Suitcase ballot video participants in Georgia - have interesting backstory

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Giuliani Ordered to Pay Georgia Election Workers’ Attorney Fees​

Rudy Giuliani was ordered to pay the attorney fees of two Georgia election workers suing him for defamation, after a judge found he failed to comply with his obligations to turn over evidence in the case.
Howell wrote that Giuliani had failed to show that his resistance to the plaintiffs’ discovery requests was “substantially justified,” which meant he was required to pay their attorney fees.

Giuliani stipulates he made false statements about Georgia election workers​

Rudy Giuliani, who served as a lawyer for former president Donald Trump, is no longer contesting as a legal matter that he made false and defamatory statements about two former Georgia election workers — but argues in a new court filing that what amounted to false claims about vote-rigging in the 2020 presidential election was constitutionally protected speech and did not damage the workers.

In his latest filing, Giuliani, a former New York mayor, stipulates that he made statements that “carry meaning that is defamatory per se.” He also stipulates in the two-page statement that some of his statements were “false,” as the election workers alleged.

In the filing, Giuliani says that his stipulations do not affect his arguments that “his statements are constitutionally protected statements or opinions” and that his conduct did not cause “any damages” to the plaintiffs.

 

[DaisyDay]

I wonder if ex-lawyer Giuliani has any assets left. Donald stopped paying him years ago.

 

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Not that there was any doubt, but...

Georgia poll workers accused in Trump-backed conspiracy theories cleared of election fraud allegations​

Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss were targets of baseless claims by election deniers.

Exclusive: Georgia lawmaker runs secret election-conspiracy Telegram channel​

Bridget Thorne, a Republican elected in Fulton county in 2022, has spread election fraud lies and accused county employees of crimes

A Fulton county commissioner in Georgia has been operating a private Telegram channel for years, propagating debunked claims about the 2020 election, and spreading accusations of crimes by county employees, including Ruby Freeman, an election worker defamed by Rudy Giuliani in the wake of Donald Trump’s 2020 loss.

In a post from 14 February, the administrator of the page accused Freeman, a former Fulton county elections worker, of misconduct, despite a Georgia elections board finding that all of the conspiracy theories about her were “false and unsubstantiated”.

“I have never stated that Ms Freeman committed any crime or election fraud,” Thorne said.

 

[BobRyan]

The post just before this one is from a June 2023 article - but this post is about July 18,2023 findings of irregularities, -- errors -- in Fulton county's 2020 election process.

State Election Board advances case alleging problems in Fulton recount

Georgia election investigators said Wednesday they found repeated human errors during an audit and recount of the 2020 presidential election in Fulton County, but the overall results appeared to be correct. The State Election Board referred the case to the attorney general's office for further...

www.ajc.com

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"Georgia election investigators reported Wednesday that they found repeated human errors during an unofficial hand recount of the 2020 presidential election in Fulton County, but the overall results appeared to be correct.

The State Election Board then voted 3-1 to refer the case to the attorney general’s office for further investigation into whether Fulton’s elections office violated election rules.

Investigators reviewed Fulton’s recount in response to concerns raised by Gov. Brian Kemp, who told the board in a November letter that he had vetted allegations of inconsistencies in the hand recount, part of a statewide audit of all 5 million ballots cast.

Overall, the results of the hand recount — both in Fulton and all of Georgia — were similar to two machine counts, showing that Democrat Joe Biden won the state by about 12,000 votes against Republican Donald Trump."

49.47% for Biden, 49.24% for Trump in 2020 (in Wikipedia today).

that's in not a 10% margin or 5% or 4% margin or 1% margin. Rather it is a margin of 0.23% and 11,779 votes. with 5,935,487 votes total going for either Trump or Biden. so is it any wonder that they want to know what happened to those missing envelopes, missing votes, missing document trail etc?

So then some "concerns" were raised

https://voterga.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Press-Release-Georgia-Audit-Riddled-by-Massive-Errors-Fraud.pdf

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Georgia investigation finds errors in Fulton audit of 2020 election

ATLANTA – (TNS) Vote counters made numerous mistakes during an audit of Georgia’s 2020 presidential election in Fulton County, including double-counted and misallocated votes, according to a consent order recently

www.murrayledger.com

This is from :

• By Mark Niesse, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
• Jul 18, 2023

"ATLANTA – (TNS) Vote counters made numerous mistakes during an audit of Georgia’s 2020 presidential election in Fulton County, including double-counted and misallocated votes, according to a consent order recently approved by the State Election Board and the county."

MSN

Multiple mistakes made in Fulton County says Audit --- no corrections

"‘Multiple Mistakes’ Made in Fulton County Vote Audit But Result Stands"

"consent order in Georgia revealed Monday that an audit to review the results of the 2020 election in Fulton County was plagued by “numerous mistakes,” The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported. The state’s election board said the errors were a result of votes being counted by hand, which saw some ballots tallied twice and others misallocated."

