Dark matter, dark energy, and spiritual realm

[tonychanyt]

There are two kinds of matter particles in the universe. Some scientists think that ordinary matter comprises baryons, while dark matter is non-baryonic. Ordinary matter is visible to our eyes and mechanical sensors, while dark matter is invisible.

CERN:

Unlike normal matter, dark matter does not interact with the electromagnetic force. This means it does not absorb, reflect or emit light. Researchers have been able to infer the existence of dark matter only from the gravitational effect it seems to have on visible matter.

While dark matter explains the hidden gravitational force that pulls a galaxy in place, a seemingly opposite anti-gravitational force pushes galaxies away from one another: dark energy.

NASA:

One explanation for dark energy is that it is a property of space. ... As more space comes into existence, more of this energy-of-space would appear. As a result, this form of energy would cause the universe to expand faster and faster.

NASA:

It turns out that roughly 68% of the universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the universe.

Over the course of a human lifetime, the total amount of dark matter to pass through your body doesn't even add up to one gram.

Does the Bible mention dark matter?

I think so. Genesis 1:

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and void,

Was this the invisible dark earth existing in the spiritual realm?

and darkness was over the surface of the deep.

Watch the parallelism: darkness parallels Spirit of God.

And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.

Was the spiritual realm composed of dark matter and energy?

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

Then came ordinary matter and energy. The physical, visible universe began.

4 God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness

as if darkness was material like light.

Isaiah 45:

7a I form light and create darkness.

The invisible became visible, Hebrews 11:

3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

From the invisible (non-baryonic) matter came the visible (baryonic) matter.

Colossians 1:

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.

All things visible, ordinary matter, and invisible dark matter hold together.

Berean Study Bible Job 10:

22 to a land of utter darkness, of deep shadow and disorder, where even the light is like darkness.”

Why can't humans see angels?

Angels are made of non-baryonic matter.

 

[AlexB23]

There are two kinds of matter particles in the universe. Some scientists think that ordinary matter comprises baryons, while dark matter is non-baryonic. Ordinary matter is visible to our eyes and mechanical sensors, while dark matter is invisible.

CERN:


While dark matter explains the hidden gravitational force that pulls a galaxy in place, a seemingly opposite anti-gravitational force pushes galaxies away from one another: dark energy.

NASA:


NASA:


Over the course of a human lifetime, the total amount of dark matter to pass through your body doesn't even add up to one gram.

Does the Bible mention dark matter?

I think so. Genesis 1:


Was this the invisible dark earth existing in the spiritual realm?


Watch the parallelism: darkness parallels Spirit of God.


Was the spiritual realm composed of dark matter and energy?


Then came ordinary matter and energy. The physical, visible universe began.


as if darkness was material like light.

Isaiah 45:


The invisible became visible, Hebrews 11:


From the invisible (non-baryonic) matter came the visible (baryonic) matter.

Colossians 1:


All things visible, ordinary matter, and invisible dark matter hold together.

Berean Study Bible Job 10:


Why can't humans see angels?

Angels are made of non-baryonic matter.

Bro, I am all for science, but we can not explain angels with science.

 

[Vambram]

Bro, I am all for science, but we can not explain angels with science.

I believe that angels and demons are spiritual beings whom can occasionally be granted the ability to take corporeal form.

 

[AlexB23]

@tonychanyt , look at this another way. God can not be put in a box, and is not confined to science, just because our physical world is confined to science. Why does everything have to be an algorithm to you, my friend?

 

[AlexB23]

I believe that angels and demons are spiritual beings whom can occasionally be granted the ability to take corporeal form.

Agreed, same here.

 

[Grip Docility]

There are two kinds of matter particles in the universe. Some scientists think that ordinary matter comprises baryons, while dark matter is non-baryonic. Ordinary matter is visible to our eyes and mechanical sensors, while dark matter is invisible.

CERN:


While dark matter explains the hidden gravitational force that pulls a galaxy in place, a seemingly opposite anti-gravitational force pushes galaxies away from one another: dark energy.

NASA:


NASA:


Over the course of a human lifetime, the total amount of dark matter to pass through your body doesn't even add up to one gram.

Does the Bible mention dark matter?

I think so. Genesis 1:


Was this the invisible dark earth existing in the spiritual realm?


Watch the parallelism: darkness parallels Spirit of God.


Was the spiritual realm composed of dark matter and energy?


Then came ordinary matter and energy. The physical, visible universe began.


as if darkness was material like light.

Isaiah 45:


The invisible became visible, Hebrews 11:


From the invisible (non-baryonic) matter came the visible (baryonic) matter.

Colossians 1:


All things visible, ordinary matter, and invisible dark matter hold together.

