How to argue with solipsist? Slippery type denies, when it is profitable, own mind and solipsism!

[Edison Trent]

Science begins with a question. Next comes an hypothesis. Then you test your hypothesis. You let others test your hypothesis. It's your goal to have the hypothesis shown to be false. After repeated testing, with multiple independent lines of evidence to support the hypothesis, an hypothesis then becomes a theory (i.e. atomic theory, germ theory of disease, music theory, theory of evolution, etc.).

Scientific theory - Wikipedia

Are you saying the sun is just a theory of atomic fusion?,

or is the sun a atomic device?

 

[HitchSlap]

Are you saying the sun is just a theory of atomic fusion?,

or is the sun a atomic device?

sigh...

Stellar evolution - Wikipedia

 

[Edison Trent]

sigh...

Stellar evolution - Wikipedia

sigh, so your knowledge of science just evolve out of stellar evolution, there is no science in that it just happened to be, you said it yourself, science is a theory first than in practice.

so all science is just theory after evolve theory, nothing is designed it all just happens, no one learns in school about science, the answer just comes to them by chance it evolve in their head,

 

[Ophiolite]

Why are there links to Russian websites in your post, OP?

Since January, Russian websites trump all others.

 

[HitchSlap]

sigh, so your knowledge of science just evolve out of stellar evolution, there is no science in that it just happened to be, you said it yourself, science is a theory first than in practice.

so all science is just theory after evolve theory, nothing is designed it all just happens, no one learns in school about science, the answer just comes to them by chance it evolve in their head,

In your own words, define what a scientific theory is.

 

[Edison Trent]

In your own words, define what a scientific theory is.

do you know that already, it just evolved in your head, nothing you create is of science it all just evolves with no theory and science can not test the evolution nothing designed evolution to evolve it just happen to be, so any study of human science is all fake stuff.

 

[HitchSlap]

do you know that already, it just evolved in your head, nothing you create is of science it all just evolves with no theory and science can not test the evolution nothing designed evolution to evolve it just happen to be, so any study of human science is all fake stuff.

Sorry, I can't make heads or tails of this.

 

[Edison Trent]

Sorry, I can't make heads or tails of this.

how can you be saved by science, if your science is based on stellar evolution, and every person who doesn't believe in a creator, knows that nothing or no One designed evolution to evolve. so all science is based on working properties of a evolve universe is just simply theory of a chance universe.

 

[HitchSlap]

how can you be saved by science, if your science is based on stellar evolution, and every person who doesn't believe in a creator, knows that nothing or no One designed evolution to evolve. so all science is based on working properties of a evolve universe is just simply theory of a chance universe.

If you have a question, you should ask it.

 

[Edison Trent]

In your own words, define what a scientific theory is.

what you see and know of science comes from God who designed with His theory and what He wanted the universe to be, not in 6 days but over billions of years, if you could live in a infinite realm would you do anything quickly.

 

[Edison Trent]

If you have a question, you should ask it.

I don't think we can chat anymore, you spin and twist to much.

 

[Ophiolite]

I don't have to prove God exists--HE does that! Your argument is not with me, but with Him. Why does it bother you so that I believe in God, why does it take up so much of your time pushing back against something you say you don't believe even exists? This is why: you KNOW He exists but to admit it makes you have to admit your errors.

You were responding to one individual, but your remarks appear to be generic in nature. I understand them to be directed equally towards me.

This is extremely presumptive and consequently seriously offensive. It is also, for me, 100% wrong - which makes it 100% offensive. You do not know the nature of my inner thoughts. You do not know what path has led me to my current viewpoint. I will not speculate on why you would harbour this view. I'll leave the speculation to you.

I do note that you are a CF Ambassador. These are described as ". . . . friendly, positive, encouraging, and they enjoy helping other members here at CF." I find it difficult to associate those characteristics with the posting of false accusations about members. I trust you will now retract, or seriously rephrase those comments.

 

[joinfree]

Why are there links to Russian websites in your post, OP?

Aren't we educated enough?

 

[HitchSlap]

I don't think we can chat anymore, you spin and twist to much.

Telling you to ask me a question somehow implies I'm "spinning and twisting too much?" You're right, it's impossible for us to chat.

