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Speaking from experience, this approach does not work well, and will cause a rift between the original poster and her stepmom.
It's best not to "attack" what the person loves, even if you show scriptures.

If someone wants to learn, they will seek out answers, and so, the best method is to simply share Bible truths. Which is what I have been doing.

I've used scriptures on these forums to share basic Bible truths, and there are persons here that have stopped communicating with me, and refused to even give a like for a post where I simply commend them.
So, just imagine when I do more than share Bible truths, but prove by scriptural references that what they believe is not Biblical. :)
The original poster does not want to generate hate between her and her stepmom.
Why would her stepmom hate knowing facts? I was a Mormon for years and I would have welcomed TRUTH sooner than I found it!

Mormons don't regard us as true Christians!


An Angel is supposedly teaching:

Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 14:10
"And he said unto me: Behold there sre save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongerh to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the harlot of all the earth.

The Doctrine of Covenants tells the reader which church pleases God, lots of anti-biblical teachings authored by Joseph Smith, etc. I can fill interested people in, but not right now. Mormon god impregnated Mary, one of his daughters, as humans do. He fathered Jesus. I have their books.

Feel free to ask me questions.
 
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Speaking from experience, this approach does not work well, and will cause a rift between the original poster and her stepmom.
It's best not to "attack" what the person loves, even if you show scriptures.

If someone wants to learn, they will seek out answers, and so, the best method is to simply share Bible truths. Which is what I have been doing.

I've used scriptures on these forums to share basic Bible truths, and there are persons here that have stopped communicating with me, and refused to even give a like for a post where I simply commend them.
So, just imagine when I do more than share Bible truths, but prove by scriptural references that what they believe is not Biblical. :)
The original poster does not want to generate hate between her and her stepmom.
Let me clarify. If she gets along with her stepmum she can share gently. Be an ambassador. Don't argue with people. That makes people angry. If the person is a longtime or lifelong Mormon he is probably thoroughly indoctrinated and shouldn't be posting on CF. Use their books of scripture. I can help. The new or average Mormon hasn't made temple vows to keep secrets.
 
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Devout Mormons believe there are three separate gods over this earth. They say all people are gods in embryo and are here to learn how to become gods just as their heavenly father, their jesus and other gods on other planets have done. No one ever became a god without strict obedience to Mormonism ("Plan of Salvation").

Mormon gods are humans who have earned godhood. They are willing to criticize ex-Mormons and anything or anyone in order to make converts. BTW, today's Motmons hate the word "earned" but that's their way to get eternal life/godhood.

Doctrine and Covenants (D & C) is a lengthy book of scripture in their church.

D & C 130:
22 The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s. . . .

The Bible says God is spirit; Jesus said "a spirit hath not flesh and bones."

As I said, I'm not a typist. I hope a Trinitarian will please jump in here and help me defend Christianity.
 
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I just want to point out that there is a wealth of information regarding how to answer Mormons (and members of other cults) in the "Debate Non-Christian Religions" subforum. Though it is closed to further posting, you should still be able to read posts that are there, including the many, many (really, so many) threads and posts in which knowledgeable Mormons, ex-Mormons, and others discuss matters concerning that religion, its historicity (or lack thereof), and other things. It is worth looking through if you have questions about Mormonism from a Christian and from a Mormon perspective.
 
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I just want to point out that there is a wealth of information regarding how to answer Mormons (and members of other cults) in the "Debate Non-Christian Religions" subforum. Though it is closed to further posting, you should still be able to read posts that are there, including the many, many (really, so many) threads and posts in which knowledgeable Mormons, ex-Mormons, and others discuss matters concerning that religion, its historicity (or lack thereof), and other things. It is worth looking through if you have questions about Mormonism from a Christian and from a Mormon perspective.
You are the person who can defend the Trinity here! :)
 
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Devout Mormons believe there are three separate gods over this earth. They say all people are gods in embryo and are here to learn how to become gods just as their heavenly father, their jesus and other gods on other planets have done. No one ever became a god without strict obedience to Mormonism ("Plan of Salvation").

Mormon gods are humans who have earned godhood. They are willing to lie about ex-Mormons and anything or anyone in order to make converts.

Doctrine and Covenants (D & C) is a lengthy book of sctipture in their church.

D & C 130:
22 The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s. . . .

The Bible says God is spirit; Jesus said "a spirit hath not flesh and bones."

As I said, I'm not a typist. I hope a Trinitarian will please jump in here and help me defend Christianity.

I don't know anything about the Mormons to be helpful.

