'The House has no choice but to impeach President ‘Quid pro Joe’ Biden' over Israel aid cutoff threat says Rep Cory Mills

[wing2000]

That's so deceptive. In reality it's 15% of 746 people who responded out of a population of 7.2 million.

Oh please. The Israeli people should fire him for allowing the worst attack on Israeli soil since the country was formed.

 

[Ceallaigh]

That has happenned with Far Right players, literally for decades.

Is it upsetting when Democrats do it?

I said it's ironic.

All that to say, I haven't heard anyone call for that.

Apparently you don't read/watch much news.

 

[Ceallaigh]

Oh please. The Israeli people should fire him for allowing the worst attack on Israeli soil since the country was formed.

Who in the Israeli government is saying he allowed it to happen?

 

[Hans Blaster]

That's a nonsensical jumble to me.

You could try reading it. Or you could read the other responses that have told you similar things like Israeli and Jews aren't the same thing.

 

[Hans Blaster]

That's so deceptive. In reality it's 15% of 746 people who responded out of a population of 7.2 million.

THAT'S. HOW. POLLS. WORK. It is a statistical sampling.

 

[wing2000]

Who in the Israeli government is saying he allowed it to happen?

Poor choice of words. Replace "allowed" with "occurred".

It was his government that was fooled by Hamas. And "For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

 

[Ceallaigh]

Poor choice of words. Replace "allowed" with "occurred".

It was his government that was fooled by Hamas. And "For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

This line of discussion started with someone posting "Netanyahu is not representative of Jews." and me asking "Is that a declaration made by the Jews in Israel?". Others chimed in on that, but haven't really answered the question.

 

[Ceallaigh]

THAT'S. HOW. POLLS. WORK. It is a statistical sampling.

It's misleading to say 15% of Israelis (or Americans or whoever), when in fact it's 15% of a small group who responded to the poll.

 

[Hans Blaster]

It's misleading to say 15% of Israelis (or Americans or whoever), when in fact it's 15% of a small group who responded to the poll.

Picard-Riker Double Facepalm.GIF

Good grief, man. That's exactly how polls work. Rejecting the statistical basis of opinion polling does not make the result invalid.

 

[Ceallaigh]

You could try reading it. Or you could read the other responses that have told you similar things like Israeli and Jews aren't the same thing.

I did try. Normally I don't struggle with trying figure out what someone is saying in a post. However that one was a word salad to me.

 

[Ceallaigh]

Picard-Riker Double Facepalm.GIF

Good grief, man. That's exactly how polls work. Rejecting the statistical basis of opinion polling does not make the result invalid.

It would be more accurate to state 25% of 1000 Americans polled, rather than stating 25% of Americans ie 25% of 1k vs 25% of 300m.

 

[Aldebaran]

Oh?
But it’s not just a favor for Biden, it’s a favor that aligns with the policy of the USA, (which yes, is largely under the control of the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave).
Huh

Evidence?

Tell it to the Kurds.

Maybe when they are the subject here.

 

[Hans Blaster]

It would be more accrete to state 25% of 1000 Americans polled, rather than stating 25% of Americans ie 25% of 1k vs 25% of 300m.

It's no different than taking any other sample. If you want to know how much oxygen is in the atmosphere, you don't need to count every oxygen molecule enveloping the Earth. You take a sample and do your best to ensure it is representative. Opinion polling is a little more complicated, based on the same principle.

 

[The Barbarian]

First off Israel is an actual treatied ally under U.S. law, passed by Congress long before anyone currently in office even had a position anywhere near Congress.

Second, the treaties we have include defense agreements.

Kinda like we had with the Kurds?

Trump Betrayed the Kurds. He Couldn’t Help Himself.​

Humiliating his own Cabinet secretaries was bad. Putting faithful American allies in harm’s way is far worse.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/trump-betrayed-kurds-whos-next/600004/

No, actually, that's not the same, is it? But even if it was, it's not a crime. And everyone knows it's not a crime.

The problem is that Comer's "investigation" came up empty and he has nothing. So the solution is to invent something.

Do you think we don't know?

 

[The Barbarian]

It's no different than taking any other sample. If you want to know how much oxygen is in the atmosphere, you don't need to count every oxygen molecule enveloping the Earth. You take a sample and do your best to ensure it is representative. Opinion polling is a little more complicated, based on the same principle.

Businesses pay tens of millions of dollars every year for polling like this. They do it, because it provides useful information about what Americans think.

 

[Pommer]

If someone has really done something seriously wrong, it's something both sides are going to recognize as such. It's not going to be so one sided. Both parties in the house and senate as well as a majority of the citizenry of both parties are going want that person ousted. But instead it's one party trying to oust someone by cobbling together scrounged up offenses that fall well short of being egregious enough to garner a more unanimous outcry to boot someone from office. Instead it ends up as nothing more than a symbolic badge of shame. If Biden gets impeached it's practically certain to actually amount do nothing as has been the case with Johnson, Clinton, Trump, and Mayorkas.

Yes, our government isn’t supposed to be operated as a parliament, where there's the “majority“ which has its members holding all of the political (non-civil-service) jobs; the minority party is to be loyal opposition opposition fighting (when appropriate, (this is where the sausage gets made, though, so “messy bits”)

Except for the highest echelons of Federal agencies, they’re mostly free of partisan-politics, though the policies of the President do occupy much of who gets to do what, when and in what ways. (Though mostly it just keeps jiggering-on under the weight of megatons of political inertia. The President’s job to the CEO of this branch of government.
it would seems that some folks think Biden’s not doing a “good job” because he’s not doing what Trump would do, even though the economy is doing okay and the pandemic is mostly over.

And no, Biden’s certainly not perfect, he doesn’t have to be.

EDIT Yes, I seem to have already responded (in much the same fashion) to this post, short-term-memory, what is that even?

 

[Pommer]

Really? What I remember from that period is GOP senators saying that despite the evidence they would not vote to convict Mr. Trump.

“And the alligators!”

 

[Pommer]

That's a nonsensical jumble to me.

Is that why you didn’t read it?

 

[Pommer]

Poor choice of words. Replace "allowed" with "occurred".

It was his government that was fooled by Hamas. And "For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Quick and decisive Leadership is essential after one has royally screwed up, otherwise one will be out of power tout-de-suite.
Power is more addictive than fentanyl; Netanyahu is hooked but bad, he’ll destroy himself to save his people just like Moishe!

 

[Ceallaigh]

Is that why you didn’t read it?

It's why I couldn't make much sense of what I read.