Mom's for Liberty sex scandal

[Bradskii]

That's why you leave inappropriate content around your house and just tell your kids not to look at it.

If you think it's inappropriate for your children then don't have it in the house. If it's in a library, tell them they are not allowed to see it. Please don't dictate what other parents can determine is acceptable or not for their children simply because you don't trust yours.

 

[rjs330]

If you think it's inappropriate for your children then don't have it in the house. If it's in a library, tell them they are not allowed to see it. Please don't dictate what other parents can determine is acceptable or not for their children simply because you don't trust yours.

I believe you have already said you don't leave stuff around the house and just tell your kids not to touch it. We all know your schtick on this isn't accurate to how you actually operate. I don't buy for a second that you just tell your kids not to do something and they just won't, ever.

We are protecting all kids from explicitly sexual material is available to them in public. Because we are not dumb enough to believe that kids do whatever their parents say.

By the way, no one is telling you you can't show whatever you want to your kids. No is determining anything for you. But em whatever you want. Tell em whatever you want, show em whatever you want.

But public places are not the same thing. That's why kids can't go into stores and just rifle through the latest sex porn mag.

 

[Bradskii]

I believe you have already said you don't leave stuff around the house and just tell your kids not to touch it. We all know your schtick on this isn't accurate to how you actually operate. I don't buy for a second that you just tell your kids not to do something and they just won't, ever.

I always trusted them. I didn't want them watching porn or taking drugs so there was no porn in the house (this is before the internet) and no drugs. There was always booze available and they were allowed some at an age that I thought was applicable. But would they have access to all this elsewhere? Well of course they would. You can't wrap them up in cotton wool. They are out there most of the time making decisions on their own. That's what we want them to do. So you explain why you don't want them to do it.

But we are talking school libraries here. Not smoking a joint in a mate's bedroom or downloading porn on a friend's computer. We're talking about a student accessible area under adult supervision. So just tell the kid, please don't read this particular book. If he or she does the right thing then he or she will ask you why and you can explain that it has a drawing of oral sex (or whatever). You can then explain what that is and why he or she shouldn't be reading that type of book. Well done you. You've laid down the law on what your kid can and cannot do and you've explained something about sex to them (in an age suitable manner).

What really is the big deal about that?

And did my kids see porn? I'll bet they did. I'll ask when that was when I see them on the weekend. Did they go out and drink too much? You bet. But I never saw either of them drunk until they were early twenties. Did they take any drugs? Of course they did. But nothing serious as I'd explained the dangers and maybe that made the difference. Did they have sex? Good grief, yes.

Am I suggesting that all parents bring up their kids exactly as I did? No, of course not. But it'll be a cold day in hell when someone else is going to tell me what material my kids can and can't see. Well, they've got kids of their own now, but the opinion still stands.

 

[rjs330]

I always trusted them. I didn't want them watching inappropriate content or taking drugs so there was no inappropriate content in the house (this is before the internet) and no drugs. There was always booze available and they were allowed some at an age that I thought was applicable. But would they have access to all this elsewhere? Well of course they would. You can't wrap them up in cotton wool. They are out there most of the time making decisions on their own. That's what we want them to do. So you explain why you don't want them to do it.

But we are talking school libraries here. Not smoking a joint in a mate's bedroom or downloading inappropriate content on a friend's computer. We're talking about a student accessible area under adult supervision. So just tell the kid, please don't read this particular book. If he or she does the right thing then he or she will ask you why and you can explain that it has a drawing of oral sex (or whatever). You can then explain what that is and why he or she shouldn't be reading that type of book. Well done you. You've laid down the law on what your kid can and cannot do and you've explained something about sex to them (in an age suitable manner).

What really is the big deal about that?

And did my kids see inappropriate content? I'll bet they did. I'll ask when that was when I see them on the weekend. Did they go out and drink too much? You bet. But I never saw either of them drunk until they were early twenties. Did they take any drugs? Of course they did. But nothing serious as I'd explained the dangers and maybe that made the difference. Did they have sex? Good grief, yes.

Am I suggesting that all parents bring up their kids exactly as I did? No, of course not. But it'll be a cold day in hell when someone else is going to tell me what material my kids can and can't see. Well, they've got kids of their own now, but the opinion still stands.

I've raised four children. So I know all about it. Everyone of them different than the others.

I trusted my kids too. Some more than others because of who they were and the behaviors they exhibited.

And you showed common sense in the way you did some things.

By your standards you'd be okay with hardcore porn in the school libraries then? It's all good to you?

And just because kids might get it else where doesn't mean we should make it available elsewhere, especially in schools. That why we don't have alcohol vending machines in the schools either, or in public spaces. Cause we are all wise enough to know that kids don't always listen to their parents and will do things they aren't supposed to do.

 

[JustOneWay]

We are wanting to stop the left for pushing their views onto the kids.

So you can push yours onto the kids.

Yes, the children are now political weapons to be fought over.

They must not read that book, they must read this book! Do as I say, not as I do!

 

[Larniavc]

You and the others tried to make it about parents.

No I didn’t. I was clearly drawing the similarity between Hitler targeting the youth and youth pastors targeting the youth.

 

[Larniavc]

And your story about the prayer is schools has nothing to do about indoctrinating kids to believe in Jesus as their Lord and Savior and to call him Lord.

Pull the other one, it’s got bells on.

