The dreaded conversations about sex!

Sascha Fitzpatrick

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I've heard SO many different opinions on what should be said, what shouldn't, how much to talk about it, to not talk about it before the wedding - everyone seems to have an opinion!

So, how do you guys talk about it? Do you find it difficult? What is appropriate? What isn't? Do you feel you know enough about you and your FH/FW sexual beliefs and wants? What recommendations would you give someone in a relationship about talking about sex pre-marriage?

Me and my bf don't have any hassles, really, in talking about sex. We don't actively pursue conversation about it, but if one of us reads something, or sees something on television, we will talk to each other about how we'd feel about that in our relationship, whether we'd have problems with certain behaviours, how we'd feel introducing something in particular into our relationship etc etc.

So, how have you addressed it in your relationships? Do you have certain guidelines in how you talk about it?

I'm not a virgin, either is my boyfriend, so we want to talk about some stuff, without it becoming a major temptation. Although not engaged, we are seriously considering marriage in our future, so we feel that some talk about issues like these (and finances, children, beliefs, family culture, etc) IS important to talk about - that way a long engagement, when it comes, will not be as much of a necessity as it would be if we hadn't had conversations like this (and been partaking in relationship counselling classes). Any advice from those who AREN'T virgins, and are slightly more knowledgable about sex, on how to healthily address these issues, without it becoming a temptation to sin?

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Hi Sasch,

I think it's very important to be open with your fiance and make sure they know if you are or are not a virgin.

I think it's important to leave the rest of the past (if you have one) in the past, don't bring in names, issues whatever.. it's not appropriate IMHO. [*unless there was some traumatic sexual experience that you feel you should share, then you might give more detail, or just say "I've had *this* experience you should know about, but I dont' wish to go into further detail" which ever you are comfortable with]

enough about the past..

when discussing sex with your fiance.. I think it should be non-discript. (ie. geez I can't wait til our wedding night :wink: ) instead of (ie. when we're married we do you want to do this <sexual act> .. because I think that would be awesome). Because, flirting about having sex as a married couple on occasion (example 1) is okay, but discussing HOW your going to do it is going to lead straight to temptation.

If you have fears about the experience.. I wonder if I'll feel funny naked in front of you.. or if it will hurt... or any other fears that I think those should also be discussed.

ANY of these conversations could potentialy lead to temptation, so I suggest they are done from on the phone... but remember to do it when no one is around to maintain privacy!

My $.02

Carina
 
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Cright said:
Hi Sasch,]
when discussing sex with your fiance.. I think it should be non-discript. (ie. geez I can't wait til our wedding night :wink: ) instead of (ie. when we're married we do you want to do this <sexual act> .. because I think that would be awesome). Because, flirting about having sex as a married couple on occasion (example 1) is okay, but discussing HOW your going to do it is going to lead straight to temptation.

If you have fears about the experience.. I wonder if I'll feel funny naked in front of you.. or if it will hurt... or any other fears that I think those should also be discussed.

ANY of these conversations could potentialy lead to temptation, so I suggest they are done from on the phone... but remember to do it when no one is around to maintain privacy!


Carina
Isn't some of this discussed in pre-marital counseling?
 
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tinkerbell said:
Isn't some of this discussed in pre-marital counseling?
I'm not sure... we've not started the process.. John and I have told the church we're engaged, but we're in the process of getting a 'mentor' couple assigned to us... we'll work with them for 13 weeks.

As of right now.. I usually don't put my person experiences.. only my opinions online for all to see.. but I guess I will for the moment to tell you that.. John and I don't really talk about sex... on occasion I might kiss him when we're at his house and if I feel myself losing (or wanting to lose) self control.. I'll say.. "I have to leave" and he'll know why because I've said have to leave, instead of okay.. I think i'm going to take off now or something.. when I say I have to leave, it means I HAVE To leave.. or I'll risk tempting myself further or I'll start tempting him.

The rest I pray about... It's between me and God for now.

When we're in the councling process I'll post again to let you knwo what they cover ;)

Carina
 
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tinkerbell said:
Isn't some of this discussed in pre-marital counseling?
Depends on the maturity level of the couple. I'm sure that there are sometimes a priest or pastor has to explaing everything to a couple and other times where it's assumed things can kind of go on autopilot once the knot is tied.
 