 

[Skreeper]

Absolute solipsist can not even live in a bunk in a psychiatric hospital: he does not recognize the need to breathe. Therefore, atheists are looking like dishonest people (subconsciously), for them life is a game in which they watch what else can be solipsist-ed:
Даже в атеисте есть ещё очень много добра (Дмитрий Мартила) / Проза.ру
Look: the word "reality" is defined as "what comes from God." You do not have an alternative definition of reality "what everyone sees all the time", because there may be a constant mass hallucination, for example among the fascists: "Adolf Hitler, the holy German Fuhrer." So, denying God is denying the Reality, and this is already solipsism.

What is knowledge? This is any proven thing. Proved to God. So, God is Knowledge.
We calculate the probability of the All-Knowing Being. He - by definition - knows everything, so He knows about his own existence. Therefore, the probability of Him is 100%. "Absolute exists Absolutely."

The existence of God is the most important Dogma. A dogma is absolute true knowledge:

Thus, God is proved among theists. According to the theists, blasphemers did not refute any of the proofs of God. Theists can not lie by definition of theists (which is the "holy people", the Body of Christ), thus, liars are blasphemers of proofs. The denial of the existence of theists is an empty part of empty absolute solipsism. After all, nothing (emptiness, a nothingness of sin) is a false god of blasphemers.

Blasphemers said (and blasphemy against Truth is blasphemy against God, because God is Truth) that proofs are based on unproven premises (axioms). I do not agree, for the blasphemers have demonstrated logical fallacy called "wishful thinking".

Science has determined that miracles are real
Чудеса как Доказательство Православного Бога (Дмитрий Мартила) / Проза.ру
(blasphemers call them "the God of the gaps") in Reality: the Holy Fire, the Lanciano Mircale, the Turin Shroud, the wonders of the Sacred Icons.
Miracle of Lanciano - Wikipedia

"God of gaps" will remain forever in Physics. Because there is the Theology in top Universities: Science is not only Physics. Science is the Quest for Knowledge, and faith is faithfulness to Knowledge. Thus, the "gaps" in Physics are filled with information from Theology. So, there are no gaps in the Reality.

If you are a pantheist, a Satanist, an atheist, a pagan, etc., do you study your faith? I'll help you.
To call the True God as a "flying spaghetti monster", "pink dragon in my garage", "tree", "table", "nature", "space", "nothing", "satan" - a logical fallacy "names calling". God likes the names approved by God. "The fallacy of name calling" mixes two different things, for example: spaghetti = Jesus Christ.
Причина заблуждений - смешение понятий (Дмитрий Мартила) / Проза.ру

God is defined as "absolutely superior" (in all good). We are stronger than a tree, so we can not write "God = tree", otherwise it's "name calling".
There is much proofs of God. Let's start with the "5 Ways of Thomas Aquinas"
Thomas Aquinas - Wikipedia
in my modern retelling:

God is the First Cause (there are causes in the world), is the Lawmaker (there are laws), is the Reason (there is a reasonable system of concepts and definitions) and the First Engine (many things move).

The fuel of the stars (hydrogen) is burned without compensation, so there must be an immaterial beginning of the material world.
О выгорании топлива. Вселенная не идеальна! (Дмитрий Мартила) / Проза.ру
On the theory of the pulsating universe. Latter is not true, because the "Circle of Life" does not mean a circular time: the beginning of the universe is not its End. To fuel the circle of life, you need fuel.

According to Einstein, the falling body is in zero gravity, therefore in the General Theory of Relativity there is no gravity force. But at the moment when the body reached Earth, it experiences a push from the Earth. The very first push is from God, God is the First-pusher.

You can add a lot of other proofs.

1. Time machines exist in science, so God is necessary for solving their paradoxes: http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B00HOHWYRY
God and the mind can not be separated. So, there is no State and Religion separation in Heaven.

2. The work of E. Kant can be described as follows:
Free will is obvious (otherwise there can not be prisons), so there is God.

3. If a tourist finds a clock in the forest, then he is perfectly 100% sure that they originated from the creator with free will (by definition of a person). Thus, in our subconscious knowledge there is the Creator of Nature.

4. The DNA chain (and seeds of animals and plants) contain information (plan) on how to build an organism. There must be a source of information: God. God is the Informer (there is information). Refusal of information is only part of the refusals, made by an absolute solipsist. So atheists lie that there is no information in DNA.

