our daily lives, we should make attempts to be aware of the existence of wicked individuals and their tactics. Recognize that these people exist and that they may try to take advantage of us or others. 2. Maintaining a strong connection with God through faith is crucial in navigating life's challenges. We should stay rooted in our commitment to Him and seek His guidance and wisdom. 3. Practicing compassion towards those who are vulnerable or marginalized is essential. Standing up for the weak and advocating for their rights ensures they are not exploited or taken advantage of by wicked individuals. 4. Living according to God's commandments, especially loving our neighbors as ourselves, is crucial in creating a positive impact on our communities. We should extend kindness and respect to all people, regardless of their background or circumstances. 5. Praying for wicked individuals and their eventual repentance is a vital response to this verse. We should not judge them but instead extend forgiveness and grace as God has extended to us through His Son, Jesus Christ. Additionally, seeking wisdom and guidance from trusted sources like pastors, spiritual leaders, or mentors can provide valuable perspective and insight when dealing with difficult situations involving wicked individuals.

Political factions tear each other down. That's not helping anyone. Surely not the weak

 

[AlexB23]

Political factions tear each other down. That's not helping anyone. Surely not the weak

That is true. So, I agree both with you on some parts, and agree with @Fantine

 

[HopeSings]

Well, remember these 5 things about Psalm 10:2-7. If we want to stand up for the weak, we must stand up against the wicked, though in a fair and just way, such as in a court system.

Applications for Life

1. To respond to Psalm 10:2-7 in our daily lives, we should make attempts to be aware of the existence of wicked individuals and their tactics. Recognize that these people exist and that they may try to take advantage of us or others. 2. Maintaining a strong connection with God through faith is crucial in navigating life's challenges. We should stay rooted in our commitment to Him and seek His guidance and wisdom. 3. Practicing compassion towards those who are vulnerable or marginalized is essential. Standing up for the weak and advocating for their rights ensures they are not exploited or taken advantage of by wicked individuals. 4. Living according to God's commandments, especially loving our neighbors as ourselves, is crucial in creating a positive impact on our communities. We should extend kindness and respect to all people, regardless of their background or circumstances. 5. Praying for wicked individuals and their eventual repentance is a vital response to this verse. We should not judge them but instead extend forgiveness and grace as God has extended to us through His Son, Jesus Christ. Additionally, seeking wisdom and guidance from trusted sources like pastors, spiritual leaders, or mentors can provide valuable perspective and insight when dealing with difficult situations involving wicked individuals.

Tell people not to fear the economy, wars or who does anything but to instead trust in God. That helps the weak. Politicians do the opposite

 

[AlexB23]

Tell people not to fear the economy, wars or who does anything but to instead trust in God. That helps the weak. Politicians do the opposite

Trump preyed on the weak by abusing his power (and women) as well as denying global warming, while the far-left prey on the weak as well, spreading lies about "multiple genders", when in reality there are only XX and XY.

 

[HopeSings]

Trump preyed on the weak by abusing his power (and women) as well as denying global warming, while the far-left prey on the weak as well, spreading lies about "multiple genders", when in reality there are only XX and XY.

It's not my business. It's just gossip. The law will deal with people.

 

[AlexB23]

It's not my business. It's just gossip. The law will deal with people.

Yep, and the law will prosecute Trump, assuming he is convicted for his criminal actions.

 

[HopeSings]

Yep, and the law will prosecute Trump, assuming he is convicted for his criminal actions.

It's gossip

 

[AlexB23]

It's gossip

Well, we will find out in the next few months.

 

[HopeSings]

Well, we will find out in the next few months.

It's gossip whether it's true or false.

 

[AlexB23]

It's gossip whether it's true or false.

I can not make any comments on that, but what are your thoughts on Biden? Is he better, or worse for our country?

 

[HopeSings]

I can not make any comments on that, but what are your thoughts on Biden? Is he better, or worse for our country?

I seek the kingdom of God. Jesus is in control. I'm unconcerned with nations. God judges them.

 

[AlexB23]

I seek the kingdom of God. Jesus is in control. I'm unconcerned with nations. God judges them.

Amen to that, but who do you think is more in the wrong, and if you had to pick between the two, which one would you go for? I don't like either of them, but would have to go for the guy who did not commit 91 crimes.