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Many people don’t believe this. Especially that demographic.

Before the pandemic he had some of the lowest unemployment rates in 50 years, decreased tensions in the Middle East, tax cuts that are popular, manufacturing jobs have increased etc. He won’t get rid of energy jobs as Biden said he will.

Biden May win but it is clear that the dems still have not bothered to find out why Trump won in 2016. They don’t care about or want to help half the people in this country. If they don’t need them to vote for them they won’t try to help them.

There are many reasons for the Clinton loss in 2016, starting with a very poor candidate that refused to deal with the email issue and chose to ignore WIS, MI and PA. However, the primary reason was turnout. Minority voters stayed home, especially in those three states.
 
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SOME THOUGHTS ON OCT 31
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I believe that Biden will take GA or PA, and AZ or WI.

At this point, I suggest that GA is very likely to vote Democratic.

PA is problematic in a close election, as is FL.

I think that Biden will easily take MN, WI and MI, although AZ could substitute for losing either MN or WI.

MY BOTTOM LINE
1) MI is safe
2) Biden will take GA and/or PA
3) Biden will take 2 of MN, WI and AZ
4) I think that the polls are correct; a major win for Biden is about 50%.
5) Trump certainly still has a chance.
 
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Here Are The Billionaires Backing Donald Trump’s Campaign

The Democratic candidate and lawmakers are ready to work with the scientists to have policies in place to reduce the direction of contribution to climate catastrophe being so significantly soon, they are actually listening to the scientists and will turn things in the right direction. With Trump continuing and none of that happening, nothing protects this planet with all its natural environments from the destructiveness from continuing from Trump in office.

This is a serious mistake, disregarding the scientists will be ruining this world, which is sure happening with the same administration remaining, if that happens.

As Election Nears, Trump Makes a Final Push Against Climate Science

Opinion | When Science Is Pushed Aside
 
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Here Are The Billionaires Backing Donald Trump’s Campaign

The Democratic candidate and lawmakers are ready to work with the scientists to have policies in place to reduce the direction of contribution to climate catastrophe being so significantly soon, they are actually listening to the scientists and will turn things in the right direction. With Trump continuing and none of that happening, nothing protects this planet with all its natural environments from the destructiveness from continuing from Trump in office.

This is a serious mistake, disregarding the scientists will be ruining this world, which is sure happening with the same administration remaining, if that happens.

As Election Nears, Trump Makes a Final Push Against Climate Science

Opinion | When Science Is Pushed Aside
What policies will Biden implement? Also how will he going to get China to implement them as well? The US alone cannot stop climate change.
 
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TO BE REAL
Biden is very, very likely to take MI and WI.
The turnout has been very high (thank you Trump), probably higher than the Obama elections.
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Trump then would need ALL of these states
AZ, FL, GA, IA, NC, OH, PA and TX.
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We'll likely be pretty sure by the time I go to sleep (usually2AM or so EST on election night).
 
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When will we know the result? Couple of days?
before I go to sleep at 2AM

If Biden takes WI and MI,
Trump needs all of AZ, FL, GA, IA, NC, OH, PA and TX.

Trump could delay to the count in WI and MI, but FRI will be the latest we'll need to wait.
 
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Before the pandemic he had some of the lowest unemployment rates in 50 years
Partly as the continuation of the lowering in the last years of Obama, partly due to lowering of environmental standards, which will cause health and even economic problems in the long run.

decreased tensions in the Middle East
Can't see that Trump did anything in that. The lowering of tensions between Israel and Saudi-Arabia and some gulf states began before Trump and has much to do with a common enemy: Iran. The Kushner plan is dead, because the Palestinians were not included in its design, they simply refuse to work with it.

He won’t get rid of energy jobs as Biden said he will.
Its new to me that Biden wants to hamper the solar energy industry or other branches were new "energy jobs" will be created in the future.

Or do you think of those kind of "energy jobs" that will cause more carbon dioxide and thus cause a faster climate change that will cause economic damage (large hurricanes, more wildfires, more blizzards with very low temperatures, more floods and more draughts, ...)?
 
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Partly as the continuation of the lowering in the last years of Obama, partly due to lowering of environmental standards, which will cause health and even economic problems in the long run.
Yes, the opposing party always credits the previous president with anything good that happens in the current administration.

Yes lowering unwarranted or unachievable environmental standards will increase employment.


Can't see that Trump did anything in that. The lowering of tensions between Israel and Saudi-Arabia and some gulf states began before Trump and has much to do with a common enemy: Iran. The Kushner plan is dead, because the Palestinians were not included in its design, they simply refuse to work with it.
Believe what you think is true based on good evidence.


Its new to me that Biden wants to hamper the solar energy industry or other branches were new "energy jobs" will be created in the future.
Solar, wind, geothermal etc. are not viable to produce the amount of energy we require. Some experts think we don't have enough fossil fuels to transfer to a 100% renewable energy economy. We need to manage the decline.