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nicodemus said:
Depends on the maturity level of the couple. I'm sure that there are sometimes a priest or pastor has to explaing everything to a couple and other times where it's assumed things can kind of go on autopilot once the knot is tied.
Sorry nicodemus, but I disagree here. We are all human and we are all gonna work out how to do what we are created to do, no how mature we are. One thing that I think maturity (rather spiritual maturity) will play a part in is how selfish or giving we will be to our spouses. If we both aren't completely giving in the intimate aspects (and all aspects) then there are gonna be big problems that come from striving for self satisfaction.

Also, I think it's none of the priest or pastor's business what you are your spouse will be doing. You will work it out and all you really need is the instructions from our Creator. He knows a lot more than any priest or pastor does. I think everyone is capable of running on "autopilot" when the time comes. (Speaking from no experience though. :p)

Cright said:
If you have fears about the experience.. I wonder if I'll feel funny naked in front of you.. or if it will hurt...
I think you make a good point here Cright. I think it's very important to discuss fears before the night, because you can save yourself a lot of unnecessary worry. Personally I was really worried that my HTB wouldn't like certain aspects of my physic. When I expressed that fear to him it eased all my worries and I realised I didn't need to be insecure.

Again, as other's have said, not to much detail!
 
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We have talked about sex, some of which has been very positive, some of which inappropriate and we have ceased discussing those things (some things we are learning as we go.) He has been with others, but he is now a new creature in Christ and we will both come to our wedding night made clean and pure by Christ. We have talked about our sexual values. Even though I haven't actually done it yet, I know where I stand on certain topics. For example, where do the two of you stand on porn, lingerie, oral, toys, etc.? For some it is a very awkward conversation, but you don't want to show up in a sleazy red little nighty only to find out that your husband finds that sort of thing morally reprehensible. Now, these conversations need to be tasteful, I certainly wouldn't go through a lingerie catalog "now, what about this one?"

Plus, it is important to discuss birth control for sure! Too many couples do too much assuming about BC. "Well, she'll just take the pill." I am so glad to know that my fiancee wants to use natural family planning!! I was a little nervous to bring that up, but he brought it up before I did!
 
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*heidi* said:
Sorry nicodemus, but I disagree here. We are all human and we are all gonna work out how to do what we are created to do, no how mature we are. One thing that I think maturity (rather spiritual maturity) will play a part in is how selfish or giving we will be to our spouses. If we both aren't completely giving in the intimate aspects (and all aspects) then there are gonna be big problems that come from striving for self satisfaction.

I think you've completely misunderstood what I meant. Someone said "Isn't some of this discussed in pre-marital counseling." I was assuming your pre-marital counseling would be coming from a clergyman. I was saying some people may have more hesitations/questions/doubts/fears about sexaual intimacy than others do. Nowhere did I suggest any selfishness in any of this. I'm not quite sure where you got that from. I was saying that in my pre-marital counseling, the priest didn't have to talk about sex very much with us as a couple, because we'd both already talked to him about it individually before, so it wasn't something we had to spend a lot of time on because he felt we had a good handle on the place of sex in a Christian marriage...and that it is a way to grow to closer to each other when both members of the couple give. My reference to being on "autopilot" meant that some people have a better understanding of the nature of sex in marriage then others do. Other people (those not on autopilot) need more instruction of sexuality's proper place within marriage. I wasn't at all referring to anything specifically sexual, like particular acts, etc if that's what you're insinuating. I was merely stating that the amount of counseling discussion (as well as discussion between the two) that has to go into it depends on the couple's spiritual maturity level.


Also, I think it's none of the priest or pastor's business what you are your spouse will be doing. You will work it out and all you really need is the instructions from our Creator. He knows a lot more than any priest or pastor does. I think everyone is capable of running on "autopilot" when the time comes. (Speaking from no experience though. :p)

I never said it was his business on what a couple is going to do. My comments about it were regarding the spiritual and mental aspects of sex, which are actually infinitely more important that the physical aspects...that part is pretty easy to figure out. Sure, it's a physical act, but it is so much more than that, it is more spiritual than anything. I don't mean that in a weird way, but that's one of the special ways in which husband and wife bond that others don't....or at least shouldn't.
 
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