The Land Plan

[Love365]

Every country in the world
gives Ukraine a small amount of land
until it equals the amount of land Russia took.

Would that end the war?

 

[AlexB23]

Every country in the world
gives Ukraine a small amount of land
until it equals the amount of land Russia took.

Would that end the war?

Hmm... That is a good question. Has this "land plan" ever been practiced in history before, besides that in 1494 with colonial territories?


The proposal you have suggested Love365, where every country in the world gives a small amount of land to Ukraine until it equals the amount of land Russia took, is an interesting hypothetical question but highly unlikely to bring an end to the Russia-Ukraine conflict for several reasons, listed below:

1. Such a solution assumes that every country is willing and able to donate land to Ukraine, which is not the case. Moreover, even if all countries agreed, it would be logistically challenging to calculate an exact amount of land that equals the territory Russia annexed in 2014.

2. The conflict between Ukraine and Russia is not solely about territory but also rooted in historical, cultural, political, and geostrategic issues. Giving Ukraine back the annexed territory would not address these underlying causes of the conflict.

3. Russia's actions in Ukraine are a result of its geopolitical interests and its perception of threats to its security. The conflict is not limited to the border regions but involves the entire Ukrainian state. Therefore, a solution that only focuses on returning territory would be insufficient.

Regarding your question about whether anything similar has happened in history, there have been a few cases where territorial disputes have been resolved through land swaps or compensations. However, these instances were usually between two parties directly involved in the conflict and not on a global scale. The most notable example is probably the Treaty of Tordesillas (1494), where Spain and Portugal divided the newly discovered lands outside Europe between them. However, this is not directly comparable to the situation in Ukraine as it involved colonial territories and was agreed upon by two European powers, rather than a global community of nations.

TLDR: While your proposal is an intriguing thought experiment, it is unlikely to provide a viable solution to the Russia-Ukraine conflict. A more sustainable and comprehensive approach would be needed to address the underlying causes of the conflict, including diplomacy, confidence-building measures, economic cooperation, and addressing the security concerns of all parties involved.

 

[Love365]

1. Russia and Ukraine need seats in the European Union.

2. Russia and Ukraine need seats in the Council of Europe.

3. Russia and Ukraine need seats in the European Political Community.

4. Change the rules so NATO can expand in South America and Africa.

(That way NATO doesn’t have to grind against Russia’s border.)

 

[PloverWing]

4. Change the rules so NATO can expand in South America and Africa.

While I'm happy for us to build alliances with nations in South America and Africa, I don't think they're really "North Atlantic".

Are you just trying to build the United Nations?

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Ukraine is not going to beat Russia. What the House of Representatives approved for Ukraine is a fraction
of what they need. The funding will only prolong the war. Zelinsky needs to sit down with Putin and come
to a peaceful compromise or more deaths and destruction will take place, mostly in Ukraine.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Ukraine is not going to beat Russia. What the House of Representatives approved for Ukraine is a fraction
of what they need. The funding will only prolong the war. Zelinsky needs to sit down with Putin and come
to a peaceful compromise or more deaths and destruction will take place, mostly in Ukraine.

Putin is an imperialist despot who believes Ukraine should be Russian. As long as Putin is in power, he will use as much violence to try and conquer Ukraine and subjugate its people under his boot heel. And Putin can get away with it because, collectively, the international community wants to avoid as much direct confrontation with Putin as possible--because nobody wants to, quite reasonably, kick off a third world war. So the only thing the international community, the US included, can do is be more indirect by offering meager aid to Ukraine.

We should all desire peace and an end to the death and destruction. But we have not dealt with an expansionist dictator like this since 1939.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Arcangl86]

Every country in the world
gives Ukraine a small amount of land
until it equals the amount of land Russia took.

Would that end the war?

Or one country gives Ukraine an equal amount of land. ANd to make it easy to figure out if the land is equivalent, we can simply make that country Russia.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Putin is an imperialist despot who believes Ukraine should be Russian. As long as Putin is in power, he will use as much violence to try and conquer Ukraine and subjugate its people under his boot heel. And Putin can get away with it because, collectively, the international community wants to avoid as much direct confrontation with Putin as possible--because nobody wants to, quite reasonably, kick off a third world war. So the only thing the international community, the US included, can do is be more indirect by offering meager aid to Ukraine.

We should all desire peace and an end to the death and destruction. But we have not dealt with an expansionist dictator like this since 1939.

-CryptoLutheran

Meanwhile, Zelinsky will have the country destroyed and many people killed in vein. They will lose against Russia that is the reality they face! Better to negotiate for peace for the sake of humanity or lose everything.

 

[Pekka]

Russia facing superior foe will end the war