I think you explained beautifully. I learned a lot and found it interesting..

I would have just said they aren't Trinitarians because that is invalidating for baptism... You have to be baptized in the Name of and with the intention of the Christian Triune God when your baptized for it to be a valid baptism.

Even if the words are the same it's clearly a different God worshipped and prayed to so nothing sacramental is valid.
 
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You are the person who can defend the Trinity here! :)

I hope everyone can defend the Trinity here and everywhere, as that is how God has revealed Himself to us. As I'm sure you know, my friend, it's not about having a bunch of academic knowledge, but about being strong in your faith, which you and many others definitely are. We are 'co-defendants', let's say, of the Truth. :)
 
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Evangelicals: Concentrate on Ephesians 1 & 2, biblical phrases "not of works," Isaiah 43: 10 (ONLY ONE GOD)! Ask me questions --- I know more than I did back in the day when I posted here at CF.
 
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You are the person who can defend the Trinity here! :)

Nah I don't think the poster needed a defense for the Trinity, I think he was just curious.

I used to be Muslim, and Muslims don't baptize but the concept would be the same.

The Triune God is a different God from what the rest worship, and anything sacramental would not be valid coming from a non trinitarian faith.

You and I know this instinctively because we have been in religions that claimed at least something of the same God and after actually encountering the Triune God we know that we were more than just lost, but instead completely deceived.

Most Christians I think know this, many anyway. It's just not easy to give an adequate voice to this truth and I often think most people don't understand the gravity of it.
 
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I hope everyone can defend the Trinity here and everywhere, as that is how God has revealed Himself to us. As I'm sure you know, my friend, it's not about having a bunch of academic knowledge, but about being strong in your faith, which you and many others definitely are. We are 'co-defendants', let's say, of the Truth. :)
I saw what you posted here, but don't know the link. It was extremely helpful! Words can strengthen our faith. For me, I learn by reading. "Thy word have I hid in mine heart that I might not sin against thee." I was duped by Mormons because I barely knew the Bible. My few Christian relatives barely know what we call apologetics. Read 2 Timothy 3:16.
 
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Nah I don't think the poster needed a defense for the Trinity, I think he was just curious.

I used to be Muslim, and Muslims don't baptize but the concept would be the same.

The Triune God is a different God from what the rest worship, and anything sacramental would not be valid coming from a non trinitarian faith.

You and I know this instinctively because we have been in religions that claimed at least something of the same God and after actually encountering the Triune God we know that we were more than just lost, but instead completely deceived.

Most Christians I think know this, many anyway. It's just not easy to give an adequate voice to this truth and I often think most people don't understand the gravity of it.
I'm coming from another perspective. Mormons believe parts of the Bible but criticize the Trinity. God strongly impressed on me that I should read the Bible because Mormons only believed verses that could be used to conform to their teachings. My parents and grand parents weren't Christians or any religion. If I hadn't started reading my Bible, I couldn't have become Christian. In the atmosphere in which I was raised, I needed to learn what GOD has said! I did not know the Bible instinctively.

In Mormonism, the "Father god" had sex with his created daughter Mary. That is disgusting and blasphemous.

Joseph Smith said "You have got to learn to be Gods yourselves, the same as all Gods have done before you."

I'm old and have studied Mormonism for decades. I know how to compare it to Christianity. I'm sorry if people disagree with me and disrespect my knowledge.
 
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New International Version
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

New Living Translation
Work hard so you can present yourself to God and receive his approval. Be a good worker, one who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly explains the word of truth.

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Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

It seems as though people here are trying to silence me, but I didn't mean to offend anyone.
 
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:cry: BIBLE:

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All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

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All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
 
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Mormon missionaries, while they no doubt sincerely believe they are doing the Lord's work, are emissaries of Satan, as it is Satan who whispers into the ears of religious con artists like Joseph Smith and their progeny in various latter-day cults.

And, I'd add, we ought to understand this as tragedy; well meaning people who are under a harsh spiritual delusion.

I don't know if this is appropriate here, but I wanted to share my personal experience with Mormon missionaries. It was a long time ago, over 20 years ago in fact. I was in a place where I was still in an early stage of learning about my own Christian faith, having begun to question some of the assumptions of the form of Christianity I had been raised with, and as a result had been engaged in a lot of intense study about the early Church, learning a lot more about Scripture--reading the Bible a lot more than I previously had, and had begun reading some of the works of the early fathers of the Church.