Berean Study Bible Job 10:


Why can't humans see angels?

Angels are made of non-baryonic matter.

Speculative Theology… that is filtered through a highly analytical mind!

That was a wonderful, refreshing, unique perspective of a read! This feels like I’m sitting around a campfire with friends that are on fire for Jesus… and you just fired off this amazing concept! It is reminiscent of how David constantly discusses pondering the ways of God!

Thank you for sharing this!

 

[tonychanyt]

@tonychanyt , look at this another way. God can not be put in a box, and is not confined to science,

Right.

just because our physical world is confined to science.

Not quite.

Why does everything have to be an algorithm to you, my friend?

No, not everything has to be an algorithm.

 

[AlexB23]

Right.

Not quite.

No, not everything has to be an algorithm.

Yeah, so may I ask why you want us to bet or place weights on the meanings of scripture, or take a scholarly/university approach to scripture? I do not want to gamble on the Bible.

 

[tonychanyt]

Yeah, so may I ask why you want us to bet or place weights on the meanings of scripture,

That's my last resort to stop the arguing on any particular issue.

or take a scholarly/university approach to scripture?

That's how my brain works. I do not insist on that approach to anyone.

I do not want to gamble on the Bible.

It is a formal wager of belief probability, not an impersonal lottery gamble.

 

[AlexB23]

That's my last resort to stop the arguing on any particular issue.


That's how my brain works. I do not insist on that approach to anyone.


It is a formal wager of belief probability, not an impersonal lottery gamble.

Well, betting is not how the Bible works. I can be analytical myself, but some things require nuance. Finally, a wager on belief does not sit right with me.

 

[tonychanyt]

Well, betting is not how the Bible works.

Right.

I can be analytical myself, but some things require nuance.

Right.

Finally, a wager on belief does not sit right with me.

That's how Actuarial Science works. It plays a role in how much you pay for your car insurance.

 

[AlexB23]

Right.

Right.

That's how Actuarial Science works. It plays a role in how much you pay for your car insurance.

Yeah, but the Bible is not an insurance plan. Jesus is our assurance, and it is free, bought by His blood.

 

[Mark Quayle]

Why can't humans see angels?

Angels are made of non-baryonic matter.

So when they do show, is it by gathering baryonic matter around themselves?

 

[tonychanyt]

Yeah, but the Bible is not an insurance plan.

Right.

Jesus is our assurance, and it is free, bought by His blood.

Right

 

[AlexB23]

Right.

Right

Yes, so if we both agree on that, let us not bet on the Bible anymore or treat Bible analysis as car or home insurance. This is why I have not been replying to your Bible studies as much, cos betting goes against my ethics.

 

[tonychanyt]

So when they do show, is it by gathering baryonic matter around themselves?

I think so. They project themselves from the spiritual 5th dimension to the 4-D space-time to interact with us.

 

[tonychanyt]

Yes, so if we both agree on that, let us not bet on the Bible anymore or treat Bible analysis as car or home insurance.

I do not treat the Biblical analysis as car insurance but I do bet on my beliefs to demonstrate how strong or weak a particular belief of mine is.

This is why I have not been replying to your Bible studies as much, cos betting goes against my ethics.

You don't have to agree to bet. It is up to you. I use the belief wagering as a last resort to stop an argument when nothing else works.

 

[AlexB23]

I do not treat the Biblical analysis as car insurance but I do bet on my beliefs to demonstrate how strong or weak a particular belief of mine is.


You don't have to agree to bet. It is up to you. I use the belief wagering as a last resort to stop an argument when nothing else works.

Well, not everything has to be quantified. It feels very robotic. If nothing else works, end the conversation. That is what I do. Hence, that is why I am not part of the flat-earth forums or on politics threads that often, cos nothing, no photos of our spheroid of a planet, or videos of the US Capitol three years ago, or scientific statistics about climate change and global warming can get through to some folks.

 

[Unqualified]

In other words it was created out of nothing. Dark matter and dark energy are only a theory to supply for a lack of understanding. Imagine that, no evidence of something invisible that can’t be tested. To explain something God did but in belief in God. Angels are spirit like God. God is holding it up. God carved the earth with his finger. But would I bet on it? I’d bet on the scriptures. But I’m not arguing the point. Just saying what I believe and pointing to God. There are so many voices in the world and all have signification, but only one is true and that is God.

 

[trophy33]

Dark matter and dark energy are only a theory to supply for a lack of understanding. Imagine that, no evidence of something invisible that can’t be tested.

Dark matter is matter in the universe that does not emit light. Astronomers know of its existence because its gravity curves the paths of visible stars and galaxies flying through space. What makes up dark matter is a mystery, but its effect is visible and measurable.