Or do you think of those kind of "energy jobs" that will cause more carbon dioxide and thus cause a faster climate change that will cause economic damage (large hurricanes, more wildfires, more blizzards with very low temperatures, more floods and more draughts, ...)?
All renewable/non carbon producing technology has negative environmental impacts as well. Also, most renewable energy equipment requires fossil fuels for production. Where are we going to get the energy required to power all the electric cars? It is not as simple as just mandating change we need to have a plan. We also need to have real science and discussion if we want to lower the impact on the environment. The only way is to radically change our way of living. Most are not willing to do that.
 
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Solar, wind, geothermal etc. are not viable to produce the amount of energy we require. Some experts think we don't have enough fossil fuels to transfer to a 100% renewable energy economy. We need to manage the decline.

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Nuclear is the missing source.
 
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Yes, the opposing party always credits the previous president with anything good that happens in the current administration.
You can do it only for 2 years, unless you have special cases (what has to be proven). But for the first year almost everything in the economy is the result of what happened before. Like a large ship needs time to change the course (you can stop the machines miles before the harbor).

Yes lowering unwarranted or unachievable environmental standards will increase employment.
Define "unwarranted". Environmental danger is mostly a thing of the future. We now suffer from plastic n fish that reached the oceans in the last decades, we suffer from climate change that has started about 200 years ago, and accelerates because now some critical points have been crossed ... two examples were damage was not prevented because regulations who could do it were "unwarranted" (China told the world climate change was an US invention to hamper the Chinese economy, when the Chinese got caught by the reality, and the Paris agreement could be achieved, Trump began to repeat this slogan, with only a slight change).

Believe what you think is true based on good evidence.
What evidence? You seem to have no arguments against the evidence I mentioned.

Solar, wind, geothermal etc. are not viable to produce the amount of energy we require. Some experts think we don't have enough fossil fuels to transfer to a 100% renewable energy economy. We need to manage the decline.
You certainly have to do some effort to reduce the amount of energy you consume. One reason American cars do not sell well in the world is that they consume too much gas without giving more power to the engine ...

It is clear you cannot stop using fossil carbon at once. Even the countries with the most ambitious plans will do in only in a few years. But every reduction is helpful. What you said sounds like "we can't do everything, so lets do nothing".

All renewable/non carbon producing technology has negative environmental impacts as well. Also, most renewable energy equipment requires fossil fuels for production. Where are we going to get the energy required to power all the electric cars? It is not as simple as just mandating change we need to have a plan. We also need to have real science and discussion if we want to lower the impact on the environment. The only way is to radically change our way of living. Most are not willing to do that.
The last sentence is true in almost every part of the world. Perhaps a good welfare system will help to persuade the people that a change will give more benefits in the long run than harms in the present.
 
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Nuclear is the missing source.
Forgotten Three Miles Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima?

Near Chernobyl, millions were not evacuated because there was no place to move then to. Several thousand deaths from cancer in the following decades. With Fukushima, it were dozens of millions. And now imagine something like this happens in the USA and you should evacuate the region from NYC to Baltimore ...
 
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You can do it only for 2 years, unless you have special cases (what has to be proven). But for the first year almost everything in the economy is the result of what happened before. Like a large ship needs time to change the course (you can stop the machines miles before the harbor).
Trump had the lowest unemployment in 50 years before the shutdowns. The economy was very strong. Was that due to Trump policies or Obama's?


Define "unwarranted". Environmental danger is mostly a thing of the future. We now suffer from plastic n fish that reached the oceans in the last decades, we suffer from climate change that has started about 200 years ago, and accelerates because now some critical points have been crossed ... two examples were damage was not prevented because regulations who could do it were "unwarranted" (China told the world climate change was an US invention to hamper the Chinese economy, when the Chinese got caught by the reality, and the Paris agreement could be achieved, Trump began to repeat this slogan, with only a slight change).
I define unwarranted as environmental regulations that have no effect on the environment or that are unachievable. Note that I am not saying no regulation, I am saying smart regulations that actually do something. Considering the consequences of one regulation on another part of the environment is needed.

What is your plan for China? How do we get them to comply with environmental regulations?

You certainly have to do some effort to reduce the amount of energy you consume. One reason American cars do not sell well in the world is that they consume too much gas without giving more power to the engine ...
American cars have the same fuel efficiencies as foreign cars for the most part. They probably don't sell well because they are an inferior product to Asian and German cars.

The US produces 3.99E12 kWh/year in electricity. We consume 4.83E12 kWh of gasoline for cars/trucks each year. If we want to eliminate internal combustion engines we need to double the electrical output of the nation. How do we do this? Cannot be done with renewable's alone. (Plus internal combustion engines are fun!)


It is clear you cannot stop using fossil carbon at once. Even the countries with the most ambitious plans will do in only in a few years. But every reduction is helpful. What you said sounds like "we can't do everything, so lets do nothing".
No, not at all. The air was a lot worse in cities when I was a little kid. We have made good progress in my life with good policies. That is what I am advocating. We need to be real about the problem so we can get to a real solution. What if a 100% renewable society is not achievable? We should have a plan for this instead of running into disaster wishing we will get there.


The last sentence is true in almost every part of the world. Perhaps a good welfare system will help to persuade the people that a change will give more benefits in the long run than harms in the present.
Maybe.
 
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