At this time a couple of missionaries came, and I made a decision to let them come in. My goal wasn't to engage in a debate of competing apologetics, rather I was more interested in listening and hearing Mormon beliefs directly from the source, from active and practicing Mormons themselves. It was curiosity, there was what I had been told Mormons believe; but there were a lot of things I had been told certain groups of people believed and I learned that this wasn't always accurate, so I wanted to hear things from Mormons themselves.

What transpired was a largely, and clearly obvious, routine script; and whenever I had questions it seemed like I was interrupting them. Almost as though they didn't fully expect to get asked anything, and they even admitted that they didn't really know how to answer many of my questions, but that they'd bring a more knowledeable guy with them next time if they could return. I said yes, they went on their way. A few weeks later they returned with another missionary. The first two were my age, just out of high school, the new guy was probably in his mid-late 20's.

So I got a lot of the same script, with a few extra details, but I still had questions. My questions started to visibly upset the older missionary, as he was getting increasingly more frustrated. In the end I didn't really get a lot of answers to the things I asked, and they left, saying they'd return later--which they never did. Now I'm not sharing this story to say "I got 'em" because that wasn't what I was trying to do in the first place, it was genuine curiosity, and I didn't think the questions I was asking were unfair or strange. As an example, when they explained that since Jesus organized His Church with Himself at the top with Twelve Apostles, that is how it was always supposed to be, which is why the LDS has a "Prophet"/President and a "Quorum of Twelve Apostles". My question, as I saw it, seemed simple enough: Who was in charge after Jesus ascended? I got a vague answer of "possibly Peter?" which made me ask, "Oh, sort of like the Pope then?" They didn't like that, and I followed it up asking "But wasn't Peter a member of the Twelve?" Which they also didn't like. Which is around the time the older missionary said it was time to leave and the other two younger missionaries followed without really saying much.

In addition to all this, there was also a very bizarre sensation I had throughout the whole exchange and encounter which I can't quite put my finger on. Which made it seem very unnerving. Something I can only describe as a general sense of emptiness, or darkness, like I wasn't talking to people who were thinking for themselves.

All else aside, I think there is a certain cruelty in sending what are often barely adult young people who are simply too young and too ill-equipped out and about. I can't figure out why, from a purely practical vantage point, that would make sense. Surely common sense would suggest that people you are trying to convert to your religion would ask a lot of questions and challenge certain assertions.

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As I tried to say earlier, there are ways to speak to cultists who teach blasphemy. Someone who is sucked in and love bombed hasn't been told everything. Topics include their criticism of Christianity, the obedience to non-blblical commandments, strict requirements to obtain forgiveness, becoming gods who are married so they can populate planets, sending Christian people of this earth to lower postions in the next life. Only Mormon baptisms are valid according to Mormonism.

Doctrine and Covenants 1
29 And after having received the record of the Nephites, yea, even my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., might have power to translate through the mercy of God, by the power of God, the Book of Mormon.
30 And also those to whom these commandments were given, might have power to lay the foundation of this church, and to bring it forth out of obscurity and out of darkness, the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which I, the Lord, am well pleased, speaking unto the church collectively and not individually.
 
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Well ... difficult decision for sure .... I couldn't go and would just say ... although I feel it's wonderful that you are accepting Jesus into your heart ...
According to their own scripture accepting Jesus into yout heart is false doctine!
Doctrine and Covenants 130
SECTION 130

Items of instruction given by Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Ramus, Illinois, April 2, 1843.

1–3, The Father and the Son may appear personally to men; 4–7, Angels reside in a celestial sphere; 8–9, The celestial earth will be a great Urim and Thummim; 10–11, A white stone is given to all who enter the celestial world; 12–17, The time of the Second Coming is withheld from the Prophet; 18–19, Intelligence gained in this life rises with us in the Resurrection; 20–21, All blessings come by obedience to law; 22–23, The Father and the Son have bodies of flesh and bones.

1 When the Savior shall appear we shall see him as he is. We shall see that he is a man like ourselves.
2 And that same sociality which exists among us here will exist among us there, only it will be coupled with eternal glory, which glory we do not now enjoy.
3 John 14:23—The appearing of the Father and the Son, in that verse, is a personal appearance and the idea that the Father and the Son dwellin a man’s heart is an old sectarian notion, and is false.

Mormons do not believe in the Trinity. They affirm the unity of three personages, but the unity is a relational unity in purpose and mind, not a unity of essence. The three separate beings of the Godhead are three distinct Gods (this is not so according to scripture).

Praying God gives you direction on the matter. Amen
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