 

[Merrill]

So you can push yours onto the kids.

Yes, the children are now political weapons to be fought over.

They must not read that book, they must read this book! Do as I say, not as I do!

Look at this article:

A school district was given LGBTQ-affirming kids’ books. Then parents objected

Solana Beach School District controversy raises the question: What should schools do when people object to library books?

www.sandiegouniontribune.com

when activist groups "give" books to school libraries and demand they be put on the shelves, the goals are clear.

I am not aware of right-wing, or religious groups, dumping off thousands of books in front of school district offices and demanding they be put in the libraries.

and the books the far-left is putting into schools deliberately create gender-confusion and sexual anxiety in kids. Books that put bad ideas into little heads, and which lead young girls to get their breasts removed, or young boys to get chemically castrated are evil trash.

 

[JustOneWay]

Police have recovered second Ziegler sex video, sources say​

Police have recovered second Ziegler sex video, sources say - Florida Trident

A sex video involving Sarasota School Board member Bridget Ziegler and an unidentified woman has been recovered by police as part of the ongoing criminal

flcga.org

A second video has been recovered by police showing Bridget Ziegler, a cofounder of the conservative Moms for Liberty, engaging in sexual relations with a woman, sources said. It is not known if the woman in the video is the same woman who has alleged she was sexually assaulted by Christian Ziegler. Neither Christian nor Bridget Ziegler have responded to requests for comment from the Trident.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Look at this article:

A school district was given LGBTQ-affirming kids’ books. Then parents objected

Solana Beach School District controversy raises the question: What should schools do when people object to library books?

www.sandiegouniontribune.com

when activist groups "give" books to school libraries and demand they be put on the shelves, the goals are clear.

I am not aware of right-wing, or religious groups, dumping off thousands of books in front of school district offices and demanding they be put in the libraries.

and the books the far-left is putting into schools deliberately create gender-confusion and sexual anxiety in kids. Books that put bad ideas into little heads, and which lead young girls to get their breasts removed, or young boys to get chemically castrated are evil trash.

Religious groups tend to cut out the middle man of school libraries and seek to hand their books directly to children Georgia parent upset at school allowing Bibles to be offered to students

 

[Merrill]

Religious groups tend to cut out the middle man of school libraries and hand their books directly to children Georgia parent upset at school allowing Bibles to be offered to students

so you are now saying parents and groups shouldn't be giving books to school libraries to carry on the shelves?

or is it OK as long as you approve of the books?

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

so you are now saying parents and groups shouldn't be giving books to school libraries to carry on the shelves?

or is it OK as long as you approve of the books?

Do you have problem with a group handing children copies of the Bible at school?

 

[Merrill]

Do you have problem with a group handing children copies of the Bible at school?

The Bible should be in public school libraries, as well as the Quran, the Torah, and other important religious texts.

They all have literary, historical, and sociological value. One does not need to believe in the message in order to study those texts.

A pamphlet or book for kids that tells them they are the opposite sex, is something entirely different. Likewise, an inflammatory book like "The Turner Diaries" or the "Anarchist Cookbook" would not have literary or historical merit, and may convey dangerous messages.

schools have standards as to what should be included in the library. Parents, taxpayers, citizens, and school boards have the final word on this.

some activist group who promotes sex with kids doesn't

 

[seeking.IAM]

Do you have problem with a group handing children copies of the Bible at school?

When I was a child the Gideon's handed out small New Testaments to all 4th graders, at least I think that was the grade. I think I still have mine around here some place. As I have grown up and become better read in the Bible, I wonder if they restricted the school-age giveaway to the New Testament to screen out all the sexual content of the Old Testament. There is some pretty racy stuff in the OT that Mom's For Liberty would screen out if it was in a secular novel.

 

[rjs330]

So you can push yours onto the kids.

Yes, the children are now political weapons to be fought over.

They must not read that book, they must read this book! Do as I say, not as I do!

This is a typical gaslight response. Accuse the other party of something they never claimed they wanted.

 

[rjs330]

No I didn’t. I was clearly drawing the similarity between Hitler targeting the youth and youth pastors targeting the youth.

You were clearly drawing the similarity with parents and Hitler and also tossed in youth pastors to boot.

Hitler was about government targeting the youth. To remove them from parents teaching and churches teachers my and adhering to the governments teaching. Exactly what the left desires to do in government schools.

 

[Bradskii]

By your standards you'd be okay with hardcore inappropriate content in the school libraries then? It's all good to you?

Please keep a grip on reality.

 

[rjs330]

Please keep a grip on reality.

Just asking because under your methodology we can't say anything about what's in schools. After all it'll be a cold day in hell when we tell you what your kids can and can't read in a school library.

 

[Bradskii]

Just asking because under your methodology we can't say anything about what's in schools.

A good parent will check to see what's available. And make a decision about their kids and what they should read. And what they shouldn't.

What you cannot do is make a decision about other parents' kids and what they should and shouldn't read. I mean, how clearer does this have to be for you to grasp it?

 

[rjs330]

What you cannot do is make a decision about other parents' kids and what they should and shouldn't read. I mean, how clearer does this have to be for you to grasp it?

Right your methodology allows for there to be porn in schools. I get that. Very loud and clear. Because if I say no porn then I'm making a decision for other parents kids. I suppose books on bestiality and sado masochism, bomb making etc are just fine as well because hey, to say know is telling other people's kids what they can't read.