λέγει αὐτῇ Ἰησοῦς Μή μου ἅπτου Do not touch (cling to) me

[Akita Suggagaki]

haptomai: touch.
Original Word: ἅπτομαι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: haptomai
Phonetic Spelling: (hap'-tom-ahee)
Definition: touch
Usage: prop: I fasten to; I lay hold of, touch, know carnally.

680 háptomai (from 681 /háptō, "to modify or change by touching") – properly, "touching that influences" (modifies); touching someone (something) in a way that alters (changes, modifies) them, i.e. "impact-touching."

New International Version
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

English Standard Version
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

I have always found this the most interesting detail of the resurrection. Why would touching or clinging to Jesus be a problem? Perhaps clinging to his physical form? Open our hearts to his nonphysical being?

 

[Mark Quayle]

haptomai: touch.
Original Word: ἅπτομαι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: haptomai
Phonetic Spelling: (hap'-tom-ahee)
Definition: touch
Usage: prop: I fasten to; I lay hold of, touch, know carnally.

680 háptomai (from 681 /háptō, "to modify or change by touching") – properly, "touching that influences" (modifies); touching someone (something) in a way that alters (changes, modifies) them, i.e. "impact-touching."

New International Version
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

English Standard Version
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

I have always found this the most interesting detail of the resurrection. Why would touching or clinging to Jesus be a problem? Perhaps clinging to his physical form? Open our hearts to his nonphysical being?

Yep! Sort of figures in with whether he had already ascended or not on the other occasions, such as when he ate with them, and so on. I don't always hold to sequence in the story line.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

such as when he ate with them

And even told Thomas to touch him....before he ascended.

 

[Clare73]

haptomai: touch.
Original Word: ἅπτομαι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: haptomai
Phonetic Spelling: (hap'-tom-ahee)
Definition: touch
Usage: prop: I fasten to; I lay hold of, touch, know carnally.

680 háptomai (from 681 /háptō, "to modify or change by touching") – properly, "touching that influences" (modifies); touching someone (something) in a way that alters (changes, modifies) them, i.e. "impact-touching."

New International Version
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

English Standard Version
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

I have always found this the most interesting detail of the resurrection. Why would touching or clinging to Jesus be a problem? Perhaps clinging to his physical form? Open our hearts to his nonphysical being?

They must relate to him in a new way now, instead of physically.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

They must relate to him in a new way now, instead of physically.

But he told Thomas to touch him.

 

[Mark Quayle]

They must relate to him in a new way now, instead of physically.

Agreed, but, my goodness the implications! Like him, but we literally are members of his body? These very bodies will be raised incorruptible, certainly physical in some sense —I can't help grinning at all the thoughts crowding in here! It will be so good!

 

[Mark Quayle]

But he told Thomas to touch him.

It may have been rhetorical, maybe even a way to show Thomas that it was indeed him, who knew what Thomas had said. It doesn't say Thomas did touch him. Personally, I don't think Thomas needed to after that.

 

[Clare73]

But he told Thomas to touch him.

At the tomb he said, "Do not cling to me."
Two different situations with two different lessons to be conveyed.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

In John 20:17
"Don't" Because she is female?

haptomai: touch.
Original Word: ἅπτομαι




In Luke 24:39
"Do"

psélaphaó: to feel or grope about
Original Word: ψηλαφάω

 

[Clare73]

In John 20:17
"Don't" Because she is female?

See post #4.

haptomai: touch.
Original Word: ἅπτομαι

Meaning: to fasten to, to cling to, to lay hold of.

 

[Jan001]

haptomai: touch.
Original Word: ἅπτομαι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: haptomai
Phonetic Spelling: (hap'-tom-ahee)
Definition: touch
Usage: prop: I fasten to; I lay hold of, touch, know carnally.

680 háptomai (from 681 /háptō, "to modify or change by touching") – properly, "touching that influences" (modifies); touching someone (something) in a way that alters (changes, modifies) them, i.e. "impact-touching."

New International Version
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

English Standard Version
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

I have always found this the most interesting detail of the resurrection. Why would touching or clinging to Jesus be a problem? Perhaps clinging to his physical form? Open our hearts to his nonphysical being?

I think perhaps Jesus means that she will see him again soon, so she should not detain him presently.

 

[ViaCrucis]

haptomai: touch.
Original Word: ἅπτομαι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: haptomai
Phonetic Spelling: (hap'-tom-ahee)
Definition: touch
Usage: prop: I fasten to; I lay hold of, touch, know carnally.

680 háptomai (from 681 /háptō, "to modify or change by touching") – properly, "touching that influences" (modifies); touching someone (something) in a way that alters (changes, modifies) them, i.e. "impact-touching."

New International Version
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

English Standard Version
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

I have always found this the most interesting detail of the resurrection. Why would touching or clinging to Jesus be a problem? Perhaps clinging to his physical form? Open our hearts to his nonphysical being?

The point, and as I have always argued it, is that Jesus is saying "Don't cling to Me" in that He will not remain with them forever, He will be leaving them as He said He would, by ascending and returning to the Father in heaven. He said many times that He would be with them only for a short time, but that He would not leave them alone and as orphans--He would send the Holy Spirit, and would remain present with them. But being with them, as they had known and experienced Him, would not last. He had more to say after He rose, He stayed with them for another forty days, but then He ascended.

He remains physical, after all we receive His physical flesh and blood every time we partake of His Supper. But the kind of face-to-face experience of the Lord which they knew as they had spent time with Him, both before and after His resurrection would end after He ascended.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Gregory Thompson]

haptomai: touch.
Original Word: ἅπτομαι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: haptomai
Phonetic Spelling: (hap'-tom-ahee)
Definition: touch
Usage: prop: I fasten to; I lay hold of, touch, know carnally.

680 háptomai (from 681 /háptō, "to modify or change by touching") – properly, "touching that influences" (modifies); touching someone (something) in a way that alters (changes, modifies) them, i.e. "impact-touching."

New International Version
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

English Standard Version
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

I have always found this the most interesting detail of the resurrection. Why would touching or clinging to Jesus be a problem? Perhaps clinging to his physical form? Open our hearts to his nonphysical being?

She touched his virtue as if it were a physical object and it drained out of him completely.

Now churches are full of such people, many should avoid like leper colonies.

 

[Mark Quayle]

She touched his virtue as if it were a physical object and it drained out of him completely.

Now churches are full of such people, many should avoid like leper colonies.

Are you saying he had no virtue left?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Are you saying he had no virtue left?

He had to re-accumulate.

 

[Mark Quayle]

He had to re-accumulate.

I hope you will admit that is speculation.

 

[ViaCrucis]

She touched his virtue as if it were a physical object and it drained out of him completely.

Now churches are full of such people, many should avoid like leper colonies.

I think you might need to elaborate. How does virtue get touched and how does it drain?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

I hope you will admit that is speculation.

I'm not even sure what it means.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I think you might need to elaborate. How does virtue get touched and how does it drain?

-CryptoLutheran

The apostles didn't get it either since he was in a crowd. If virtue was a tangible object, then the method of "touching" is metaphysical.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I hope you will admit that is speculation.

Doubtful.