5. Genetics has discovered that all of humanity is blood brothers and sisters: they share a common father and mother. Почему у нас в генах нет Митохондрии первой обезья (Дмитрий Мартила) / Проза.ру

6. The work of Anselm gives:
we can think of an infinitely influential being. If He does not exist in external reality, then He is not infinitely influential. Then, because of the law of non-contradiction, the being in our mind lives in external reality.

7. Millions and billions of believers were infinitely terribly tortured. The torturers demanded (and demand now, even in the scientific community) that theists must accept atheism: Ответы@Mail.Ru: А правда, что доброта более хрупка, чем зло? Доброта ранима как воздушный или мыльный шарик.
These billions of holy martyrs have kept faith. None of the atheists were so tortured to accept theism. Because everyone knows in their own subconscious: atheism is just a useless illness.

Schwibbildy dudduli ding dong ugga ugga da da!

 

[Skreeper]

Schwibbildy dudduli ding dong ugga ugga da da!

Good point fine sir! You really opened my eyes to that amazing fact and your tale is most riveting!

 

[drjean]

You were responding to one individual, but your remarks appear to be generic in nature. I understand them to be directed equally towards me.

This is extremely presumptive and consequently seriously offensive. It is also, for me, 100% wrong - which makes it 100% offensive. You do not know the nature of my inner thoughts. You do not know what path has led me to my current viewpoint. I will not speculate on why you would harbour this view. I'll leave the speculation to you.

I do note that you are a CF Ambassador. These are described as ". . . . friendly, positive, encouraging, and they enjoy helping other members here at CF." I find it difficult to associate those characteristics with the posting of false accusations about members. I trust you will now retract, or seriously rephrase those comments.

God tells us that the gospel is offensive to those who refuse to believe. Again, your argument is with Him, not me. However, if you do find the quoting of Scripture offensive, why be at a Christian Forum? If you truly want to find out IF God exists, just ask Him to reveal Himself to you... He will if you truly mean it.

To attribute my knowing of humankind's sinful nature as mindreading is done in error. I do encourage you to find what you are truly looking for, as I do with all members here at CF. If it's God you seek, you're in the right place. I, nor anyone else reading, needs to know your innermost thoughts, but God does know them. He loves you and wants only good for you. If what you have isn't good, then it's not from God.

Don't deny His existence; try thinking otherwise (what's the danger, they are only thoughts.)

 

[joinfree]

Schwibbildy dudduli ding dong ugga ugga da da!

In the thread I have proven to God, that atheists are dishonest mockers. Look:

 

[HitchSlap]

God tells us that the gospel is offensive to those who refuse to believe.

Well, if you were honest, you'd admit that the bible was written by humans, claiming to speak for god. There is a difference. But yes, there are many things in the bible I find offensive, including, but not limited to; ownership of slaves, honor killings, genocide, infanticide, etc.

Again, your argument is with Him, not me.

Well, since he's not here to defend himself, looks like I'm stuck with you.

However, if you do find the quoting of Scripture offensive, why be at a Christian Forum?

Well, I joined this forum when I was a Christian. And quoting scripture to non-believers is not as effective as you think it might be. It has no magical sway over people.

If you truly want to find out IF God exists, just ask Him to reveal Himself to you... He will if you truly mean it.

He knows where to find me. I'm pretty busy as it is, though.

To attribute my knowing of humankind's sinful nature as mindreading is done in error. I do encourage you to find what you are truly looking for,

I have; the freedom to accept things as they are.

as I do with all members here at CF. If it's God you seek, you're in the right place.

It's also a good place to lose your faith, if it's reality you seek.

I, nor anyone else reading, needs to know your innermost thoughts, but God does know them. He loves you and wants only good for you. If what you have isn't good, then it's not from God.

Cool.

Don't deny His existence; try thinking otherwise (what's the danger, they are only thoughts.)

Well, you can't choose your beliefs.

 

[drjean]

No, I do not accept the premise as you lay out that the Bible was written by humans. God used their hands and minds, but HE spoke the Words.

My quoting of Scripture was in support of my premise that everyone has a place of knowledge inside of himself of God's existence.

One is either a Christian or not.. no going back. I do recognize that the term "Christian" has been highjacked by the world, with over 67% claiming to be Christian but denying Jesus is the Only Way of salvation= they are not really Christian. (One of the reasons I try to use "believer" instead.) If you truly used to believe, then why doubt now?