So the idea there was a lot of errors were found but no corrections made in the numbers for results. EVEN though the mistakes found dealt with whether votes were correctly counted!!

well since the vote in the state was split right down the middle maybe the mistakes were 50% in Biden's favor and 50% in Trumps favor? If you guess that - you would be dead wrong.

"citing the multi-step process vote counters endured in the audit. In the end, the Journal-Constitution, which reviewed investigators’ findings, estimates that about “3,000 too many absentee votes [were] counted for Biden,” but those votes weren’t included in the state’s certified count:"

Hmmm that is an audit where they "ESTIMATE" 3000 too many votes for Biden. (How odd that such a thing would get the "audit" process to find out exactly what it is ). Given that the number 3000 is about 29% of actual difference between votes counted for Biden vs Trump -- there may be some value in knowing exactly what that number is and why there were not as many "miscounted, mishandle" mistakes in the sytsem on both sides.

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now if you compare the actual facts with the "yuk yuk" and "har har" comments , one wonders if people actually take the voting process in America seriously.

 

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The post just before this one is from a June 2023 article

No, it isn't. The post it quotes is from June 2023. But the post itself quotes an article from April 2024.

- but this post is about July 18,2023 findings of irregularities, -- errors -- in Fulton county's 2020 election process.

No, it isn't.

It's an article about the unofficial count by hand. Nobody sane thinks this is better than the machine count, which is official. Regardless of the human error, the results of the unofficial hand recount showed no significant difference from the official result that Arizona went for Biden.

 

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Georgia election workers suing conspiracy website over ‘campaign of lies’
In a lawsuit filed Thursday, Ruby Freeman and her daughter allege how they became the target of a feedback loop of misinformation that included President Donald Trump.

Two Georgia election workers who became the target of conspiracy theories around the 2020 election are suing The Gateway Pundit, a far-right website that published false information about them as part of a sweeping effort to sow doubt about the integrity of the vote.

A Message from The Gateway Pundit Founder Jim Hoft to Our Readers​

TGP Communications, the parent company of The Gateway Pundit, recently made the decision to seek protection under Chapter 11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code in the Southern District of Florida as a result of the progressive liberal lawfare attacks against our media outlet.

Gateway Pundit to file for bankruptcy amid election conspiracy lawsuits​

While [Hoft] didn’t name which lawsuits he was referencing, the site is being sued for claims of defamation and infliction of emotional distressby Ruby Freeman and Wandrea Moss, two Georgia election workers who say they faced threats after the site leveled baseless accusations of ballot fraud against them.

Since its launch in 2004, the site has become a prolific clearinghouse for conspiracy theories about the election, school shootings, and other topics, helping to funnel such flimsy stories from the fringes of the internet to the broader pro-Trump right thanks to its substantial audience.

Despite its bare-bones layout and small staff, Gateway Pundit consistently ranks among the 20 most-read conservative websites online, according to Howard Polskin, who analyzes conservative media on his website, TheRighting.

 

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Workers at far-right site Gateway Pundit feared credibility issues, filing shows​

Lawyers for Ruby Freeman and her daughter Shaye Moss, two Georgia election workers suing the site for defamation, made the disclosure in a 16 April court filing seeking a court order forcing the website to turn over more internal documents. They said they had obtained text messages from Gateway Pundit’s director of operations and associate editor “expressing concerns that a contributor engaged in plagiarism and made claims without any sources”.

“Documents produced by third parties but not by Defendants show that TGP’s staff had major concerns as to the professionalism, reliability, and honesty of several contributors, including Jordan Conradson, who wrote some of the defamatory Articles,” the lawyers wrote in the filing in circuit court in St Louis, Missouri.

Conradson, 22, is a Gateway Pundit writer who rose to prominence covering the widely criticized “audit” of Maricopa county’s 2020 election results and frequently posts stories with false information about elections. He wrote two 2021 stories for Gateway Pundit cited in the lawsuit containing language that falsely accused Freeman and Moss of fraud. [22 minus 3 is 19.]

Attorneys for Freeman and Moss also said in their filing that John Burns, a lawyer for Gateway Pundit, had warned the site about relying on Kevin Moncla, a source in Georgia who fed the site information on Freeman and Moss, including their non-public personnel files, according to the filing. “Moncla is a known fabricator. I wouldn’t touch/publish anything he produces,” Burns reportedly wrote, calling him “a [goshdanged] fraud”.

In 2006, Moncla was ordered to pay $3.25m on a voyeurism charge after filming guests at his home while they were in the bathroom. [Not relevant, but I'm not cutting that detail.]